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the br did not replace the ar the br replaced the pistol and the smg replaced the ar and the reason people say h2 sux is because there is an increased amount of auto aim but thats only because u need it to have all the br rounds in 1 burst connect also because h2 is more team based than h1. in h2 u need a team or ur not going anywhere trust me this is all true

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Posted by: Ch3miCal
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Kinda like...the pistol? Except the pistol had less autoaim..and it didn't fire burst,so headshots were harder.


but in the 3 seconds it takes to fire 4 shots from the BR you could get off 9 shots with the pistol making it not very hard to kill people auto-aim or not

so in the 3 seconds it takes to kill someone with the BR you could kill 3 people with the pistol. but as you said no auto aim and if you were too far to kill just one person you could get 9 shots at that person and only 3 have to hit there head. making it not very hard to kill people with.

You people way overestimate the rate of fire of the pistol,in 3 second you could probably only get off 4-5 shots with the pistol,not 9.

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Kinda like...the pistol? Except the pistol had less autoaim..and it didn't fire burst,so headshots were harder.


but in the 3 seconds it takes to fire 4 shots from the BR you could get off 9 shots with the pistol making it not very hard to kill people auto-aim or not

so in the 3 seconds it takes to kill someone with the BR you could kill 3 people with the pistol. but as you said no auto aim and if you were too far to kill just one person you could get 9 shots at that person and only 3 have to hit there head. making it not very hard to kill people with.

You people way overestimate the rate of fire of the pistol,in 3 second you could probably only get off 4-5 shots with the pistol,not 9.


I think most of these people have never even played Halo CE. I remember, at least more than a year ago, some guy made a thread about why the Halo CE pistol was over powered. I could tell by the things he said that he didn't have much experience with Halo CE. I put pressure on him until he finally admitted he had only played the game about 40 minutes at a LAN party. 40 MINUTES!!!! And here he was flaming the old pistol.

These are the same people that got the darn thing nerfed in the first place. They hardly played the game, and they come on here repeating what they've seen others saying....Bungie sees it and nerfs it assuming these are people that accually played the game. That's like as if I never played Counter Strike, but hung out in their forums complaining about a certain weapon. They end up nerfing the said weapon on the next version. Only problem is all the people that play the game day to day and love said weapon had no voice because they were busy playing the game. So their favorite weapon just got nerfed by some guy that never even plays.

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So in short, you're saying that everybody who hates halo 2 sucks, because they suck, so that they suck and have no skill and suck so bad they shouldn't play halo 2 because they suck and halo 1 sucks and you are way too cool for everyone.

Ok. Bye.

You are saying halo 1 had no precision? Ever heard of the pistol? now that requires precision. What about Halo 1's non-auto tracking sniper? That requires far more precision than halo 2's.

Nothing against either game, but you can't say a game is easier or harder if you are talking about the multiplayer. That's just stupid.

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Posted by: Robert 90
Instead of critisising me why don't you explain why the AR is so great. I don't think that I have ever heard anything other than "the AR is so much better." So why don't you explain this to me.


Ok, first I'll tell you why the AR is so great. While wielding the Assault Rifle, you could carry 660 rounds max. Even with three SMG's you can only get 60 more than that.

Now I'll criticize you, you have gotten no support whatsoever in the duration of this thread.

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Posted by: XionDragonLord
the br did not replace the ar the br replaced the pistol and the smg replaced the ar and the reason people say h2 sux is because there is an increased amount of auto aim but thats only because u need it to have all the br rounds in 1 burst connect also because h2 is more team based than h1. in h2 u need a team or ur not going anywhere trust me this is all true


Exactly on the auto aim part. Another reason is that the campaign in Halo: Combat Evoled was more entertaining and kept you playing as the Master Chief all the way through.

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the br did not replace the ar the br replaced the pistol and the smg replaced the ar and the reason people say h2 sux is because there is an increased amount of auto aim but thats only because u need it to have all the br rounds in 1 burst connect also because h2 is more team based than h1. in h2 u need a team or ur not going anywhere trust me this is all true


Exactly on the auto aim part. Another reason is that the campaign in Halo: Combat Evoled was more entertaining and kept you playing as the Master Chief all the way through.


Why do people hate the Arbiter? He opened up interesting story possibilities, you get Active Camo, And get Elites, Jackals, and even Grunts as allies!

The Chief gets Marines and a flashlight.

I rest my case.

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Where and/or how do you get Action Replays? I want to mod my single player campaign mode.....

  • 06.24.2006 11:05 AM PDT

Posted by: Robert 90
Yeah and a Pistol taking out a guy with a rifle makes perfect sense. If Bungie brings back the Halo CE pistol I will be dissapointed to say the least.


Awww...Well im pretty sure that me, and 99.9% of the halo community dont give a -blam!- if your dissapointed...Sorry :)

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Crumbs...

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Posted by: BMW
Where and/or how do you get Action Replays? I want to mod my single player campaign mode.....

I got one at Target.

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WOW @ starter of this thread.. anyone who says H2 takes more skill than HCE is a complete moron or kid who never played CE at all or competatively. I guess in your book 4 shotting with a BR takes more skill than 3 shotting with a pistol.. controlling the Assault Rifle's spray was a lot more difficult than people comprehend.. obviously you sucked at halo 1

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Posted by: Anthracks
WOW @ starter of this thread.. anyone who says H2 takes more skill than HCE is a complete moron or kid who never played CE at all or competatively. I guess in your book 4 shotting with a BR takes more skill than 3 shotting with a pistol.. controlling the Assault Rifle's spray was a lot more difficult than people comprehend.. obviously you sucked at halo 1


Cut the kid some slack...
He probably bought H2 first(who does that) then thought Halo was just as good only to be disapointed by the "gameplay".

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Posted by: GoAtBoYz
Who knows? They may have both the AR and the BR>


I would love that.

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You notice the retard who started this thread joined this forum 3 days ago? And hes telling people whove been here since halo 1 that the AR takes no skill?

IT DOSENT TAKE "SKILL" FOR ANY WEAPON, YOU PRESS THE BUTTON AND IT GOES, NO SKILL INVOLVED THEIR...

^caps for dumbyies

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Posted by: Choas Knight X
You notice the retard who started this thread joined this forum 3 days ago? And hes telling people whove been here since halo 1 that the AR takes no skill?

IT DOSENT TAKE "SKILL" FOR ANY WEAPON, YOU PRESS THE BUTTON AND IT GOES, NO SKILL INVOLVED THEIR...

^caps for dumbyies


Well no crap it doesn't take skill to FIRE the weapon, it takes skill to AIM IT. Not that hard to figure out...

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The BR is a weapon that emphsises precision and accuracy. If you can't 4-shot someone than you suck at Halo 2.

Your pathetic, like one of the little kids that shouts NO SCOPE every time they get a no scope kill. You are really pathetic.

  • 06.24.2006 12:05 PM PDT

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u guys r also getting the names wrong

H1PC- Halo combat evoled for the personal computer

H2PC- Halo 2 for the personal computer

H1X- Halo combate evoled for the xbox

H2X- halo 2 for the xbox

H1CE- Halo custom edition, a free download from gearbox, to make up for the crappy port to the pc. it allows cusotm maps and wepons to b created, and is a totally stand alone program, seperate from H1PC.

do u get it now? its not h1ce, thats for pc, its h1x, ok??!? Halo CE is for the PC, look it up on http://Halomaps.org, thats the offical halo ce site, run by gearbox software.






One thing...what the crap are you smoking? Im holding up the friggin Halo case right now for the Xbox, and it says Halo: Combat Evolved, I dont know about you, but im pretty sure that translates to Halo:CE/ H:CE. For the most part, when people are talking about the first Halo, they are talking about the xbox version, and they shorten it to H:CE...and its usually used in comparison to H2, why? Because H2 for PC was only recently(ish) announced to come out while H2 for the Xbox has been out how many years beforehand? Sorry, but I just had to say that, you weren't using good logic! ;p

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HALO TAKES NO SKILL!!!!!

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I completely agree with PVT COOPER. Halo 1 can be compared to the H1 or original Hummer. Completely useful made for offroading a true badass vehicle. Simple yet very effective, no B.S. get the job done and then some. Then there is Halo 2 or the H2. Same Hummer name although now it is manufactured by GM. Made a lot less rugged, not anywhere near the off roading capabilities, geared way more towards the standard mass appeal SUV Americans have come to love. And now it is selling more than ever and soccer moms and yuppies everywhere are now true offroaders with a no prisoner mentality ( LOL Halo 2 players, can you see a resemblance?)I am tired of all those who never played Halo 1 and are the proudest and loudest supporters of Halo 2. Everything that separated Halo from all other FPS was taken out or watered down for implementation into Halo 2. Easier health, easier weapons, (plasma sword?) and spray and prey gameplay, making it an avg. shooter for average gamers and overall a below average experience, when compared to Halo 1. Halo was a simple game that could be taken to the gamers ability allowing great players the ability to stand out because of their individual skill either by getting kills or by team assists etc. Halo 2 tries to force feed the Halo 1 specialties down your throat making it anything but exciting. My only hope is that Halo2 is strictly a watered down commercial version to attract more casual gamers, and then Halo 3 will be back with the strategy and true skill required to have a great game. Give me back the accurate pistol, the powerful shotgun, the old mele, the true health bar, the real grenade throwing ability, the AR and the true Halo players who are about strategy and understand these concepts. If it is not broke, do not fix it. You can keep your dual wielding, infinite shield, no fall damage, anything fiesta, noob stick, KB TOYS PISTOL, heat sinking rocket launcher, power jump, Mario party match system, slightly improved graphics, worse user friendly interface, hidden easter eggs, and anything else that fell into the category of larger demographic, or casual gamers surveyed. The majority of "True Halo Gamers " meaning those who had the game at launch, hooked up X boxes all over the house, at all times of night, drove to out of state tournaments, and truly understood and still understand the uniqueness that Halo brought us would appreciate a true Halo game for True Halo Gamers. If you are looking for us, some may have given in to the X box live appeal, however some of us are still playing Halo (the not live compatible?) on Xbconnect. If Halo 3 is to be great you should let the Halo2 fanatics dual wield their weapons, and get 3 shots to the head with a true weapon. Halo2 belonged on the Gamecube. It is not a horrible game but it is not intended nor satisfactory for someone wanting a true Halo sequel. Without Halo 1 gamers there would most likely be no X box today due to the fact that Halo kept it alive. And for thanks to this we got Halo 2. I actually played Halo2 multiplayer before it was released and after 45min I went back to Halo. Praying it was not the actual game I still purchased it on the release date only to be completely disappointed. As I stated before it is an overall good game for the average gamer. It does not however have the Halo gameplay I believed would be there. If Halo2 released with X Box you could find the Dreamcast and the X Box on the same shelf at a garage sale. You (Bungie) may argue numbers, most live games played, most players etc... However LAN games played on Halo1 I believe would be far superior as far as numbers are concerned when compared to previous games played on a LAN. You can get a feel for who understands the game by the suggestions they make. Example:(1) Original Pistol is to powerful = Not good enough or smart enough to hide, or shoot back and win the battle.(2) Dual wielding is awesome = Not accurate enough with one weapon.(3) Need more weapons = never understood the balance in Halo1 was a perfect weapon set with the outcome based on skill not weapon in hand. (4) Halo 2 is better than Halo 1 = Believes what other people tell them, fall for marketing concepts, believes anything newer or has more is better. I have never been this concerned with a videogame in my lifetime, however Halo showed me a whole new concept of game strategy that you could truly master. Give me Hangem and Chillout, give me physics that make sense, give me the original gameplay that gave birth to Halo, or do not give me Halo 3.


Halo2 = WWE (WWF) (Hulk Hogan) (Some other big guy in tights acting out a fight)
Halo = UFC (Matt Hughs) (Chuck Liddell) (Tito Ortiz)

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I completely agree with PVT COOPER. Halo 1 can be compared to the H1 or original Hummer. Completely useful made for offroading a true badass vehicle. Simple yet very effective, no B.S. get the job done and then some. Then there is Halo 2 or the H2. Same Hummer name although now it is manufactured by GM. Made a lot less rugged, not anywhere near the off roading capabilities, geared way more towards the standard mass appeal SUV Americans have come to love. And now it is selling more than ever and soccer moms and yuppies everywhere are now true offroaders with a no prisoner mentality ( LOL Halo 2 players, can you see a resemblance?)I am tired of all those who never played Halo 1 and are the proudest and loudest supporters of Halo 2. Everything that separated Halo from all other FPS was taken out or watered down for implementation into Halo 2. Easier health, easier weapons, (plasma sword?) and spray and prey gameplay, making it an avg. shooter for average gamers and overall a below average experience, when compared to Halo 1. Halo was a simple game that could be taken to the gamers ability allowing great players the ability to stand out because of their individual skill either by getting kills or by team assists etc. Halo 2 tries to force feed the Halo 1 specialties down your throat making it anything but exciting. My only hope is that Halo2 is strictly a watered down commercial version to attract more casual gamers, and then Halo 3 will be back with the strategy and true skill required to have a great game. Give me back the accurate pistol, the powerful shotgun, the old mele, the true health bar, the real grenade throwing ability, the AR and the true Halo players who are about strategy and understand these concepts. If it is not broke, do not fix it. You can keep your dual wielding, infinite shield, no fall damage, anything fiesta, noob stick, KB TOYS PISTOL, heat sinking rocket launcher, power jump, Mario party match system, slightly improved graphics, worse user friendly interface, hidden easter eggs, and anything else that fell into the category of larger demographic, or casual gamers surveyed. The majority of "True Halo Gamers " meaning those who had the game at launch, hooked up X boxes all over the house, at all times of night, drove to out of state tournaments, and truly understood and still understand the uniqueness that Halo brought us would appreciate a true Halo game for True Halo Gamers. If you are looking for us, some may have given in to the X box live appeal, however some of us are still playing Halo (the not live compatible?) on Xbconnect. If Halo 3 is to be great you should let the Halo2 fanatics dual wield their weapons, and get 3 shots to the head with a true weapon. Halo2 belonged on the Gamecube. It is not a horrible game but it is not intended nor satisfactory for someone wanting a true Halo sequel. Without Halo 1 gamers there would most likely be no X box today due to the fact that Halo kept it alive. And for thanks to this we got Halo 2. I actually played Halo2 multiplayer before it was released and after 45min I went back to Halo. Praying it was not the actual game I still purchased it on the release date only to be completely disappointed. As I stated before it is an overall good game for the average gamer. It does not however have the Halo gameplay I believed would be there. If Halo2 released with X Box you could find the Dreamcast and the X Box on the same shelf at a garage sale. You (Bungie) may argue numbers, most live games played, most players etc... However LAN games played on Halo1 I believe would be far superior as far as numbers are concerned when compared to previous games played on a LAN. You can get a feel for who understands the game by the suggestions they make. Example:(1) Original Pistol is to powerful = Not good enough or smart enough to hide, or shoot back and win the battle.(2) Dual wielding is awesome = Not accurate enough with one weapon.(3) Need more weapons = never understood the balance in Halo1 was a perfect weapon set with the outcome based on skill not weapon in hand. (4) Halo 2 is better than Halo 1 = Believes what other people tell them, fall for marketing concepts, believes anything newer or has more is better. I have never been this concerned with a videogame in my lifetime, however Halo showed me a whole new concept of game strategy that you could truly master. Give me Hangem and Chillout, give me physics that make sense, give me the original gameplay that gave birth to Halo, or do not give me Halo 3.


Halo2 = WWE (WWF) (Hulk Hogan) (Some other big guy in tights acting out a fight)
Halo = UFC (Matt Hughs) (Chuck Liddell) (Tito Ortiz)

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I read all of that and agree except for I still play H2.
Then again its pretty hard to make a game as good as Halo:CE.
We all know how BUNGIE was rushed into making the game(e.g Last Ark level taken out) and this time around they have all the time they want.


Also you should space some stuff there , it was a bit hard to read.

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I liked the AR because it made me feel like I was playing in a Zombie Movie, you know, just holding down the trigger aiming at whatever runs towards you. Why does a weapon in a game need to take "skill" to be there? Can't it just be a fun weapon? Isn't that the point of a game? To be fun?

edit: this is directed to the first post of this thread by the way, I didn't realise you guys could write so quickly...

[Edited on 6/25/2006]

  • 06.25.2006 9:28 PM PDT