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Subject: so the OXM guys want dual wielding energy swords....

whats up with that. i honestly dont really like the sword. and no im not one of those crazy guys that wishes that halo 2 was exactly like halo 1 and -blam!- about the pistol all the time, for the most part i think there isnt much wrong with halo 2. i just think that the sword is too powerful, i mean when a melee weapon has a longer range than a projectile weapon(shotgun), something is a little wrong. i would just rather them have a good human shotgun and some kind of covenant equivalent in halo 3. nothing thats really more powerful than the other. i would honestly not miss the sword if it werent in halo 3 if its going to be like it is in halo 2. if we are still going to have the crazy (and mostly ridiculous) melee lunges with all weapons in halo 3, then the sword should have NO lunge function and be a 1 hit kill all the time. then it would be really deadly close up, but you couldnt just suddenly lunge 10 ft out of midair and kill someone. instead you would just lunge that couple of feet like with every weapon and kill them. personally i dont want any melee lunging at all. whaddya think?


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  • 06.24.2006 11:29 PM PDT
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I don't want melee lunging on the sword either. There was no skill involved in using that weapon. :\

  • 06.24.2006 11:36 PM PDT
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I hope there isn't dual wielding swords. I also hope that they bring back the Halo 1 pistol. It help a lot on blood gultch where snipers don't dominate the map like in Halo 2. The pistol brought balance to Halo 1. The only reason you hated the H1 pistol is because you didn't practice long enough with it to get good at it.

  • 06.24.2006 11:39 PM PDT
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It was less cheap than the sword was.

At least the pistol involved aim.

  • 06.24.2006 11:40 PM PDT
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i think if you really have good aim sword doesnt stand a chance.

shotgun > sword
sniper > sword
Battle rifle > sword
rockets > sword

maybe you guys run toward someone with a sword trying to melee them...
i dislike the plasma pistol more then the sword but i know theres a way against every weapon. so i think they should keep it in.

  • 06.24.2006 11:47 PM PDT

Dual-Wielding swords sound cool! Run faster and do all that jumping and lunging! Oh yea!

  • 06.24.2006 11:48 PM PDT
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Don't blame Bungie. You all wanted the energy sword in the game ever since you saw it in Halo. In fact, Bungie made the sword weaker in Halo 2. It's possible sometimes to survive a hit from it. In Halo, you could barely survive a slash by an Elite with overshields on. So you got what you wanted. Stop complaining.

Dual-wielding energy swords is really no different than wielding a single sword. It'd only be kinda pointless unless you want it to be like Crouching Tiger, of which sword dueling has yet to be perfected in the gaming universe.

The energy sword alone does not make it a weapon that "takes no skill to use". Someone has a sword. Everyone else has guns and cannons. Who is more likely to win? So you're saying a sword wielder should not get one kill, period.? If you are one of those who gets killed by sword-wielders, then you are hopeless. Players camping with the sword do use skill and tactic-stealth and ambush.

Maybe that's why there's something called a Shotgun(which by the way, also need to be reverted back to the original Shotgun's range and effectiveness). There are also alot of ways to counter a sword-wielder.

[Edited on 6/25/2006]

  • 06.25.2006 12:02 AM PDT

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Don't blame Bungie. You all wanted the energy sword in the game ever since you saw it in Halo. So you got what you wanted. Stop complaining.

Dual-wielding energy swords is really no different than wielding a single sword. It'd only be kinda pointless unless you want it to be like Crouching Tiger, of which sword dueling has yet to be perfected in the gaming universe.

The energy sword alone does not make it a weapon that "takes no skill to use". Someone has a sword. Everyone else has guns and cannons. Who is more likely to win? If you are one of those who gets killed by sword-wielders, then you are hopeless. Players camping with the sword do use skill and tactic-stealth and ambush.

Maybe that's why there's something called a Shotgun. There are also alot of ways to counter a sword-wielder.


Exactly my thoughts.
But the whole sword dual thing would make no sence and would have no other affect than the normal sword.
Seeing how it kills in one hit anyway what would be the point.
And to make the sword a little less powerful bungie should just put the jackel shield wield-able. Make it so its able to counter a sword if timed right or something.

  • 06.25.2006 12:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: zZ Dr K Zz
I hope there isn't dual wielding swords. I also hope that they bring back the Halo 1 pistol. It help a lot on blood gultch where snipers don't dominate the map like in Halo 2. The pistol brought balance to Halo 1. The only reason you hated the H1 pistol is because you didn't practice long enough with it to get good at it.


the battle rifle is pretty much the pistol from Halo 1. 12 shots with the pistol, 12 with the battle rifle. about 3-4 head shots to kill someone.

  • 06.25.2006 12:37 AM PDT

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I hope something is done about the sword in Halo 3. Not that anything will, i just hope that they make it harder to kill with.

  • 06.25.2006 12:54 AM PDT
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Well then, *cancels subscription to OXM*.

No I am joking, I did that long ago when they said what they wanted for Halo 2.

  • 06.25.2006 12:56 AM PDT
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Posted by: Sgt_Sludge
I don't want melee lunging on the sword either. There was no skill involved in using that weapon. :\


you can't get any kills without it.

  • 06.25.2006 2:18 AM PDT
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What is the point of instant killing someone twice? seriously?

  • 06.25.2006 2:41 AM PDT
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i think duel energy swords would be cool but it woudlnt do anything cuz one kills u already(would look -blam!- awsome though)

  • 06.25.2006 6:05 AM PDT
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  • 06.25.2006 6:12 AM PDT
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1) dual swords is just silly, all it gives is the "oooh look I'm weilding two swords, like a ninja!" feeling the first few times you do it.

2) I'd always regarded the sword in H2 as akin to the rockets and sniper, completely overpowering when used intelligently in an environment best suited to it.

Would you get any kills running around with the sword in Coagulation? Nope. Would you get any kills hiding inside a small room nwith the sniper rifle? no. Would you get any kills trying to snipe people from one end of a map to another with a rocketlauncher? no.

  • 06.25.2006 6:28 AM PDT
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The lunge is what makes the sword a deccent weapon, take that away and it is useless. Every shooting weapon will beat it and the only way to use it would be to sneak. If that's what you get then you might as well has another weapon. The lunge stays!

  • 06.25.2006 7:22 AM PDT
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The way i see it, dual swords could only have two purposes

1) Remember, when u lunge, there is a small delay before you can lunge again. With two swords, you could just continuously lunge from one person to another, dominating a room. Of course, it would require decent aim and good timing

2) If they weaken the sword, then it might have a use.


I personally feel that the sword should be weakened so that the lunge is not a 1-hit KO. Instead, just make it do the same damage as a normal slash. Thus, a 2-hit KO. the sword should also have a battery, which runs out after 20 hits. Thus, 2-hit KO and 20 hits = 10 kills before the sword dies. This would make assassinations more valuable with the sword, as it would save you a charge.

If they do wut i stated above, then dual swords might have a purpose.

  • 06.25.2006 8:14 AM PDT
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Although I admit my sword rampages may bore and frustrate other players, it can still be beaten. Just make it deplete, that's all. If it's the lunge that scares you, and you have no shotgun handy, just melee him and hope as he lunges...I have raccieved this and it was amazing, you can out-melee a sword with an SMG.

  • 06.25.2006 8:30 AM PDT

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I'd love to be a 10 year old and tell my mom I'm going on an adventure out into the world catching Pokemon, with her full support. Never mind the fact that there are rapists, criminals, and murders out there, or the fact that I may get killed by a Pokemon.

Luckily I have Pikachu.

I got an 18 kill killing spree with the sword about a week ago!

The reason why i got that many kills with the sword is because my teammates were doing nothing and the red team were making to many noobish mistakes, like turning there backs on me when I was clearly behind them.

So the problem isn't the sword, it's the players ho don't know how to effictively counter it!

Hell I just stick them with a grenade usually before I die!

  • 06.25.2006 8:31 AM PDT
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I got an 18 kill killing spree with the sword about a week ago!

The reason why i got that many kills with the sword is because my teammates were doing nothing and the red team were making to many noobish mistakes, like turning there backs on me when I was clearly behind them.

So the problem isn't the sword, it's the players ho don't know how to effictively counter it!

Hell I just stick them with a grenade usually before I die!


Thanks man, we need people like you when there are those who are afriad of a lightsabre armed noob. Remeber people...THEY CAN BE BEATEN!!!!

  • 06.25.2006 8:38 AM PDT
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Two Swords would be horrible.

This is not an anime game.

  • 06.25.2006 8:46 AM PDT

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