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Subject: Ragnarok: Valhalla remake in Halo 4


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Posted by: ShadowsKiller

Posted by: ShootyNinja95
halo 4 is still a bad game

So you must be from the future! =O What's it like?
Reach 2.0

I mean't the future.

*facepalm*

nvm


[Edited on 10.05.2012 1:40 PM PDT]

  • 10.05.2012 12:29 PM PDT


Posted by: swvjdirector
Why was Guardian requested? It works in MLG Oddball, and that's about it. Sucks for standard TS.

I honestly hope you get hurt because that is complete BS.
As for valhalla im not too bothered itll be fun to see how it plays out, but guardian, construct or narrows would be better in my opinion.

[Edited on 10.05.2012 1:15 PM PDT]

  • 10.05.2012 1:09 PM PDT

"What are we holding on to, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, and it's worth fighting for."


Posted by: Killerboy JJ

Posted by: swvjdirector
Why was Guardian requested? It works in MLG Oddball, and that's about it. Sucks for standard TS.

I honestly hope you get hurt because that is complete BS.
As for valhalla im not too bothered itll be fun to see how it plays out, but guardian, construct or narrows would be better in my opinion.


Um.....you're a Brig grade 2.

How is it BS? Guardian is incredibly standoffish and boring; one side gets the amazing elbow spawn with chances for OS AND Invis, as well as the snipe. The other side spawns blue and has to chill all game. Basically, nothing happens except boring "pop out for a few BR bursts and then hide again" action. In MLG Oddball it works because the OS is removed and it's all about moving around and getting a good setup. In regular TS it gives an immediate advantage to one side and is incredibly boring. Ask Shadowzkiller or any other experienced players; they'll agree.

  • 10.05.2012 3:13 PM PDT

Black Ops 2 I run two accounts warmup only at 1.97kdr...real is at 3.77. i'm in master division 4 league play. pm 4 clan inv...must have 2.5 kdr or better

Guardian is the premier 1v1 map. It's too crowded for 4v4 slayer. I agree with director on this one.

  • 10.05.2012 5:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: shortD42 is aBK

Posted by: thatvoldude219
I would be a happy camper with a Standoff (let's add a sniper in the middle this time) or a Rat's Nest remake.
IKR, why the hell wasn't there a sniper on Standoff.
Bungie stated a few times that they experimented with a sniper rifle on standoff and they came to the conclusion in each of their playthroughs that it was way to OP, and whoever controlled the sniper or had the better sniper always won.

  • 10.05.2012 5:25 PM PDT
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The legendary ending for Halo 4 is Masturcheef and Arby making love.

I'm still in shock that 343i chose Vahalla. I didn't like the map at all. So many places to hide in.

  • 10.05.2012 9:34 PM PDT

Why does my grade matter? Guardian is the best ffa, 2v2 and 1v1 map hands down. Its not all about 4v4, as for 4v4 valhalla is too big and top mid control is too over powered whereas guardian has no overpowered spots due to the several routes to all parts of the map. Tbf i think the best/most experienced players are more likely to agree with my perspective.

so swvjdirector, if you want a 1v1 my gt is Yorkshirez No1

[Edited on 10.06.2012 2:10 PM PDT]

  • 10.06.2012 8:15 AM PDT
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Posted by: swvjdirector
Um.....you're a Brig grade 2.
Oh snap, a tough guy.

  • 10.06.2012 11:07 AM PDT

"What are we holding on to, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, and it's worth fighting for."


Posted by: Killerboy JJ
Why does my grade matter? Guardian is the best ffa, 2v2 and 1v1 map hands down. Its not all about 4v4, as for 4v4 valhalla is too big and top mid control is too over powered whereas guardian has no overpowered spots due to the several routes to all parts of the map. Tbf i think the best/most experienced players are more likely to agree with my perspective.

so swvjdirector, if you want a 1v1 my gt is Yorkshirez No1


How exactly would a 1v1 settle whether or not Guardian is a well-designed map? Your rank matters because if you haven't played hundreds of matches there at 50 high, you probably won't understand what I'm talking about. There's always that one guy, ESPECIALLY at low levels, who just rushes in and screws up all the spawns. If people are just chilling, Guardian is the most boring map ever.

And finally, like I said: Go ask the best players on this forum (ie. Shadowzkiller, when he posts, and a few others) if Guardian is good for TS. Chances are, they'll say no.

  • 10.07.2012 12:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: MisguidedDrake4
I would have preferred to see Zanzibar, Guardian, or Powerhouse remade.


It's a good thing you're not in any position of power, then.

  • 10.07.2012 1:59 PM PDT

I wish they would've remade Guardian, but it looks nice.

  • 10.07.2012 4:06 PM PDT

"What are we holding on to, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, and it's worth fighting for."


Posted by: st3ven9640

Posted by: MisguidedDrake4
I would have preferred to see Zanzibar, Guardian, or Powerhouse remade.


It's a good thing you're not in any position of power, then.


You, sir, just made my day.

  • 10.07.2012 4:32 PM PDT

Posted by: Sentox6

Guess I'll have to defer to your expert and statistically robust estimates :(

I do like your tactic of being deliberately obtuse then accusing me of being stupid when I try to surmise what you're actually saying. Very clever.


Posted by: swvjdirector

Posted by: Killerboy JJ

Posted by: swvjdirector
Why was Guardian requested? It works in MLG Oddball, and that's about it. Sucks for standard TS.

I honestly hope you get hurt because that is complete BS.
As for valhalla im not too bothered itll be fun to see how it plays out, but guardian, construct or narrows would be better in my opinion.


Um.....you're a Brig grade 2.

How is it BS? Guardian is incredibly standoffish and boring; one side gets the amazing elbow spawn with chances for OS AND Invis, as well as the snipe. The other side spawns blue and has to chill all game. Basically, nothing happens except boring "pop out for a few BR bursts and then hide again" action. In MLG Oddball it works because the OS is removed and it's all about moving around and getting a good setup. In regular TS it gives an immediate advantage to one side and is incredibly boring. Ask Shadowzkiller or any other experienced players; they'll agree.


Guardian was a terrible slayer map, horridly unbalanced, if you lost the game while starting elbow, then you were awful!

  • 10.10.2012 1:29 PM PDT

Black Ops 2 I run two accounts warmup only at 1.97kdr...real is at 3.77. i'm in master division 4 league play. pm 4 clan inv...must have 2.5 kdr or better


Posted by: swvjdirector

Posted by: Killerboy JJ
Why does my grade matter? Guardian is the best ffa, 2v2 and 1v1 map hands down. Its not all about 4v4, as for 4v4 valhalla is too big and top mid control is too over powered whereas guardian has no overpowered spots due to the several routes to all parts of the map. Tbf i think the best/most experienced players are more likely to agree with my perspective.

so swvjdirector, if you want a 1v1 my gt is Yorkshirez No1


How exactly would a 1v1 settle whether or not Guardian is a well-designed map? Your rank matters because if you haven't played hundreds of matches there at 50 high, you probably won't understand what I'm talking about. There's always that one guy, ESPECIALLY at low levels, who just rushes in and screws up all the spawns. If people are just chilling, Guardian is the most boring map ever.

And finally, like I said: Go ask the best players on this forum (ie. Shadowzkiller, when he posts, and a few others) if Guardian is good for TS. Chances are, they'll say no.


Guardian is a well designed maps. I feel its odd that most of the forum are TS players because that playlist was known as being least competitive at level 50. Guardian was a good doubles map and by far the best map in halo for 1v1s. FFA it was solid as well, but with BRs start of course.

  • 10.10.2012 5:10 PM PDT

Black Ops 2 I run two accounts warmup only at 1.97kdr...real is at 3.77. i'm in master division 4 league play. pm 4 clan inv...must have 2.5 kdr or better

I just want to point out all the flaws of Guardian are the same as Blackout. Blackout is even worse for competitve play. I once had a 8-6 score 12 minute game at level 45-50 TS on that she devil. My only kills were a clean up BR and a lucky stick. I couldn't move because it would get me into a teamshot. It really just ended up being two teams throwing nades across the map with everyone hiding for like 10 minutes of the game.

It was one of my worst experiences of Halo 3. At high level, top spawn always wins. Lockout for some reason was a bit better...although still not a huge fan of it.

[Edited on 10.10.2012 5:16 PM PDT]

  • 10.10.2012 5:13 PM PDT

"What are we holding on to, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, and it's worth fighting for."


Posted by: HRA SLICE

Posted by: swvjdirector

Posted by: Killerboy JJ

Posted by: swvjdirector
Why was Guardian requested? It works in MLG Oddball, and that's about it. Sucks for standard TS.

I honestly hope you get hurt because that is complete BS.
As for valhalla im not too bothered itll be fun to see how it plays out, but guardian, construct or narrows would be better in my opinion.


Um.....you're a Brig grade 2.

How is it BS? Guardian is incredibly standoffish and boring; one side gets the amazing elbow spawn with chances for OS AND Invis, as well as the snipe. The other side spawns blue and has to chill all game. Basically, nothing happens except boring "pop out for a few BR bursts and then hide again" action. In MLG Oddball it works because the OS is removed and it's all about moving around and getting a good setup. In regular TS it gives an immediate advantage to one side and is incredibly boring. Ask Shadowzkiller or any other experienced players; they'll agree.


Guardian was a terrible slayer map, horridly unbalanced, if you lost the game while starting elbow, then you were awful!


Yep. Some people I've seen even rage quit if they spawned Blue. Why play on, anyway? It just sucks.

  • 10.11.2012 7:02 AM PDT

"What are we holding on to, Sam?"
"That there's some good in this world, and it's worth fighting for."


Posted by: shortD42 is aBK
I just want to point out all the flaws of Guardian are the same as Blackout. Blackout is even worse for competitve play. I once had a 8-6 score 12 minute game at level 45-50 TS on that she devil. My only kills were a clean up BR and a lucky stick. I couldn't move because it would get me into a teamshot. It really just ended up being two teams throwing nades across the map with everyone hiding for like 10 minutes of the game.

It was one of my worst experiences of Halo 3. At high level, top spawn always wins. Lockout for some reason was a bit better...although still not a huge fan of it.


Yeah, to me, Blackout plays almost exactly the same way as Guardian. Hurr durrr BR 3 and S2-S3 all GAEM........Seriously, SO BORING.

  • 10.11.2012 7:04 AM PDT

Black Ops 2 I run two accounts warmup only at 1.97kdr...real is at 3.77. i'm in master division 4 league play. pm 4 clan inv...must have 2.5 kdr or better

Is anyone interested in some Valhalla customs prior to Halo 4?

  • 10.13.2012 12:31 PM PDT


Posted by: swvjdirector
Okay, so out of ALL the maps they could have remade, they chose VALHALLA?! Seriously, they could have picked a decent map, like The Pit. I guess Valhalla is better than the countless Blood Gulch remakes, but still! VALHALLA! Even Standoff would have been a better choice!

Sorry, I just hate this map.


I'm a big BTB player so I love Valhalla. It's next to High Ground as my favourite map. I know High Ground isn't the best but I like the uphill stuggle/defense tactics you have to use. It's just a fun map.

  • 10.14.2012 7:47 PM PDT

Posted by: AngryBrute1
Oh yeah, since somebody does not believe what YOU believe; that makes us vapid...
I cannot grasp that what you call "Something happened to nothing, and that nothing became something, and it was smaller than than a period."

I liked that map. I can't wait to try it out.

  • 10.14.2012 7:56 PM PDT

I am a Forerunner on halo reach! 2 more ranks to go! :)

By the way i am NOT in UEG anymore!

The remake of valhalla looks so cool i cant wait to play H4!

  • 10.15.2012 2:56 AM PDT

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