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Subject: What about that big part of the galaxy that doesn't get blasted?

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I couldn't find any other threads about this, but remember in Halo CE when you blew up halo. Well since it's blown up, then it doesn't work, and if it doesn't work, then everything within it's 25,000 light-year range won't get wiped clean of sentient life. I don't know if you know this, but that's alot of empty space where the Flood or Covenant or Humans could be safe, right? Could this big "hole" in the halo grid affect the Halo 3 plot, or does it even matter? Just wondering if anyone knew or had any good theories.

  • 06.25.2006 3:56 PM PDT

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Depends on which halo is 'sploded....

Here's my interpretation of where the halos are. To my mind Alpha halo is the one in the middle... so even if it's gone Not only is earth still covered but the only safe place is at the centre of the galaxy...

Of course that's all assuming that the halos act individually and all have the same range... which i'm not too sure about...

Still, you're right there is a quite sizeable amount of space to be safe in...

-Stu

  • 06.25.2006 4:00 PM PDT
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Why would the flood infest human planet,was no ships there to flee it :P

  • 06.25.2006 4:02 PM PDT

If I remember correctly at sompoint in the game it was said that each Halo has a radius of 3 galaxies, so the entire galaxy should be covered. However, if that's true, then why 7 Halos for 1 galaxy?

  • 06.25.2006 4:02 PM PDT

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I've always looked for a picture that put the halo's and galaxy to scale. Thanks sleepystephen.

And that's a good point BlockBurner. Maybe each halo has a blast radius of 3 galactic radii, so it covers the whole galaxy, but each halo's blast is too weak to kill stuff on it's own, so it has to rely on the other 6 for help.

  • 06.25.2006 4:09 PM PDT

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Each halo has a radius of 25,000 light years... Together they have an effective range of 3 radii.... although we don't know if thats Galactic Radii or not.


-Stu

  • 06.25.2006 4:11 PM PDT

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343 said "this installation's pulse has a maximum effective radius of 25000 light years", meaning 25000 light years is specific to the halo in Halo CE, so the other rings could have different ranges. He also said "all additional sentient life in 3 radii of the galactic center died".

  • 06.25.2006 4:24 PM PDT

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personay I think that hes on to something, because then what if cortana managaes to destroy delta halo? just What if? then theres another big chunk missing...

  • 06.25.2006 4:28 PM PDT

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343 said "this installation's pulse has a maximum effective radius of 25000 light years", meaning 25000 light years is specific to the halo in Halo CE, so the other rings could have different ranges. He also said "all additional sentient life in 3 radii of the galactic center died".


That is true... he may have only been talking about that particular halo... without any evidence to the contrary it's logical to assume that the halos have the same radius...

But he still doesn't say what the radii are relative to... we can only speculate that he means the galaxy, but it could be the radius of the halos effect...

-Stu

  • 06.25.2006 4:30 PM PDT

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That's true...

And why does the end cutscene between 343, Arbiter, Johnson and Miranda show 7 rings in the hologram, when one of them was destroyed; shouldn't it only show 6? If the hologram always shows 7, even if one is destroyed, then maybe 1 or 2 other halos have been destroyed besides the one you blew up and there are other holes (crazy, i know, but just speculation)

  • 06.25.2006 4:39 PM PDT

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I believe that one of them has a red mark beside it... which most of us assume is Alpha Halo...

As for the possible destruction of other halos... read one of Opogs threads... i believe he has one floating about called Clones and Lies... it's long but..... interesting...

-Stu

  • 06.25.2006 4:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: BlockBurner
If I remember correctly at sompoint in the game it was said that each Halo has a radius of 3 galaxies, so the entire galaxy should be covered. However, if that's true, then why 7 Halos for 1 galaxy?

no that was never said

  • 06.25.2006 4:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sleepystephen
Depends on which halo is 'sploded....

Her e's my interpretation of where the halos are. To my mind Alpha halo is the one in the middle... so even if it's gone Not only is earth still covered but the only safe place is at the centre of the galaxy...

Of course that's all assuming that the halos act individually and all have the same range... which i'm not too sure about...

Still, you're right there is a quite sizeable amount of space to be safe in...

-Stu


In the center of our galaxy is a supper masisive black hole, although I think its dourment.

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I remember in the hologram one of the rings had something wrong with it, i can't remember what, it might have been red or had writing and an arrow pointint to it, I'm not sure, but I do remember something was different about one of them

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If one can kill in a 3 galactic radius why would there b 7 rings? hmmm? 1 ring to kill them all? (hehe sounds like LOTR) I think the guy i right there has to be a safe place i teh galaxy why would ther be 7 rings to one galaxy.

  • 06.25.2006 5:19 PM PDT

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I just watched the cutscene where it shows all of the Halos and only one has a red thing pointing to it. So i guess only one has been destroyed...so far.

  • 06.25.2006 5:29 PM PDT

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If one can kill in a 3 galactic radius why would there b 7 rings? hmmm? 1 ring to kill them all? (hehe sounds like LOTR) I think the guy i right there has to be a safe place i teh galaxy why would ther be 7 rings to one galaxy.


What 343 says is:

"Once the others (rings) follow suit, this galaxy will be quite devoid of life, at least any with sufficient biomass to sustain the flood."

He also says that once all of the rings fire, all sentient life from three radii of the galactic center will be eliminated. Not one ring, all of them together.

  • 06.25.2006 5:34 PM PDT

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So, have we made any conclusions or theories yet? Because i'm still kinda wondering if this hole is important.

  • 06.25.2006 6:45 PM PDT

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  • 06.25.2006 6:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: BlockBurner
If I remember correctly at sompoint in the game it was said that each Halo has a radius of 3 galaxies, so the entire galaxy should be covered. However, if that's true, then why 7 Halos for 1 galaxy?


The radious of one Halo isn't enaugh to destroy all sentient life in the galaxy, so when one halo is activated, it activates all the other ones, and than they explode and whipe out sections until every section is kill-afied.

  • 06.25.2006 7:21 PM PDT
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the theory here is that the forunners are still alive.

Something else is what if the forunners went outside the blast zone of all the halos, because they didn't want anyone else living because they're super- powerish, or something.

just a thought

  • 06.25.2006 7:30 PM PDT
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I've been thinking about this for awhile, too. This whole idea about the empty space left by Installation 04. I'm somewhere along the lines of finishing a whole analyzes of the matter, and going beyond. I'll post it when I'm done. But so far, all I can say is, we don't know much of how the Halos truly work, so we can't really jump to any conclusions as of yet.

  • 06.25.2006 7:46 PM PDT

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I don't think the Forerunners went outside the halos' reach since 343 specifically said "they (forerunners) and all additional sentient life died" after the halos activated last time.

I guess we really can't jump to conclusions, but it is fun to theorize. And Pepeu i'm looking foreward to reading your theory about this, once you finish.

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I belive that what 343 Guilty Spark said, "they and all additional sentient life died," is untrue. Why? Well, consider this: If the Forerunners had died along with all sentient life, how could the have (as it seems) preset the Reclaimers and programmed the Installations' monitors to recongnize them? Unless they were so advanced to foresee the future, and that monkeys would evolve into humans, there is no other possible explanation. And if they were that advanced, and couldn't figure a way to destroy the Flood, then the overall plot of Halo is pretty much pointless. What I'm starting to think after reading so many theories, and etc. around this Forum is that the Forerunners... well, you will have to wait until I formulate my thesis and have enough facts and evidence to support it. I'm starting to think like Darwin, hope that helps me. Anywhom, I'm will be reading the novels soon, and taking notes on everything that seems to be, as of yet, cloaked in mystery, and try to solve and put together the Halo. I believe that by tieing all the loose ends, and solving every plot, covering every hole from the beginning (The Fall of Reach) to the end (the Halo 3 trailer), I may just figure out what the Forerunners were, why they took such extreme measures against the Flood, how the rings really work, and thus prove the "Chaos Theory" that has involved Halo. I hope to be able to gather all my thesis, facts, and solutions soon enough. Until then, you interested in it, be patient. I think I may be onto something really big.

  • 06.25.2006 8:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sleepystephen
Depends on which halo is 'sploded....

Her e's my interpretation of where the halos are. To my mind Alpha halo is the one in the middle... so even if it's gone Not only is earth still covered but the only safe place is at the centre of the galaxy...

Of course that's all assuming that the halos act individually and all have the same range... which i'm not too sure about...

Still, you're right there is a quite sizeable amount of space to be safe in...

-Stu


In the center of our galaxy is a supper masisive black hole, although I think its dourment.


There's no such thing as a dorment black hole.

  • 06.25.2006 8:36 PM PDT

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