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Subject: Private information theft. How should I contact Microsoft?

"We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds...'
I suppose we all thought that one way or another."
- J. Robert Oppenheimer

So here's the deal.
Another Xbox LIVE member is threatening to contact lawyers right now, and find out my phone number and home address. Why? Well sadly, it's Halo clan drama. Once upon a time, I used to be admin of a clan called Sangheili Eminence. Drama got pretty bad so eventually I retired from all of it, and shut the websites I created down.

This guy, the leader or "Imperial Admiral" and a former clanmate, claims to have legal rights over the name Sangheili Eminence. Multiple times the past year or so he has threatened to call his "lawyer" numerous times on different people for using the name he supposedly has "intellectual property" rights to.

It's pretty sad, I know...but that's why I avoid clans now. My last few months in clans involved a lot of people trying to hack each other because of trivial disputes, and it's an issue that should probably be taken care of because things get pretty ridiculous.

Here's screenshots from the conversation:
Primary assault
Conversation on my personal profile after he was banned from the website

And the links, though some of the comments were deleted...
The homepage
Specifically the comments here.

Now normally I'd brush this all off and not care. I know he's a minor, and I'm sure all the stuff about his supposed lawyer is all fake. But problem is that in the past he has been successful in retrieving passwords, phone numbers, and even addresses. To prevent anything from happening again, and to me, I'm putting this out into the public because I'm not entirely sure what to do but I'm sure the mods or experienced members here could help out with some advice or something.


Please guys, help me out.

  • 10.01.2012 10:28 PM PDT
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Don't judge a book by its cover, unless it has bacon on the cover, then it is a good book.

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well not here, thats for sure

  • 10.01.2012 10:31 PM PDT

Posted by: borrowedchief
We aren't here to ruin your experience (Well Qbix is).

You wouldn't happen to have any of his personal contact info, would you?

[Edited on 10.01.2012 10:36 PM PDT]

  • 10.01.2012 10:35 PM PDT

"We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds...'
I suppose we all thought that one way or another."
- J. Robert Oppenheimer


Posted by: R0flc0pt3r
You wouldn't happen to have any of his personal contact info, right?

Once upon a time we had each other's facebooks but his old account was shut down over a year ago. He doesn't have any of that information, and back then I didn't share much on it.

  • 10.01.2012 10:37 PM PDT
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  • Honorable Member

Try xbox.com.

  • 10.01.2012 10:38 PM PDT

Owning Noobs Since 05

"I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming in terror like his passengers."

Jim Harkins

What I got from this is, you're scared he'll get the info for your account. You can add security proofs to your account. Even if he somehow gets your account (Which I doubt) he won't go very far that's for sure. Bungie has nothing to do with your WLID so they wouldn't be able to help you at all, you are in the wrong place.

Also please don't bring your off site drama here.

  • 10.01.2012 10:38 PM PDT

"We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds...'
I suppose we all thought that one way or another."
- J. Robert Oppenheimer


Posted by: KDR
Try xbox.com.

Well...for once that's probably a good suggestion.
I'll repost this there though I've never really use that forum before.

  • 10.01.2012 10:39 PM PDT

"We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds...'
I suppose we all thought that one way or another."
- J. Robert Oppenheimer


Posted by: Verachi
What I got from this is, you're scared he'll get the info for your account. You can add security proofs to your account. Even if he somehow gets your account (Which I doubt) he won't go very far that's for sure. Bungie has nothing to do with your WLID so they wouldn't be able to help you at all, you are in the wrong place.

Also please don't bring your off site drama here.

All of this originated from the Classifieds. There's a lot of shady things that happen in the background from some of the drama that goes on there. It's a serious problem that needs to be addressed.

  • 10.01.2012 10:41 PM PDT
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Well, for starters you can remind him that Microsoft owns the name "Sangheilli" since it is a Halo-related indicia of which they own the rights to entirely, so he can't claim intellectual property for something that is already owned by Microsoft.

So... yeah...

Sorry, not really sure of what else to recommend other than to ignore him or seek your own legal advice for added protection.

But I feel like it's nothing but empty threats, so I wouldn't worry too much about it..***


***Disclaimer: Not official legal advice and should not be taken as such. I will not be held liable for any damages resulting from taking this advice.

  • 10.01.2012 10:43 PM PDT

So this little fellow decided to message me since I'm sticking up for my friend here, and he starts off with this:

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/Forbes_72/Apex1.png

"Cute how you're both gossiping, the manbeast with a useless art degre (*degree) and the boy with down's syndrome, losers."

My response: "umad"

His response:

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/Forbes_72/Apex2.png

Message 1: "I'm so mad, I'm angrily typing on plastic keys. Grrr. /sarcasm.

My response: Mad enough to try and steal someone's information because you're butthurt about this.

Message 2: lol I'm going to enjoy putting Nuka into debt

My response: Good luck, hope that phantom lawyer loves an ass-kicking because you're upset over a video game.

He replies oh-so-smoothly with: http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/Forbes_72/Apex3.png

Obviously not going to re-type it because of his beautiful vulgarity.

Responded with: Cute, even if cliche and pathetic.

Honestly I think you all get the picture now, so to sum up the rest of his messages, he pretty much just calls me a "f--got furry", and took off from messaging because the little tyke has SAT's.

Pretty much, the point of this message is to help the admins understand what kind of guy he is, etc. Like Jaxbug said, he's successfully managed to retrieve passwords and information from people before and spread it around the internet, so I'm acting as a concerned person helping out his friend.

  • 10.01.2012 10:45 PM PDT

"We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds...'
I suppose we all thought that one way or another."
- J. Robert Oppenheimer


Posted by: AH4L
Well, for starters you can remind him that Microsoft owns the name "Sangheilli" since it is a Halo-related indicia of which they own the rights to entirely, so he can't claim intellectual property for something that is already owned by Microsoft.

I've made that argument in the past when he threatened someone else. I wish I saved the conversation.

  • 10.01.2012 10:45 PM PDT

Posted by: borrowedchief
We aren't here to ruin your experience (Well Qbix is).


Posted by: AH4L
Well, for starters you can remind him that Microsoft owns the name "Sangheilli" since it is a Halo-related indicia of which they own the rights to entirely, so he can't claim intellectual property for something that is already owned by Microsoft.

So... yeah...

Sorry, not really sure of what else to recommend other than to ignore him or seek your own legal advice for added protection.

But I feel like it's nothing but empty threats, so I wouldn't worry too much about it..***


***Disclaimer: Not official legal advice and should not be taken as such. I will not be held liable for any damages resulting from taking this advice.
Exactly. He's just butthurt about what you did. Don't let him get to you.

Also I agree with what AH4L said. How can he claim legal property of something that is already owned?

  • 10.01.2012 10:47 PM PDT

"We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds...'
I suppose we all thought that one way or another."
- J. Robert Oppenheimer

I can't sign into xbox.com

edit//
Changed my password and I can get back in again. For whatever reason B.net and hotmail worked, but I couldn't get into xbox.com. Hopefully it was just a coincidence.

[Edited on 10.01.2012 10:55 PM PDT]

  • 10.01.2012 10:48 PM PDT

Owning Noobs Since 05

"I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming in terror like his passengers."

Jim Harkins

Posted by: JaxBug
I can't sign into xbox.com

You should be able to.... Since you are already signed in to Bungie.net all you have to do is click on sign in on xbox.com and it will automatically sign you in.

Looks like you are new to xbox.com

Here is the support forums.

It seems that you are worried about your account so I suggest you post on forum 03 - Managing my Xbox LIVE account

[Edited on 10.01.2012 10:53 PM PDT]

  • 10.01.2012 10:53 PM PDT

"We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds...'
I suppose we all thought that one way or another."
- J. Robert Oppenheimer

It was all a bluff.
Mods can lock this. I'm still taking this up to Microsoft though.

  • 10.01.2012 11:02 PM PDT

Just a quick FYI clearing your cache and cookies will fix any sign in errors on WLID sites like B.net or Xbox.com.

For future reference though, I'd recommend changing your password and adding security proofs as the others said. :)

  • 10.01.2012 11:06 PM PDT

"We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds...'
I suppose we all thought that one way or another."
- J. Robert Oppenheimer


Posted by: LordOfBlah51
Just a quick FYI clearing your cache and cookies will fix any sign in errors on WLID sites like B.net or Xbox.com.

For future reference though, I'd recommend changing your password and adding security proofs as the others said. :)

Thanks.
Changing my password was the first thing I did, but proofs I didn't know about. Just trying to be safe.

  • 10.01.2012 11:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: DEATHPIMP72
Anyone but Foman. He smells like cheese.

I'm sorry but this is not a Bungie or Bungie.net issue. Regardless of where the problem initiated, this is not the proper place to discuss it. Feel free to repost this in the Flood Forum or, even better, over on the Xbox LIVE forums.

But honestly, if I were you, I'd just ignore him.

  • 10.01.2012 11:09 PM PDT