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Posted by: Helveck
no dragons
Not to be a dick but I want to address this. The Dragon thing was funny on the first thread, but as it went on it got really old really fast. I hope you're really serious with this thread. This is the type of thread I like in the Septagon, it has discussion value and its about the community. My guess is you were doing the Dragon thing to lighten things up but a least for me it did the opposite. All the Dragon threads that I would see I would see them as garbage spam.
Posted by: Helveck
Though this hobby can sometimes prove troublesome, because it involves other people. People have opinions. And when you take such a wide variety of people from all different walks of life, you will no doubt have a wide spectrum of beliefs and opinions. So while you are to come to this place to find enjoyment, and to have interest in what goes on here, oddly enough the primary function function of this site is designed to have mass amounts of people interact. When this occurs with so many different people, members both new and old begin to clash.When people interect they usually argue, and that's not a bad thing. The way I see forums is, Its a place for people to come and discuss and like you said people are different and have different opinions so they clash/argue. The only problem is sometimes people don't know how to keep the argument civil. I used to be uncivil on some of my arguments here but I like to think I learned from my mistakes.
Posted by: Helveck
Anyone anywhere can find a person and for whatever reason make that person their enemy. Anyone can be found by someone seeking confrontation. Anyone can be targeted, and anyone can target.
Now that is stupid. People that get too butthurt need to chill out, they need to let stuff go. For an example, the Dragon nonsense kept happening and I didn't hate you or have Ill feelings towards you. I didn't like those threads so I didn't post in them. I find this thread legit so I posted in here, instead of being butthurt and ignoring this thread completely just because you created it. When I see people in here that I've argued in the past, I don't disregard their posts or disagree with them just because I don't like them. If I agree with them in a different subject then I'll try to back them up.
Posted by: Helveck
These certain events and occurrences put a damper or even ruin what is otherwise supposed to be an enjoyable visit to an online Community that people should truly invest no emotion in.
I think you should invest some emotion. You just have to be moderate with it. When people make bad threads or annoy me, I don't follow them around and harass them but sometimes I will call them out. I do the same thing in real life. If somebody is doing something I dislike, I'll usually tell them in a respectful manner that they are annoying me. Most of the time people have no idea they are annoying you. I don't expect people to read my mind. I don't do it so much on the internet because I don't know how people will react.
Posted by: Helveck
I always say, never to take people on the Internet seriously. And you shouldn't. As well, you should never invest emotion in it as I just mentioned. There is no reason why you should care what people say or do here because it has no direct impact on your reality outside this place. But people still let things here get to them... Sometimes it gets to them and they leave the site while taking their emotionally charged state with them, others simply get emotional on here, while they're here, but are able to disconnect from their emotions and feelings here, because they've directly removed themselves from the equation. Which is great... Although both occurrences still have an issue, and that is when you return to this place that you are supposed to be enjoying, or using as one of your hobbies and interests, if you're finding yourself in conflict, it could potentially upset or ruin your outlook and feelings towards the purpose of this site.
When I get off this site, I take no emotion with me. The only time I'll leave this site really pissed off is when Mister David decides he wants to make a puzzle.
Posted by: Helveck
I know this sounds cheesy as hell, but we as a Community should always stand united. We gather here under a single banner from our love for games and interest in Bungies future.
In real Community's people don't stand united in a lot of things. They usually have one thing that they are united for but in other aspects they are the exact opposite. I think for must of us we are united by the fact that we like Bungie. But in other things we are the exact opposite.
Posted by: Helveck
I doubt if we all met in a room, we would pick childish fights or start messily little arguments out of anger or differentiating opinions. No, we'd probably shake hands and share stories... Which leads me to believe that this has nothing to do with people genuinely hating other people, or having a really strong invested vendetta against someone, since really and truly, how serious can the things we talk about and fight about be on a gaming forum? To honestly justify poor behavior and confrontation would be impossible here, but yet many of us still find reason to do so...I think it would be safe to assume a large percentage of people here have at one time or another found reason to poke fun at, childishly argue with, belittle or be cruel to, viciously insult, spoken ill of in secret, tried to turn others against, or mocked some person here... For what?Let's take PAX for an example, I wasn't there so I could be completely wrong. On PAX it seemed like everybody was happy and having a good time enjoying each others presence. But that's because PAX was a special occasion and it was only a couple days long. I bet if we meet each other in a room as often as we see each other here people would clash. They probably would be more civil since it's real life and they could get their arse kicked but people would still make fun of others, and clash.
Posted by: Helveck
We find reason to fight, sometimes we believe someone is stupid and wish to boldly or harshly call them out on it. Sometimes we don't agree with someone so we attack them, and not their opinion. Other times people will disagree and take it personally, which causes those people to harbor ill feelings towards one another... But no one knows why.
Honestly I don't see anything wrong with calling people out. The problem is on how you call someone out. If you try to be constructive with your calling out then its good, but if your doing it just to be a jerk then you are just making that person want to be worse.
Posted by: Helveck
I come here to talk to friends, and to sometimes debate. I come here to learn, and laugh and share. Have I been rude and ignorant before? Of course I have. Will I again? Probably, since I am human... Though I do my best to avoid trying to seek out confrontation, I avoid trying to hurt, put down or make fun of other people. I don't try to make enemies, and I could care less if someone hated my guts.
I'm sure everybody in this site has been rude at some point. Sometimes people are having a -blam!- day and they blow off steam here. When I'm pissed about something in real life I try not to come in this site. But if I do get on my tolerance is not the same.
[Edited on 09.26.2012 11:28 PM PDT]