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Subject: the AR takes no skill
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Posted by: Robert 90
people who talk about how much better Halo CE was than Halo 2 are RETARDS. The only reason that they seem to hate Halo 2 so much is because it takes alot more skill than Halo CE. They could get kills in Halo CE but now that the amount of skill required has gone up they suck so in their minds this means that Halo 2 sucks.

The AR = no skill Let me repeat the AR = NO SKILL!!!!!!!!!!

It was nothing but an overpowered SMG

The BR is a weapon that emphsises precision and accuracy. If you can't 4-shot someone than you suck at Halo 2.

So all I am saying is that if Bungie brings back the AR they need to make the Carbine alot more like the BR. by this I mean it needs to do away with the circle reticle and have a reticle that allows you to shoot like you do with the BR accuratly and quickly. And make it so you can effectivly 4-shot people with it.


He looks at the post and realises what a toss this guy is.

Mate Halo CE took more skill than it did to finish Halo 2, so what are you talking about. The AR is easy to shoot with and so is the BR, SMG and the pistol plus the shotgun and so on , the only weapon that takes skill is the sniper rifle; you are obviously high. If you think about it though it did take some common sense to use the AR because of it's inaccuracy, so you had to burst shoot with it when shooting from a distance kind of like the SMG which is a crappy weapon that looks like plastic and sounds like plastic. The BR is as easy to use as it is the AR, Shotgun, Pistol and so on except the two sniper rifles so stop saying that it takes more skill to use the BR and that the AR is a crappy weapon because if it does end up being in Halo 3 it most deffinitely won't be a crappy weapon.

He says to himself "it seems that people who are high like to complain".

  • 06.23.2006 11:26 PM PDT
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i suppose that since the AR has been pretty much officially confirmed, we can expect it to be the new "standard" weapon? .......hmmmm, everyone getting an AR start on the objective based games i love so much could prove to be a real challenge......personally, i just dont want a gun that can hite me from across the level smg style LoL

hopefully bungie will find a way to balance it. .....they havent failed us before :-)

  • 06.23.2006 11:31 PM PDT
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Just let Bungie make their game. Halo:CE was awesome. Halo 2 was also awesome. If you quit your -blam!-ing and let Bungie make their game maybe, just MAYBE, Halo 3 will also be awesome.

And Robert, if you are going to compare weapns, compare weapons that are in any plausible way similar.

[Edited on 6/24/2006]

  • 06.24.2006 12:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: I KILL GRUNTS
Kinda like...the pistol? Except the pistol had less autoaim..and it didn't fire burst,so headshots were harder.


but in the 3 seconds it takes to fire 4 shots from the BR you could get off 9 shots with the pistol making it not very hard to kill people auto-aim or not

so in the 3 seconds it takes to kill someone with the BR you could kill 3 people with the pistol. but as you said no auto aim and if you were too far to kill just one person you could get 9 shots at that person and only 3 have to hit there head. making it not very hard to kill people with.

  • 06.24.2006 12:22 AM PDT
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Posted by: Ch3miCal
Posted by: I KILL GRUNTS
Kinda like...the pistol? Except the pistol had less autoaim..and it didn't fire burst,so headshots were harder.


but in the 3 seconds it takes to fire 4 shots from the BR you could get off 9 shots with the pistol making it not very hard to kill people auto-aim or not

so in the 3 seconds it takes to kill someone with the BR you could kill 3 people with the pistol. but as you said no auto aim and if you were too far to kill just one person you could get 9 shots at that person and only 3 have to hit there head. making it not very hard to kill people with.


You exagerate the RoF, and under-estimate the assistance of auto aim. It was very difficult to three shot.

  • 06.24.2006 12:35 AM PDT

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You know why the two games are so much different?

...ALL guns (and vehicles) were nerfed..severe auto aim was added to most guns..some weapons are only good while dual wielded now.

I underlined the point. Introducing dual wielding to Halo 2 is what made the game take less skill (sure, I enjoy playing it more than Halo CE's because it's easier and more laid back) but that doesn't change the fact that there was a much easier way to implement dual wielding...while keeping the game simple, balanced, and more skillful.

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There is no doubt that dual wielding is a cool new feature to the Haloverse, but it is a seriously flawed system that Bungie can fix in Halo 3..

Every single weapon and Vehicle has been weakened due to the dual wielding feature that was introduced..why? I don't know, but there was an easier option.

All single-handed weapons should be stronger, so that they are useful on their own, and don't need a dual wield counterpart to be effective (compare the Halo plasma Rifle with the Halo 2 Plasma Rifle)

The way to fix this is to make dual wielded weapons less accurate (it makes sense - you are holding it with one hand instead of two now..and it has no stock extended) and make the player reload both weapons seperately, rather than at the same time...

(How do we rub our thighs with our SMG-Magnum combo, and it automatically reloads?)

This would make dual wielding take skill, be balanced, and everything won't need to be severely weakened to utilize this feature.


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  • 06.24.2006 12:42 AM PDT
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This is exacty what I would expect from someone new to the community. It is my guess that you just started play Halo 2? It also sounds like you never played Halo1 competitivly or with any compition whatsoever. Experiences you have owning your little brother or sister as they stand still with the AR does NOT mean you are good.

If you were around in 2003 following AGP tournements with the old school teams you would have developed a passion for H1 like so many of us have. TDT, StK, PS molded the competitive FPS scene forever. Before you start bashing H1, go find some old gameplay vids. There you will see what true skill is. You don't have it.

Have a nice day -blam!-tard.

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  • 06.24.2006 12:56 AM PDT
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Posted by: Invalid
...No...
People dislike halo 2 because it's single player was too short. mutiplayer kicks ass though

Where is your information coming from? Halo 2's campaign was 2 levels longer than Halo CE.

  • 06.24.2006 1:16 AM PDT
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Posted by: ToXSicK II
This is exacty what I would expect from someone new to the community. It is my guess that you just started play Halo 2? It also sounds like you never played Halo1 competitivly or with any compition whatsoever. Experiences you have owning your little brother or sister as they stand still with the AR does NOT mean you are good.

If you were around in 2003 following AGP tournements with the old school teams you would have developed a passion for H1 like so many of us have. TDT, StK, PS molded the competitive FPS scene forever. Before you start bashing H1, go find some old gameplay vids. There you will see what true skill is. You don't have it.

Have a nice day -blam!-tard.

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Anything to say Robert?

  • 06.24.2006 1:18 AM PDT
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i think your retarded ... very retarded. how could you say the ar takes no skill? maby YOU suck with the ar. did you ever think of that... RETARD?!

  • 06.24.2006 1:37 AM PDT
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The Assault Rifle is the Shiz Knit. It's Awesome. I wouldn't die if they didnt put it in Halo3, But I would die if they put the Battle Rifle in Halo3. The Assault Rifle did indeed take skill, You just are a BR whore, That all. Then yes, Your right, I would be an Assault Rifle whore, And I'm proud of that.

Your an idiot D:

  • 06.24.2006 1:41 AM PDT
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Battlerifle sucked,-blam!- it.
sucks against flood...

  • 06.24.2006 1:46 AM PDT
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Posted by: GoAtBoYz
Who knows? They may have both the AR and the BR>


I realy realy realy hope so,,,

  • 06.24.2006 1:47 AM PDT
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Posted by: M4tthijS
Posted by: GoAtBoYz
Who knows? They may have both the AR and the BR>


I realy realy realy hope so,,,


Have fun with BR against flood and drones.

  • 06.24.2006 1:48 AM PDT
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i will

  • 06.24.2006 1:53 AM PDT
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Lol... I find it funny you talk about skill, and ask to change the carbine. It was a good weapon and was a head shot only kinda thing. If you couldent use it... HA.

As for the AR then, lets put it this way, the smg was an annoying pop gun, and the AR was a reliable weapon with some feel to it. Plus it didnt take a million bullets to down a grunt... It was the ultimate underling mower.

  • 06.24.2006 2:16 AM PDT
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Anybody who is skilled enough can take someone down who is using an ar with any old weapon its a bullet hose not accurate weapon people just like it cause it was cool and it felt powerful.

  • 06.24.2006 2:31 AM PDT

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AR took skill, at least on Legendary it did. In fact it took so much skill that I avoided it at all costs... it couldnt kill flood, it couldnt kill elites. It had short range. Even though it is one of my favourite Halo weapons it was the least useful gun in Halo:CE.

All bark, no bite.

But man..... that bark sounded good!

  • 06.24.2006 2:48 AM PDT
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If you haven't all noticed, Robert left some time ago.

But please, dont let me halt your mindless rantings.

  • 06.24.2006 3:17 AM PDT

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meh...not many people used the long range ability of the AR...tap tap taparoo...it could shoot quite a ways...you just had to be ammo smart...not a gun sprayin foo...

besides the new AR is updated...not the same as the last...

which means (i hope) its a combo of the BR and H1 Ar. Burst fire and Auto fire option...that way it keeps it accurate but ammo conservative but also deadly in close range...

  • 06.24.2006 3:22 AM PDT
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Posted by: Invalid
...No...
People dislike halo 2 because it's single player was too short. mutiplayer kicks ass though

Where is your information coming from? Halo 2's campaign was 2 levels longer than Halo CE.

There's a difference between the number of levels and actual playtime.

  • 06.24.2006 4:08 AM PDT
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Posted by: Kilwan
If you haven't all noticed, Robert left some time ago.

But please, dont let me halt your mindless rantings.


lol, halt the ranting? I'm suprised this topic staied on the first page, or even unlocked. Hopefully Robert took my advice from my origional post.

  • 06.24.2006 4:23 AM PDT