Halo 3 Forum
This topic has moved here: Subject: the AR takes no skill
  • Subject: the AR takes no skill
Subject: the AR takes no skill
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Instead of making the carbine like the battle rifle, keep both the BR and carbine the same, and keep them both in halo 3, and have the AR like the halo ce version, but more accurate
so the reticle about half the size on the SMG/AR but bigger then the pistol/carbine/BR
like in the middle.
I don't want the battle rifle to leave.

  • 06.23.2006 6:45 PM PDT

(10:19:49 PM) Scruss: oh and pezza, i saw what you did to that cat
(10:20:17 PM) Pezza: You were the one with the video camera breathing heavily. Of course you saw.

The Battle Rifle takes somewhat more skill then the Pistol, but since there is quite a bit of Auto aim they are almost at the same skill level.

Posted by: Invalid
prophate! I hope you dont mind, but I added what you said to my Sig.
"So please, for the sake of humanity.. the next time you have a thought... kill yourslef."
classic!


laugh out loud! That really is a funny quote.

[Edited on 6/23/2006]

  • 06.23.2006 6:46 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

lol, the quote is free to use.

Bungie needs to take the auto-aim feature off or make it optional. Let the people with reall skill shine. I can't count how many times I've missed a shot because the retical jumped just a little to far.

  • 06.23.2006 6:54 PM PDT

HHDDVVDDBVD 692 others

OK, yes, it is very true that I'm a dumb ass. I'm not denying that. However, isn't the whole point of a beta to increase the amount of users until you get someone dumb enough to try something you haven't anticipated.
Johnrap - Unofficial Dumbass of Halo 3 Beta

pistol tsk? what? no skill?

  • 06.23.2006 7:05 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: Robert 90
people who talk about how much better Halo CE was than Halo 2 are RETARDS. The only reason that they seem to hate Halo 2 so much is because it takes alot more skill than Halo CE. They could get kills in Halo CE but now that the amount of skill required has gone up they suck so in their minds this means that Halo 2 sucks.
Care to explain how Halo 2 takes more skill? Care to NOT generalize and call Halo 1 fans "retards"?


The AR = no skill Let me repeat the AR = NO SKILL!!!!!!!!!!Hmm...lemme counter this...How does it not take skill? I mean come on--if anything, it was underpowered. It was only used in close range. At long range, the bullets spread outward too much so it could never hit the target. Furthermore, the bullets spread more and more depending on how long you held down the trigger.


It was nothing but an overpowered SMGIf you think it's overpowered, "you obviously suck."


The BR is a weapon that emphsises precision and accuracy. If you can't 4-shot someone than you suck at Halo 2.Whoa. Big self-contradiction there. first you say that it is very precise, then you said that if you can't aim, then you suck at Halo 2? Wow! Such a big dose of hypocrisy in a single sentence!


So all I am saying is that if Bungie brings back the AR they need to make the Carbine alot more like the BR. by this I mean it needs to do away with the circle reticle and have a reticle that allows you to shoot like you do with the BR accuratly and quickly. And make it so you can effectivly 4-shot people with it.The carbine was already the most balanced Halo 2 weapon. No need to change it now; if you cannot use the carbine the way it is in Halo 2, then "you suck at Halo 2."

  • 06.23.2006 7:06 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: prophate

I never said it was. I think it's more fun, but the fact is.. you complain about two weapons that are completly different. The AR is an SMG. The BR is a RIFLE. See the difference?


I thought the AR was the Assault Rifle ?
and not the Assault Machine Gun.

I guess i didnt pay attention....

  • 06.23.2006 7:12 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

I just like the AR because it makes a great, powerful sounding noise when you fire. And it looks great, is strong, and even has a compass on it!

Oh, and if you're going to compare weapons, compare The AR and SMG, and the BR and pistol. They're more alike, and achieve a similar purpose. AR and AMG for close range blasting, and BR and pistol for mid range shooting.

[Edited on 6/23/2006]

  • 06.23.2006 7:12 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: Robert 90
people who talk about how much better Halo CE was than Halo 2 are RETARDS. The only reason that they seem to hate Halo 2 so much is because it takes alot more skill than Halo CE. They could get kills in Halo CE but now that the amount of skill required has gone up they suck so in their minds this means that Halo 2 sucks.

The AR = no skill Let me repeat the AR = NO SKILL!!!!!!!!!!

It was nothing but an overpowered SMG

The BR is a weapon that emphsises precision and accuracy. If you can't 4-shot someone than you suck at Halo 2.

So all I am saying is that if Bungie brings back the AR they need to make the Carbine alot more like the BR. by this I mean it needs to do away with the circle reticle and have a reticle that allows you to shoot like you do with the BR accuratly and quickly. And make it so you can effectivly 4-shot people with it.


Robert, you eat hairy Walrus ASS!, if you didn't have auto-aim you would be dead, and also, what the holy hell are you basing this on, why do you assume people who hate Halo 2 dislike it because of the BR, I dislike Halo 2 because of the extremely short single player, changing of the pistol to a magnum, and the delusioned prepubescent teens and older teens who act like them such as yourself, YOU RUINED Halo 2 with your negative attitude, Don't Ruin Halo 3

  • 06.23.2006 7:13 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

its time to shut up and let go!

  • 06.23.2006 7:13 PM PDT

Thats a spot of luck!

Be serious about Big Team Battle!!!!

R.I.P Chandra
R.I.P Jace

Yes it takes skill to play and be good at a video game......no it takes practice to play and be good at a video game.

  • 06.23.2006 7:16 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: JTisaBeEg
Posted by: prophate

I never said it was. I think it's more fun, but the fact is.. you complain about two weapons that are completly different. The AR is an SMG. The BR is a RIFLE. See the difference?


I thought the AR was the Assault Rifle ?
and not the Assault Machine Gun.

I guess i didnt pay attention....


You worry too much about the name, and disregard what it actually does. So, whom didn't pay attension? You can call a turd flinger a rifle, but it dosn't exactly behave like that now does it?


--==EDIT==--

Posted by: scarab08
Robert, you eat hairy Walrus ASS!


OMFG, ROTFLMMFAO.. Ouch! It hurts.. LMAO... *falls out of chair*

[Edited on 6/23/2006]

  • 06.23.2006 7:17 PM PDT

Popular Fusion
►An Army Of One◄
Anything Halo

][=][ //-\\ ][_ [[ ]]

GT: Little playa157

Please stops with pointless threads like this.

  • 06.23.2006 7:19 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: prophate
Posted by: JTisaBeEg
Posted by: prophate

I never said it was. I think it's more fun, but the fact is.. you complain about two weapons that are completly different. The AR is an SMG. The BR is a RIFLE. See the difference?


I thought the AR was the Assault Rifle ?
and not the Assault Machine Gun.

I guess i didnt pay attention....


You worry too much about the name, and disregard what it actually does. So, whom didn't pay attension? You can call a turd flinger a rifle, but it dosn't exactly behave like that now does it?


I guess i just considered it a rifle because of the name and because it seems to be used to assault people with a Hail of bullets. Just like how you do battle with a Battle Rifle. And How you needle someone with the Needler. And How you Shot someone with a Shotgun.

  • 06.23.2006 7:20 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

everything in halo, weapons, vehicles, and stratedgys take skill, how much depends on the situation. To say that the SMG takes no skill, and the BR takes alot of skill is just ignorant. And it is kinda stupid to say that when halo 2 has auto-aim (lol). well thats my two cents and "So please, for the sake of humanity.. the next time you have a thought... kill yourslef."

  • 06.23.2006 7:21 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: JTisaBeEg
Posted by: prophate
Posted by: JTisaBeEg
Posted by: prophate

I never said it was. I think it's more fun, but the fact is.. you complain about two weapons that are completly different. The AR is an SMG. The BR is a RIFLE. See the difference?


I thought the AR was the Assault Rifle ?
and not the Assault Machine Gun.

I guess i didnt pay attention....


You worry too much about the name, and disregard what it actually does. So, whom didn't pay attension? You can call a turd flinger a rifle, but it dosn't exactly behave like that now does it?


I guess i just considered it a rifle because of the name and because it seems to be used to assault people with a Hail of bullets. Just like how you do battle with a Battle Rifle. And How you needle someone with the Needler. And How you Shot someone with a Shotgun.


Needle them? Are you kidding me? You assault with any weapon. You battle with any weapon. You shot with any weapon. You don't brute peole with a brute shot. You don't plasma somebody with a plasma pistol.

  • 06.23.2006 7:23 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: NDS FireNinja
everything in halo, weapons, vehicles, and stratedgys take skill, how much depends on the situation. To say that the SMG takes no skill, and the BR takes alot of skill is just ignorant. And it is kinda stupid to say that when halo 2 has auto-aim (lol). well thats my two cents and "So please, for the sake of humanity.. the next time you have a thought... kill yourslef."


yourslef...lol

  • 06.23.2006 7:24 PM PDT

Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts, absolutely.

Posted by: Robert 90
people who talk about how much better Halo CE was than Halo 2 are RETARDS. The only reason that they seem to hate Halo 2 so much is because it takes alot more skill than Halo CE. They could get kills in Halo CE but now that the amount of skill required has gone up they suck so in their minds this means that Halo 2 sucks.

The AR = no skill Let me repeat the AR = NO SKILL!!!!!!!!!!

It was nothing but an overpowered SMG

The BR is a weapon that emphsises precision and accuracy. If you can't 4-shot someone than you suck at Halo 2.

So all I am saying is that if Bungie brings back the AR they need to make the Carbine alot more like the BR. by this I mean it needs to do away with the circle reticle and have a reticle that allows you to shoot like you do with the BR accuratly and quickly. And make it so you can effectivly 4-shot people with it.


I think you are the retard. True, Halo 2 was better MULTIPLAYER-WISE than Halo: CE. BUT; Halo: CE was better than Halo 2 campaign-wise.

If you can't 4-shot, it does not mean that you suck at Halo 2; it just means you are nto a pro and you have a life, and you play for fun.

The Assault Rifle actually does take skill. You could use the old-fashioned spray-and-pray method, OR you can shoot it in bursts and make it hit pretty accurately (like I do with it).I think you are bashing the AR because you couldn't whore it and you suck with it.

By the way, Halo:CE takes a lot more skill than Halo 2 does.

Get a life.

  • 06.23.2006 7:24 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: b00m_headshot
Please stops with pointless threads like this.


OMMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SAY THAT TO THE WHOLE DAMN HALO 3 FORUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 06.23.2006 7:25 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: NDS FireNinja
everything in halo, weapons, vehicles, and stratedgys take skill, how much depends on the situation. To say that the SMG takes no skill, and the BR takes alot of skill is just ignorant. And it is kinda stupid to say that when halo 2 has auto-aim (lol). well thats my two cents and "So please, for the sake of humanity.. the next time you have a thought... kill yourslef."

yourslef...lol


I was quoting someone else in this thread.

  • 06.23.2006 7:26 PM PDT

Hail to the Victors! Reppin' that MAIZE n BLUE!!!
Perfect Grenade
Chill bro. Gotta get my bowl.

Halo 1 had the pistol, which took more skill than the BR. So your arguement just went out the window.

People like the AR because it looks more futuristic, not to mention it's big and loud and powerful. You feel like such a badass using it when mowing down lines of Covenant.

  • 06.23.2006 7:27 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: NDS FireNinja
Posted by: NDS FireNinja
everything in halo, weapons, vehicles, and stratedgys take skill, how much depends on the situation. To say that the SMG takes no skill, and the BR takes alot of skill is just ignorant. And it is kinda stupid to say that when halo 2 has auto-aim (lol). well thats my two cents and "So please, for the sake of humanity.. the next time you have a thought... kill yourslef."

yourslef...lol


I was quoting someone else in this thread.


I knew somthing was wrong with that... lol
I just couldn't figure out what it was.

[Edited on 6/23/2006]

  • 06.23.2006 7:30 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: major_gamer
Halo 1 had the pistol, which took more skill than the BR. So your arguement just went out the window.

People like the AR because it looks more futuristic, not to mention it's big and loud and powerful. You feel like such a badass using it when mowing down lines of Covenant.


That is exactly how I feel :)

  • 06.23.2006 7:31 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: Sniper777
Posted by: major_gamer
Halo 1 had the pistol, which took more skill than the BR. So your arguement just went out the window.

People like the AR because it looks more futuristic, not to mention it's big and loud and powerful. You feel like such a badass using it when mowing down lines of Covenant.


That is exactly how I feel :)


Now that I think about it.. I did to. Charging an elite screaming "DIE!!"

  • 06.23.2006 7:37 PM PDT