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Subject: How bulletproof is spartan armor?
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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
This is the world of fiction, where anything is possible, even a giant green beast closing a black hole with his bare hands.

If a Flood infector can pierce nancomposite titanium armor, than that's what he can do, am I right?


Hulk didn't actually close a black hole, and one could write it off as comic logic anyway. It'd still be canon, but whatever.

What you're insinuating is that an Infection Form can tear though apparently bulletproof titanium alloys...but is easily held still by Johnson. It's strong enough to pierce "advanced" future armor, but is easily kept at bay by regular marines. (Granted Johnson was a Spartan).

Halo's supposed to be at least semi-realistic. What happened to that?

  • 09.26.2012 1:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
This is the world of fiction, where anything is possible, even a giant green beast closing a black hole with his bare hands.

If a Flood infector can pierce nancomposite titanium armor, than that's what he can do, am I right?


Hulk didn't actually close a black hole, and one could write it off as comic logic anyway. It'd still be canon, but whatever.

What you're insinuating is that an Infection Form can tear though apparently bulletproof titanium alloys...but is easily held still by Johnson. It's strong enough to pierce "advanced" future armor, but is easily kept at bay by regular marines. (Granted Johnson was a Spartan).

Halo's supposed to be at least semi-realistic. What happened to that?


Disbelief. Suspend it.

  • 09.26.2012 4:44 PM PDT


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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
This is the world of fiction, where anything is possible, even a giant green beast closing a black hole with his bare hands.

If a Flood infector can pierce nancomposite titanium armor, than that's what he can do, am I right?


Hulk didn't actually close a black hole, and one could write it off as comic logic anyway. It'd still be canon, but whatever.

What you're insinuating is that an Infection Form can tear though apparently bulletproof titanium alloys...but is easily held still by Johnson. It's strong enough to pierce "advanced" future armor, but is easily kept at bay by regular marines. (Granted Johnson was a Spartan).

Halo's supposed to be at least semi-realistic. What happened to that?


I'm talking about the needle itself, not entirely the raw strength of the infection form.

So here's what we know. John's body suit is composed of a nanocomposite titanium alloy. We know it's bullet proof to a degree. We know an infection form can pierce it. Conclusion: the Flood can pierce bullet proof armor.

1+1=2


And:

Hulk didn't actually close a black hole

Not according to you several times in that one thread. Did the rules change or something?

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  • 09.26.2012 6:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
I'm talking about the needle itself, not entirely the raw strength of the infection form.

So here's what we know. John's body suit is composed of a nanocomposite titanium alloy. We know it's bullet proof to a degree. We know an infection form can pierce it. Conclusion: the Flood can pierce bullet proof armor.


So apparently it's more durable when plot-relevant but is less durable when plot-relevant?

Makes sense.

Not according to you several times in that one thread. Did the rules change or something?

Which thread?

Wee Man MJJC proved that wrong. Still impressive though, he resisted a hole not even Silver Surfer or Doc Strange could resist.

  • 09.26.2012 6:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
I'm talking about the needle itself, not entirely the raw strength of the infection form.

So here's what we know. John's body suit is composed of a nanocomposite titanium alloy. We know it's bullet proof to a degree. We know an infection form can pierce it. Conclusion: the Flood can pierce bullet proof armor.


So apparently it's more durable when plot-relevant but is less durable when plot-relevant?

Makes sense.

Nope. If the Flood were to have even a sliver of a chance defeating the forerunners, those needles on the top of the infection form would have to pierce class 12 combat skins and up. Considering MJOLNIR is class 2, it would make sense if an infection form could pierce the inferior armour.

  • 09.26.2012 7:49 PM PDT

In the Gaming world they call me The Prodigy. My guess is because I spent my time helping every person with every problem rather they where my enemies or not. With that said I also ended up blowing the minds of everyone I met online. And in the real world if we are talking about Game development and computer skill. None the less I tend to present my self in a generally professional manner and I do not tolerate an annoying degree of Disrespect or high levels of ignorance.

My problem with the armor is the gell layer, if master chief can survive a drop from orbit and survive due to the gell layer locking up shouldn't it do the same for bullets and catche them similar to the woven fabric in bullet proof vests? Though then again. It is a video game, if it was 100% realistic rather than 7% then it probably wouldn't be as fun. But since halo is changing I guess it would be 343% now...

  • 09.27.2012 12:59 PM PDT
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I feel that everyone ignored my statement for while ago.

I'll say this again:

FoR (Fall of Reach) Novel states that MJOLNIR is vulnerable to .30 caliber weapons or higher calibers PLUS armor piercing rounds as well.

  • 09.27.2012 2:02 PM PDT

Definitely. It's obvious just from looking at how much damage the marines can take. Once your shields are gone, you don't even last as long as they do, usually. The armor is just for show, you might as well have shields only and otherwise be completely naked.

  • 09.28.2012 4:06 AM PDT

In the Gaming world they call me The Prodigy. My guess is because I spent my time helping every person with every problem rather they where my enemies or not. With that said I also ended up blowing the minds of everyone I met online. And in the real world if we are talking about Game development and computer skill. None the less I tend to present my self in a generally professional manner and I do not tolerate an annoying degree of Disrespect or high levels of ignorance.

I agree, and the only reason the Marines on Halo can take so many bullets is because they are just that bad @$$.

  • 09.28.2012 6:42 AM PDT

What a waste....

There's this thing called Full Metal Jacket...

  • 09.28.2012 7:21 AM PDT
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Posted by: BIOHAZRED
I agree, and the only reason the Marines on Halo can take so many bullets is because they are just that bad @$$.


That's game mechanics. It's not canon.

Marines dies from a single plasma round or two in books.

  • 09.28.2012 10:33 AM PDT

In the Gaming world they call me The Prodigy. My guess is because I spent my time helping every person with every problem rather they where my enemies or not. With that said I also ended up blowing the minds of everyone I met online. And in the real world if we are talking about Game development and computer skill. None the less I tend to present my self in a generally professional manner and I do not tolerate an annoying degree of Disrespect or high levels of ignorance.


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Posted by: BIOHAZRED
I agree, and the only reason the Marines on Halo can take so many bullets is because they are just that bad @$$.


That's game mechanics. It's not canon.

Marines dies from a single plasma round or two in books.


True though normally if you where to shoot a human with plasma like that I would guess that wherever you got shot rather it the head, legs, torso, arms, etc; It would more than likely burn a massive hole through the area impacted. This being said the Marines are much stronger than a normal human. Remember this is a video game so you most likely wont expect or want it to be 100% Realistic. likewise My comment on the Marines being "Bad A**" was in some sense sarcasm because being "bad A**" Would not make you any more resistant to plasma in the first place. None the less the marines in Halo are "Bad a**" in general, especially in Halo 3:ODST.

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  • 09.28.2012 12:06 PM PDT
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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
I'm talking about the needle itself, not entirely the raw strength of the infection form.

So here's what we know. John's body suit is composed of a nanocomposite titanium alloy. We know it's bullet proof to a degree. We know an infection form can pierce it. Conclusion: the Flood can pierce bullet proof armor.


So apparently it's more durable when plot-relevant but is less durable when plot-relevant?

Makes sense.

Nope. If the Flood were to have even a sliver of a chance defeating the forerunners, those needles on the top of the infection form would have to pierce class 12 combat skins and up. Considering MJOLNIR is class 2, it would make sense if an infection form could pierce the inferior armour.


Fair enough.

  • 09.28.2012 7:27 PM PDT

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