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Subject: IMO Bots are the only thing that will ruin Halo 3

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Ok Bots in Multiplayer is the worst idea I've read here so far.

1. Bots are extremely laggy in any game b/c they suck up so many resources.

2. Because they suck up so many resources, other elements of the game must be taken out. Wouldn't you rather higher quality maps/gameplay other than a bot?

3. Bots are so freakin easy to learn! I mean it will only be a month before we learn to trick the bots and make them easy to kill.

4. It's fun to be killed by players - people you know/ a real person- in my opinion it's really kinda empty to be killed by a bot.

So those of you who are begging for bots in Halo 3 just stop. It's a stupid idea that will screw up the game. Sorry, but I've played too many games with bots in multiplayer that sucked because of them.

Moderator Note: Please use this thread for Halo 3 bot discussions.

[Edited on 6/23/2006 by dmbfan09]

  • 06.22.2006 9:49 PM PDT

STOP EXPLODING YOU COWARDS!

bots are fun fore a week if even that they quickly get boring to easy to trick to stupid or to downright repetitive, bots suck

  • 06.22.2006 9:52 PM PDT
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i think the ranks should b hidden. cuz it'd make pointless 2 cheat. visible ranks will ruin halo3 like it did 2

  • 06.22.2006 9:53 PM PDT

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Bots wouldn't really ruin it that much their just good practice it's nothing that woudl ruin gameplay for me at least.

  • 06.22.2006 10:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: peglegfury
i think the ranks should b hidden. cuz it'd make pointless 2 cheat. visible ranks will ruin halo3 like it did 2


Dude, i am sorry but your way wrong. Ranks make it fun to play. If it wasnt for ranks Halo 2 Multiplayer would have died off a long time ago. I really hope they bring back the leader boards for H3 and find a way to stop cheaters.

  • 06.22.2006 10:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: Çäspër
Ok Bots in Multiplayer is the worst idea I've read here so far.

1. Bots are extremely laggy in any game b/c they suck up so many resources.

2. Because they suck up so many resources, other elements of the game must be taken out. Wouldn't you rather higher quality maps/gameplay other than a bot?

3. Bots are so freakin easy to learn! I mean it will only be a month before we learn to trick the bots and make them easy to kill.

4. It's fun to be killed by players - people you know/ a real person- in my opinion it's really kinda empty to be killed by a bot.

So those of you who are begging for bots in Halo 3 just stop. It's a stupid idea that will screw up the game. Sorry, but I've played too many games with bots in multiplayer that sucked because of them.


have you played perfect dark 64?? they have crazy fun bots..

"dark sim" < a REAL challenge..
"rocket sim"< only kills you with rockets or explosives
"crazed sim"< will stop at NOTHING to kill you.
"peace sim"< he doesnt really do anything but hes fun to kill
"judge sim"< only goes for the player with the hieghest score

Of course they have more and generical ones as well such as "normal sim" and "easy sim", but those are the only ones i remember it has been a long time.

And if Nintendo 64 could handle i think, correct me if im wrong 14 bots without lag.. Im sure the Xbox 360 could handle 16 without a problem.. And yes i think bots online would be stupid. im talking about when theyre configuring files and you only wanna play multiplayer or when you make a map (hopefully) and want to test it out late at night but no one is around.
That would be fun...

Actually i think im going to find my N64 and play perfect dark..... too bad the controls are worth ....... now that i found the joys of dual analog sticks.

[Edited on 6/23/2006]

  • 06.23.2006 1:30 AM PDT
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I think what most people mean by bots is that they want them in multiplayer offline, not on Live. Live is for real people. Bots are for screwing around when your with friends or stuff like that. Bots wouldnt create lag because they arent using any type of internet. And like the guy said, if the 64 could handle it, I'm sure the 360 can.

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  • 06.23.2006 1:49 AM PDT
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I think it would be a decent filler for bots to be enabled. If Bungie ever decided to put them in (VERY Unlikely), I'd certainly vouch that they only be included in split screen/LAN. Maybe unranked too?

But bots sounds fun for someone who wants to practice on multi, by his/herself. But then again, that wouldn't be much different than campaign.

Still. Its something to think about, but in the end, I don't think that bots belong in Halo3.

Self contradiction, anyone? >_< (I can't decide)

[Edited on 6/23/2006]

  • 06.23.2006 1:55 AM PDT
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Think about the people without Live, don't be so selfish. It'd be good for those poor souls who're missing out on the Holy Grail of Online Gaming...

  • 06.23.2006 2:11 AM PDT
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Mindless bots running around a map shotting everything would be boring yes, but I think putting bots in Halo 3 would be a very good Idea. Think about it, Bungie hinted in having a map making function, I could think of so many uses for bots in a custom map so me and my friends could try to brake into a covenant filled base the size of a containment base with many enemies to kill. Having a campaign style playlist would need bots too, or at least and AI like single player. I hope there are bots for those without online abilitys, also its not like they have to be turned on during a ranked Team Slayer game. Just my Ideas

  • 06.23.2006 2:16 AM PDT

Posted by: Çäspër
Ok Bots in Multiplayer is the worst idea I've read here so far.

1. Bots are extremely laggy in any game b/c they suck up so many resources.

Try not just inventing things. Exactly what is going to 'lag'? Do you even know what you are talking about?

2. Because they suck up so many resources, other elements of the game must be taken out. Wouldn't you rather higher quality maps/gameplay other than a bot?

Again, you pulled that out of the air - that they suck up so many resources. Funny, I noticed a hell of a lot of them in campaign, didn't you?

3. Bots are so freakin easy to learn! I mean it will only be a month before we learn to trick the bots and make them easy to kill.

So what? They're not there to outsmart you. They are there for target practice, and to help you learn the game. Tricking them won't matter when they can 3-shot you on sight.

4. It's fun to be killed by players - people you know/ a real person- in my opinion it's really kinda empty to be killed by a bot.

And in what universe do you think bots are intended to replace human players? It's 'kinda empty' trying to play multiplayer without xbox live or enough people.

So those of you who are begging for bots in Halo 3 just stop. It's a stupid idea that will screw up the game. Sorry, but I've played too many games with bots in multiplayer that sucked because of them.

No multiplayer game which had bots sucked because it had bots, sorry. I've got no idea what you're trying to prove here.

There is one argument against bots and one alone - any time they spend on bots, is time they don't spend on the other aspects of the game. Which is a good enough argument by itself, there's no need to talk a lot of bollocks to support it. But if they want to put bots in, offline players would be happier.

  • 06.23.2006 2:35 AM PDT
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Yeh No bots!!! Bots are always too easy, or like too hard that they arnt fun anyway...Look at PDZ for example... so stupid...why? BOTS! thats why everyone is back to playing Halo 2 after like a week...

  • 06.23.2006 3:19 AM PDT
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What I don't understand is why people are saying that bots should be put in because some people don't have xbox live and lan parties can be hard to arrange. Do they really think that fighting bots will be any better? It would be you verses the bots, which if anyone hadn't noticed is the campaign. That’s right, the campaign is there so you don't need xbox live to play halo, multiplayer is for people who have xbox live or are having a lan party/friends over. Bots would be lame, if you want bots play the campaign.

  • 06.23.2006 3:25 AM PDT

Posted by: TheLaughingManic
That’s right, the campaign is there so you don't need xbox live to play halo, multiplayer is for people who have xbox live or are having a lan party/friends over. Bots would be lame, if you want bots play the campaign.


Why are you telling the people who would have a use for bots that they don't need them, when you are not in their position?

  • 06.23.2006 3:36 AM PDT
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For comments that suggest it would consume man-power, this is Microsoft we're talking about here. If they thought they could shift another 100,000 units by including bots or a map editor, they'd just hire the staff to do it becuase they would cost a tiny percentage of the potential profit. So I do not think time and man-power is a justified enough argument.

One thing that really makes me feel a bit sick, is the fact that the 360 is so 'live-centric'. The real problem I had with Halo 2 is that is discarded the single player mode in favour of the live experience, when it was the SP in Halo CE that really made me fall for the game (figuratively speaking ;).

I can't help but feel that Halo 3 is going the same way - if not MORE so. Microsoft will want to push the online thing to the MAX, so I can easily see Bungie getting swept up with that instead of giving those who don't want to play multplayer, an enjoyable, lengthy and satisfying one player game.

I find that incredibly sad.

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  • 06.23.2006 3:46 AM PDT
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That was a laugh...yet another person who either cant kill a bot or thinks that playing againced bots will mess up there gamer score, making a stupid thread. Congrats.

Takes away from resourses? When was the last time you played a game with bots, ten years ago? And what game may I ask, lagged up because you were playing with bots?

The xbox could handle 8 bots running around, with no lag. In meny games you could set the difficulty of those bots by making them better shooters, stronger, faster etc etc.

Games like Red Fraction 2 and 007 Night Fire utilized these aspects and totaly pulled off a decent playing MP game with bots. Did these bots jump? No. Did they get stuck sometimes, sure...but for the most part, they did what they were supposed to and went for the flag or hunted you down. You could make it as challenging as you wanted.

I would have to say if the mighty 360 cant handle a few AI's running around then prehaps were moving in the wrong direction. MS has to reconize this when at this time only 10%-15% of its gamers are connected to Live...who are the "other" 90% of gamers going to play againced? Think about whats practical, not just whats best for you. If you dont like them, you dont have to play with them.

So quit whining, take some deep breaths, and remember Bungie hasnt put bots in there last two games, either they cant, or they dont have the time, so stop complaining about something that most likly wont happen anyways. Just because it is a good idea...doesnt mean it will fly, so go sit down.

  • 06.23.2006 3:48 AM PDT
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I assume Bungie will re-use their great MM system, maybe tweek it for the better.

And i agree in some way, bots in any competive MP matches is stupid, so keep the OUT of MM.
But bots could be fun for custom games, just for screwing around with, i just don't think they would be worth enough implementing. I gues it takes a lot of importent time from Bugie.

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  • 06.23.2006 3:54 AM PDT

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If Bots are featured in Halo3 then ideally they would be for unranked games (and whatever that entails) only.

  • 06.23.2006 4:24 AM PDT
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The Bot Idea is simply because people like me do not have chance to get Live nor do I can gather people for Lan as I am only one with Xbox here.

Oh, you mean that I should take my Xbox and run across the country to the next city where my pals live, some hundred miles everytime I want to play multiplayer maps? That's what you ment to say?

Like people said before, if N64 could handle the Bots, that were really fun to play, then I am sure Bungie can make game that 360 can handle.

  • 06.23.2006 4:26 AM PDT