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  • 09.18.2012 1:40 PM PDT


Posted by: Delta Ex Genesis
Do I send a message to a master moderator or Achronos?
Yes.

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If you feel that you have been wronged by a Forum Ninja or have an issue about a Forum Ninja that you would like to have addressed, your first step is to contact a Master Forum Ninja. After you have made contact with them, they will be able to take care of the issue, or advance it to DeeJ.

  • 09.18.2012 1:43 PM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.


Posted by: Delta Ex Genesis
I saw a moderator harassing people in a thread in The Flood forum entitled "Police shoot and kill autistic man". How can I report him? Do I send a message to a master moderator or Achronos?

Send a PM and include a link the to thread to a Master Moderator.

They will evaluate the claim and reply to you.

If you are not satisfied with their response, you can then forward the information (cumulative, your original complaint and the Master Ninja reply) to our boss, DeeJ.

If he feels that either the ninja or the Master ninja were inappropriate, he will give us the approrpiate counseling, instruction, advice, punishment or force us to watch the "so you wanna be a moderator?" video that Slayer put together non-stop for a week. Trust me, that last one? It sucks.

  • 09.18.2012 1:45 PM PDT
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I understand nothing because my life is a conspiracy.

I don't think bobcast was harassing anyone, he was just angry at the ignorant people. You're allowed to be angry. But that's just my opinion.

Anyways, just PM an employee or another mod.

[Edited on 09.18.2012 1:46 PM PDT]

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Posted by: Jay120171
Bobcast: the only ninja to operate an ER out of his mom's basement

Not to sound like a jerk, but you need to go reread that thread.

I did not call anyone an idiot. Please work on your reading comprehension.

  • 09.18.2012 1:51 PM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

I've just reviewed the thread.

There was no harrassment. The moderator in question was taking part in the conversation (as every member, including moderators, are allowed and encouraged to do). His authority on the topic being discussed is not based on his position as a ninja, but his training and history as former military, former public safety, and as an ER doctor. So, when he replied to tell people they were mistaken in an assumption or were mistating a fact, he was replying approrpiately to prevent other members from being mislead by the erroneous statements (presented as fact) by others.

The color of our text doesn't mean that we have to be Mary Poppins. If we know something, and we see someone speaking mistakenly or telling an untruth, we (as any member can) are able and inclined to correct and state the correct information. Our colored text is not related to that. As a matter of fact, our colored text makes us more aware that we should be correct, when we assert a fact, and we provide backing to our statements.

Telling someone that they are misinformed but they are welcome to go on speaking untruths in the face of real facts and continue to show their ignorance on a subject is not an insult.

Saying "ur dumb and don't know -blam!-" is. There is a difference.

  • 09.18.2012 1:55 PM PDT
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I'm gonna finish it. Just like Jigga did to the pyramid.

DeeJ is watching

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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.


Posted by: ALI217
DeeJ is watching

Most likely.

And if he has guidance for any of our team, we all accept it gladly so that we can better perform to the desires and expectations of our friends and hosts. I've been counseled more than once before, each time it occurred it was an opportunity for me to become a better moderator.

More times than I've been calling in for counseling, I have asked for advice or direction, too see if I was going too far, pushing too hard, or not doing enough. We all attempt to self-police, group review, and ask our bosses to evaluate us in order that we don't "go off course".

This is a good example, and the fact that it played out in the public forums instead of PM, isn't a bad thing either. It shows how we (as a team) feel free and able to review each other, make sure that we're being consistent or at least reasonable/understandable and that we don't just "cover up each others dirty laundry".

  • 09.18.2012 2:04 PM PDT

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Plus, most of our mods here play around anyways. OR try to give someone some "tough-love" advice (aka sounding like a jack-blam!- even though your giving them some knowledge.)

  • 09.18.2012 2:06 PM PDT

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After skimming through that entire thread and reading bobcast's posts. I'd say that was necessary and non-rule breaking.

bobcast is good mod :O

  • 09.18.2012 2:07 PM PDT

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He didn't flame any users in any of those posts.

  • 09.18.2012 2:14 PM PDT

Posted by: Delta Ex Genesis

Posted by: bobcast
Not to sound like a jerk, but you need to go reread that thread.

I did not call anyone an idiot. Please work on your reading comprehension.

Evidence of harassment:

Evidence 1
Evidence 2
Evidence 3

I'm sure there's more I missed.
Stop being a dumbass. Maybe then people won't treat you like crap.

  • 09.18.2012 2:15 PM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.


Posted by: Delta Ex Genesis

Posted by: bobcast
Not to sound like a jerk, but you need to go reread that thread.

I did not call anyone an idiot. Please work on your reading comprehension.

Evidence of harassment:

Evidence 1
Evidence 2
Evidence 3

I'm sure there's more I missed.

Those are not harassment. Those are well worded corrections that are attempting to explain to a member that their opinion (which they are entitled to) is based upon an mistaken premise, an unknown fact, or that they are willfully ignoring those facts. To then say, "you need to brush up on your facts before forming and expressing an opinion AS fact-based" is not insulting, it's good advice.

If you are of the opinion that "they didn't say nice things = harassment" then you should check YOUR understanding of definition and the facts before you make yourself look foolish.

See? I just did the same thing. It was advice, not an insult. I am not angry at you and I want you to better understand so you can more properly participate in a discussion that requires us all to have similar definitions of key terms and points.

  • 09.18.2012 2:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: Delta Ex Genesis
Posted by: bobcast
Not to sound like a jerk, but you need to go reread that thread.

I did not call anyone an idiot. Please work on your reading comprehension.

Evidence of harassment:

Evidence 1
Evidence 2
Evidence 3

I'm sure there's more I missed.
You sure you want to be throwing all those stones around your glass house, OP?

I think Recon said it best when he said that Forum Ninjas are not required to be Mary Poppins. Harsh, blunt language can be an effective communication tool, and we know that folks in the Flood can handle it because you hurl it around at each other in the Flood as if you actually hate each other. I don't think it's unfair to call you a hypocrite for you to then complain about mildly harsh language when it comes from a Forum Ninja. Bobcast told the other user to stop posting falsities or risk looking like an idiot. That hardly rises to the level of harassment.

I don't know why folks like you come here to make this complaint, but you are not the first, you will not be the last, and each and every one of you has similar -- and almost always worse -- posts in your own history. And don't tell me "oh I'd get banned for that if I posted it." You were not warned or banned for any of the posts I linked above, though your post history is replete with plenty of other (and some worse) examples as well. You know that's public, right?

So: you're a hypocrite. Come back and complain about the speck in a someone else's eye when you've cleaned that plank out of your own.

[Edited on 09.18.2012 2:19 PM PDT]

  • 09.18.2012 2:18 PM PDT

OP, you best un-blam!- yourself before trying to fix the world. Your conduct in that thread hardly gives you the right to make any complaints.

  • 09.18.2012 2:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: Jay120171
Bobcast: the only ninja to operate an ER out of his mom's basement

Posted by: Delta Ex Genesis

Posted by: bobcast
Not to sound like a jerk, but you need to go reread that thread.

I did not call anyone an idiot. Please work on your reading comprehension.

Evidence of harassment:

Evidence 1
Evidence 2
Evidence 3

I'm sure there's more I missed.


I'm beginning to believe you do not understand the meaning of the word ignorance.

Definition of ignorance:

The state or fact of being ignorant: having a lack of knowledge, education, or awareness


The word(s) ignorant/ignorance isn't an insult. It is a word used to describe someone who has a lack of understanding about a topic.

With that, I'm done here.

[Edited on 09.18.2012 2:21 PM PDT]

  • 09.18.2012 2:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: x Foman123 x
Posted by: Delta Ex Genesis
Posted by: bobcast
Not to sound like a jerk, but you need to go reread that thread.

I did not call anyone an idiot. Please work on your reading comprehension.

Evidence of harassment:

Evidence 1
Evidence 2
Evidence 3

I'm sure there's more I missed.
You sure you want to be throwing all those stones around your glass house, OP?

Foman you genius.

  • 09.18.2012 2:20 PM PDT

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OH -blam!- FOMAN


Damn.


Well done.



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  • 09.18.2012 2:24 PM PDT

I hate Foman less each day that passes.

  • 09.18.2012 2:27 PM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

Posted by: Delta Ex Genesis
Wrong. I've seen people banned for much less, so just because this is a mid doesn't mean you can abstractly redefine what harassment means, considering you all don't even have a set definition to begin with. Either way, hes going to be reported, and if you were mods of integrity, you would learn to word things better. Also, you should act like grown men.

I don't abstractly define harassment. But it appears that your and my definitions do not match.

You are welcome and encouraged to report him, me and whoever else you feel has not been appropriate. The fact that we're conversing, not getting angry (I can assure you that I am not) that there is no malice or taunting in my post(s).

Since however, this has been done "open hand" instead of through PM, it would probably be a good idea if DeeJ just came in and gave a ruling so that this whole episode "start to finish" was handled in a way that all members could see how we deal with these reports.

You've had the response, explanation and reasoning of the moderator who you feel was offensive, you have the review and opinions of two Master Moderators after they have reviewed the topic in question and the posting of all involved, and so, now the next step would be DeeJ. Let's see if we can find him and pull him away from whatever cool things that he is looking into to provide "pinpoints of light in the darkness" and get him to explain his view on this matter and our protocol for escalating and handling such issues.

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Posted by: Recon Number 54

Posted by: Delta Ex Genesis

Posted by: bobcast
Not to sound like a jerk, but you need to go reread that thread.

I did not call anyone an idiot. Please work on your reading comprehension.

Evidence of harassment:

Evidence 1
Evidence 2
Evidence 3

I'm sure there's more I missed.

Those are not harassment. Those are well worded corrections that are attempting to explain to a member that their opinion (which they are entitled to) is based upon an mistaken premise, an unknown fact, or that they are willfully ignoring those facts. To then say, "you need to brush up on your facts before forming and expressing an opinion AS fact-based" is not insulting, it's good advice.

If you are of the opinion that "they didn't say nice things = harassment" then you should check YOUR understanding of definition and the facts before you make yourself look foolish.

See? I just did the same thing. It was advice, not an insult. I am not angry at you and I want you to better understand so you can more properly participate in a discussion that requires us all to have similar definitions of key terms and points.

Wrong. I've seen people banned for much less, so just because this is a mid doesn't mean you can abstractly redefine what harassment means, considering you all don't even have a set definition to begin with. Either way, hes going to be reported, and if you were mods of integrity, you would learn to word things better. Also, you should act like grown men.
Is this a joke? I really cannot tell.

  • 09.18.2012 2:30 PM PDT
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Posted by: Der Todesengel
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I do believe OP is ignorant to the definition of ignorance.

In any case, I searched very hard to find where the accused harassed anyone, with no luck.

As they say in the military, you gotta have thick skin.

  • 09.18.2012 2:31 PM PDT

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