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Do not waste your tears, I was not born to watch the world grow dim. Life is not measured in years, but by the deeds of men.
Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.
Posted by: ROBERTO jh
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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
A fairer fight would be the ancients being included, which they totally are.
But 40K vs. Halo is one of those fights that is forced as a tie. Chaos Gods vs. Precursors is an undecidable fight, though Nurgle might be defeated. The other three are as immune to damage as far as I know, and the Precursors are likewise (which is why Nurgle could be defeated since nothing in the Precursor universe decays).
You are forgetting the C'tan. They are flat out stated to have complete power in the material universe and are part of the fundamental forces of reality. The Necrons harnessed the power of the living universe to make WMDs. The Men of Gold were able to create a dark matter gun that created black holes on a whim and chrono-weaponry that shifted a target a nanosecond into the past causing it to destroy itself. Nurgle isn't chained just to decay, the Flood are right up in Nurgle's sphere of influence.
My point in the end though is you have two groups of immortal, god-like beings that are both expressly stated to be undeatable by anything other than something unique to their universe fighting each other. Saying that one wold win over the other is simply to announce your status as a fan of that universe. The Nurgle thing was more of a passing thought, a musing on what would happen if the rules of the two universes were combined, which I don't necessarily assume to be true.
A fair point. I personally think that Precursors should not be included because all we know of them is that they are old, good at genetics, build nice structures, and have a connection with the Flood. I'm saying 40k would win not just because I am a fan but because the Precursors are connected to the living universe and 40k has the living universe trope too and has often demonstrated that it is manipulated.
I know, but that starts to break down when you get into the specifics of how each universe works and relates. And then even the pre-established canon quite clearly stating that nothing can break a Precursor structure other than a Halo, and by extension, any other Precursor-made weaponry/technology, which can evidently be used only by a Precursor. As soon as you suggest something else killing them off you violate canon in some way.
Same notion for the Chaos gods and deamons. Only thing that can defeat them is the Emperor, the god of order. Discussing how the Precursors would relate in might to the Chaos gods is as pointless as trying to comprehend Cthulu or any of his ilk. The word incomprehensible exists for a reason.
A good point, but when has Precursor weaponry ever been touched on? Where did you get Big E being the god of order as well? I have never heard of that outside of some fan theories.
@Janaka: To answer your earlier question, the equivalent of a Galaxy busting weapon would be the Celestial Orrey. It is a hollow planet controlled by the Necrons. Inside it is a map of the galaxy with every star represented. By snuffing out the star in the galaxy map the associated star in the Milky Way would go supernova. The reason it is not used more often is because the resident Necrons are worried that it may be abused and are trying to protect it from several other groups.
To answer your current question; the Orks are arguably the least technologically advanced species on the map currently, but they regularily win because of their absolutely astounding numbers, toughness, reproduction, and their ability to warp reality to a minor degree (such as making vehicles painted red go faster even if the same vehicle could not normally reach that speed).
[Edited on 09.27.2012 4:43 PM PDT]