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Subject: How many Elite players think power-ups are for losers

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Posted by: thebusstop
I dont use rockets, or snipers either, so its just my skillz.


Yes, you're right. Neither rocket launchers or sniper rifles take any skill to use. I mean hell, i'm sure any 5 year old could pick up Halo and instantly own with those! Sheesh, what was I thinking? May as well grab the ol' pistol and snipe someone from across the level in 3 shots! Power-ups? Those are cheap! Now the (incredibly over-powered and over-ranged) pistol, that's a skill weapon!

[Edited on 5/18/2004 11:57:07 PM]

  • 05.18.2004 11:56 PM PDT
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in my area (i keep referring back to that) we play no sniping mode, so its no pistols or no sniper rifles.... i'm too good with them, while my friends still miss with a pistol...

(its odd, second best in my area doesnt even own the game, while theres about 5 that do....)

[Edited on 5/19/2004 12:00:29 AM]

  • 05.18.2004 11:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: thechad2k2
"How many Elite players think power-ups are for losers?"

Cmon, thats like saying that you're a bad player because you kill people with a rocket launcher (a mate of mine roars out "errr nOOb cannon" everytime someone kills him with it!)
They're there to spice things up a little. I will say though, that they should definately be an option in Halo 2 (just like the Infinite grenades option in halo 1 - as mentioned repeatedly throughout this thread)

Besides, it's great fun sneaking up behind someone with the Cloak on..

And if you don't like power ups... just don't pick 'em up! Why is this even an issue!!!

Next well hear that "the only true weapon is the pistol" ("elite" players love the pistol)... I hope they take this grossly overpowered weapon out of Halo 2, or at least dumb it down a bit... maybe remove the zoom feature from the pistol while moving (which is a ridiculous notion anyway). I know I'll get flamed for saying that, but if you were in real combat with a pistol against a number of opponents with assult rifles, you would get killed.

So leave the Power-ups in... just leave it up to the player as to whether or not they're activated.


The pistol wont be dumbed down however the new wepons and the older ones will be beefed up to atleast meat the standards of the pistol.

One more thing about power ups. It gives the foot soldier a better chance against vehicles. Just be thankful you cant fly an invisible ghost

  • 05.19.2004 6:34 AM PDT
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if they bring back power ups i think it would be kinda cool if elites can only use the cloak and spartans only use the over sheild

  • 05.19.2004 6:39 AM PDT
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Is the pistol going to be in halo 2? The guys who played at E3 said it wasn't on the map.

  • 05.19.2004 7:59 AM PDT
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Bungie should eliminate power ups from Halo 2. In a game where somebody is obviously outmatched, they have no effect on the game. A very good player with no power ups should be able to defeat an average player with power ups enough to win the game. The problem comes into play where players are of an equal skill level. On a level where you can hang out by the power ups and time when they re-spawn (Prisoner, Rat Race, Battle Creek) a player too easily go on a run simply becasue he has the power ups. It has nothing to do with his skill as a Halo player. Plus, in the best levels (In my humble opinion: Hang 'em High, Prisoner, Blood Gulch) It is too hazardous to camp near the powerups during the whole game, so shooting and such become all the more important.

That being said, every time I play in a game I use power ups to the max. I have a problem with people who say "I don't use them, they're cheap" because then every time they lose, they can use "But I wasn't using power ups" as an excuse. Every player starts with the same health, same speed, and same opportunity to do what it takes to win.

Or at the very least, there should be an option to disable them.

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  • 05.19.2004 8:10 AM PDT
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I think the pistol will be in halo 2 and you will be able to use 2 at a time

  • 05.19.2004 8:11 AM PDT
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I hope bungie never et the psitol in halo 2 that would be good.
The pistol is probably one of the biggest newblike weapons in the history of gaming where powerups are cool.

Did you know that you can prevent people from getting them!!!
and that you can see nivicibel people if they shoot at you!
That you can easily beat a person with the shiled thing if you get the first strike!
That invicibel people aren't hard to see unless if youre sniping and theyre 50-500 m away and running and are on grass.

i mean if you think about the rocket launcher then youle know that it dosn't have many shoots
it takes 4ever 2 reach its target it takes out the space of an other weapon with lots of shoots
its abit the same dialema with the sniper i mean that 1 extra weapon is VERY important.

  • 05.19.2004 8:36 AM PDT
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They could make the powerups in harder to reach places. Not as in it takes to long to get them but it would be too hard to get them cause its too dangerous of an area, a la Hang em High.

  • 05.19.2004 11:02 AM PDT
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Always when I'm playing with my friends, we have a rule:
You have to commit suicide if you pick up a powerup!

  • 05.19.2004 11:17 AM PDT
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"Power-ups are the scum of all time, I never personaly use them, I dont use rockets, or snipers either, so its just my skill, and I usualy win anyway. "

I would SO own your arse if we played. I use EVERY weapon and EVERY power-up WHENEVER I can.

pistol, plasma rifle, shotgun, rocket, snipes, whatever...it sounds like everyone on here thinks they are elite. YEA RIGHT!

being elite is more then just being good, its better then pro...I bet there are only like 5-6 true elites that even visit this forum let alone contribute. A true elite uses power-ups, because if you don't then your missing out on ALOT of different strategies

ILL TELL YOU ONE THING---

If you think your elite and you play me, and you -blam!- abotu me being invis and rocket, its probably because YOU JUST LOST.

  • 05.19.2004 11:18 AM PDT
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And you are an elite?.,.,.,.,.,

  • 05.19.2004 11:28 AM PDT
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I don't really know what othere s think is cheap inhalo but i can gell you, its not cheap to use whatever is int eh game in order to win, thats what its all about who uses their surroundings power up s and weapons as best as possibel

  • 05.19.2004 12:01 PM PDT
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I can say with no ego, that yes I am elite, I kick ass and know it

  • 05.19.2004 12:04 PM PDT
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i got this one friend, me and him are the top two of our friends, whos better between us changes daily. he's one of these jerks who times the powerups and wepon respawns. i refuse to do this. if i happen upon a powerup, grayte. if i see the OS in chill out, ill grenade it to myself. i was thinkiing mabye each player could only pick up a powerup once per game, thus difusing my hatred of "powerup whores" who dont have reflexive or combat skills, but simply are good planners. got myself all worked up. im gonna go kick his ass in wizard.

  • 05.19.2004 12:13 PM PDT
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difusing my hatred of "powerup whores" who dont have reflexive or combat skills, but simply are good planners.

Um, good planning IS a vital combat skill. Not just putting crosshairs over a target.

  • 05.19.2004 5:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: Eagle 117
Not to be an @$$, but if your an "elite player" shouldn't you be able to handle someone who picks up a few power ups?

(Meant in as joking of a nature as possible:)


Well, I can handle 'em just fine, its just annoying cause it detracts from the game when they just sit there and wait for them to respawn

  • 05.19.2004 8:09 PM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

well if you have to rely on power-ups to win,that says you suck ass and cant win on your own

  • 05.19.2004 8:13 PM PDT
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your only saying this stuff because (im talking to anyone who says power ups arent cheap) you use them! sure,i get mad when i die from someone who used an overshield,but i if used one then i would win too easily,thats why us elite players dont use them! it makes them game to easy! so,of course we get mad when n00bs use them and win (we would when if we used them on n00bs right? right.) also,all of us know how to counter them but its still annoying.i dont make excuses when i die. i know i had the chance to get a power up and i didnt,thats my fault (and i admit,i grab an over shieild every now and then) but i only hate people who use them all the time. im fine if someone uses them only a little bit,but newbs use them alot and that is cheap.

  • 05.19.2004 8:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: Nedus
well if you have to rely on power-ups to win,that says you suck ass and cant win on your own


EXACTLY.

  • 05.19.2004 8:26 PM PDT
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and one other thing. those of you who keep saying we hate power ups because we cant beat them,your wrong. dont you think that if we kept losing to power ups then we would use them ourselves? of course. just like if you lose to a rocket launcher a whole bunch. you grab one give'em a taste of thier own medicine. (i dont do that,i grab a sniper,but just giving an example)

[Edited on 5/19/2004 8:36:48 PM]

  • 05.19.2004 8:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: I KILL GRUNTS
and one other thing. those of you who keep saying we hate power ups because we cant beat them,your wrong. dont you think that if we kept losing to power ups then we would use them ourselves? of course. just like if you lose to a rocket launcher a whole bunch. you grab one give'em a taste of thier own medicine. (i dont do that,i grab a sniper,but just giving an example)

dude, your just mad because you can't win when your playing against better people, so you have to blame it on the power ups or the weapons, or the fact that the noise in the next room is to loud. its everyone elses fault but your sad "skillz"

  • 05.19.2004 10:24 PM PDT

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