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Subject: About The Thursday war book.

So I just got to the part of the book where Parangosky is talking to Hood and he knows that Halsey is still alive? And he agrees with her?! The Faqk!? The hell Hood sent sent Blue team to onxy because Halsey said that there was Forerunner tech and he got a lot more then anyone could have wished for.




What do you think of this verse?


[Edited on 10.02.2012 8:32 AM PDT]

  • 10.02.2012 8:25 AM PDT

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I'm confused on what you're asking. Halsey is alive.

  • 10.02.2012 8:39 AM PDT


Posted by: DarkestSeptagon
I'm confused on what you're asking. Halsey is alive.
I've known that Halsey is alive. What I don't get is Lord hood knows that she's alive and agrees with what Margret is doing to Halsey. It was Lord Hood that sent Blue Team to onxy and I'm damn sure he already know about Kelly, so it makes no sense why Hood is on Margret's side.

  • 10.02.2012 8:43 AM PDT

Wait, seriously?

Lord Hood knows Halsey is in prison and Parangosky basically did it "For the lulz" (aka, getting back at something which is pointless to rage over in the long long run)... and is "Yeah, cool."

Ugh. The Travissty continues.

(Especially since when Halsey came out of Onyx, there was a treasure chest of forerunner tech. Therefore the message asking for spartans was not a lie. so arresting for that reason cannot happen.)

[Edited on 10.02.2012 8:56 AM PDT]

  • 10.02.2012 8:49 AM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Wait, seriously?

Lord Hood knows Halsey is in prison and Parangosky basically did it "For the lulz" (aka, getting back at something which is pointless to rage over in the long long run)... and is "Yeah, cool."

Ugh. The Travissty continues.

(Especially since when Halsey came out of Onyx, there was a treasure chest of forerunner tech. Therefore the message asking for spartans was not a lie. so arresting for that reason cannot happen.)
Yea. Also another -blam!- up is that Hood seems to know about the Kilo-Five mission now.

  • 10.02.2012 9:01 AM PDT

So how bad is the book? lol.

Merely curious. Since the last one saw such a good response.

[Edited on 10.02.2012 9:21 AM PDT]

  • 10.02.2012 9:20 AM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
So how bad is the book? lol.

Merely curious. Since the last one saw such a good response.
Spartan 010 knows her daddy is a terrorist, Hood knows that Halsey is alive and is on Margets side, Brutes use terrorist actions and they got it from us humans even though it pretty much stopped during the human-covie war, Hood pretty much oked kilo-five going in to save Phillips because if he didn't Margret would do it anyways and told him so even though Hood is the commander in cheif of all UNSC and ONI is part of the UNSC and could have had her arrested since you know, it might start another war. And all of this in the first 80 pages of a 400 page book.

  • 10.02.2012 9:29 AM PDT
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While it's not a big one, you should put spoiler alert at the top of your post. I'm picking up the book this afternoon.

Cheers :)

  • 10.02.2012 11:00 AM PDT

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nvm. What's this about ONI's grain that they are going to give the Sangheili?

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Wait, seriously?

Lord Hood knows Halsey is in prison and Parangosky basically did it "For the lulz" (aka, getting back at something which is pointless to rage over in the long long run)... and is "Yeah, cool."

Ugh. The Travissty continues.

(Especially since when Halsey came out of Onyx, there was a treasure chest of forerunner tech. Therefore the message asking for spartans was not a lie. so arresting for that reason cannot happen.)


First Reach, now the novels. It's getting hard to stay attached to the Haloverse when the canon gets stepped on along with any common sense.

  • 10.02.2012 2:47 PM PDT
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This is basically what we see in every sci fi franchise.

When the bad guys do it:

"Bad, evil"

When the good guys do it:

"Cunning, intelligent"

Referring to a lot of the events in the book, especially one that is so hypocritical looking back at the war you would think that ONI are mad war mongering fools.

  • 10.02.2012 3:04 PM PDT


Posted by: Sandtrap

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Wait, seriously?

Lord Hood knows Halsey is in prison and Parangosky basically did it "For the lulz" (aka, getting back at something which is pointless to rage over in the long long run)... and is "Yeah, cool."

Ugh. The Travissty continues.

(Especially since when Halsey came out of Onyx, there was a treasure chest of forerunner tech. Therefore the message asking for spartans was not a lie. so arresting for that reason cannot happen.)


First Reach, now the novels. It's getting hard to stay attached to the Haloverse when the canon gets stepped on along with any common sense.


Glasslands Trilogy is the only problem so far. Forerunner Saga is awesome...the books 343i put out before then were, like Halo Evolutions...dunno about Halo 4 yet in terms of story...but I think it's a bit silly to talk of abandoning Halo when it's just one author who's -blam!- everything up :/

  • 10.02.2012 3:19 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Wait, seriously?

Lord Hood knows Halsey is in prison and Parangosky basically did it "For the lulz" (aka, getting back at something which is pointless to rage over in the long long run)... and is "Yeah, cool."




Having yet to read the book, I can't say anything. But this post, again, ignores how the characters have been presented in the Haloverse. Parangosky is infamous for killing or destroying the lives of those who cross her, making her one of the most vengeful -blam!-es in the galaxy ("only one person has ever crossed her and lived"). And you're saying that it is ruining it, and that Parangosky is retarded, for acting fully in character?

She's a huge grudge holder that has lived with near infinite political power nearly her whole adult life. And you're mad that she's acting on those traits.

Makes sense. What also makes sense is you automatically assuming Hood has no reason. Stroke of genius right there.

[Edited on 10.02.2012 3:50 PM PDT]

  • 10.02.2012 3:49 PM PDT

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This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Posted by: AH4L
While it's not a big one, you should put spoiler alert at the top of your post. I'm picking up the book this afternoon.

Cheers :)


I agree, but then again, the book came out today. It's obvious as hell there are going to be spoilers in the thread. Just sayin'.


OP: I have yet to receive my book from Amazon, I imagine I will get it shortly, so for now I can't give my opinion on it, but I'm sure it's going to be a lot of complaints being blown out of proportions as it was with Glasslands.

  • 10.02.2012 3:56 PM PDT

I am a monument to all your sins

Halsey did create those clones without permission. That's misuse of resources, and doing something highly illegal an unethical with them, even if the whole project was like that, at least she was authorized to do the rest of it. She also kidnapped a Spartan and high-jacked a military vessel. That is why she is being detained, and that is why Hood is OK with it. I honestly like the book so far.

  • 10.02.2012 3:56 PM PDT


Posted by: Darthbill99
Halsey did create those clones without permission. That's misuse of resources, and doing something highly illegal an unethical with them, even if the whole project was like that, at least she was authorized to do the rest of it. She also kidnapped a Spartan and high-jacked a military vessel. That is why she is being detained, and that is why Hood is OK with it. I honestly like the book so far.


BULL--blam!---blam!-!!!!!!!!! The flash clones were ALWAYS part of the plan, the only place this is at all changed is in Karen Traviss' pile of fething nonesense, the woman did not do any research ever and knows nothing of the actual Halo lore. And even if they weren't cleared by Parangosky, the little old hag still has no right to complain about anything whatsoever because even as much as she thinks she is, she really isn't the law and end all and be all of the UNSC and highest authority there is, nor was she the only one in charge of the Spartan Project, Parangosky was one small cog in the whole process. The flash-cloning of 75+ kids and then dispersing them to their homes is not something that'd be able to be kept a secret and is absolutely not, and never was, something Halsey did in secret and all on her own. And you know what, the Spartan Project wasn't even Halsey's brainchild either, that was ONI's, they were the ones who came up with the idea after the Orion Project was deemed a failure and discontinued, they were the ones who approached Halsey about heading up the project and managing it, they were the ones who outlined the general plan (kidnapping kids, replacing them with flash-clones to prevent anyone wising up to the mass disappearance, training them, gathering the materials for armor and augmentations, etc.) and everything else.

Hah! Hahahahahahabahabahahahoohooheheheehee....whoo-boy, you're a scream, ya know that? What military vessel? Oh, you mean that glorified luxury shuttle the leader of Insurrectionist faction had? Hah! Since when has that ever been a "military vessel" or something that the UNSC owned, hmmm? That was the rebels and who Halsey stole it from. And no, she is not being held illegally against her will as a slave because she took Kelly to Onyx (need I also mention that the Spartans have NEVER -blam!-. BEEN. BLOODY. UNSC. PROPERTY at. all!!!!!! ....do you want me to -blam!- repeat myself??!?!?! The Spartans have never been "owned" by the UNSC or ONI, they are personnel of the UNSC and that is only and always how they have been treated, and only that, they are not slaves or mindless robots), she's being illegally held without trial and being forced into slave labor and having every single human right on the book violated by ONI because Parangosky (Traviss' blessed little Mary-Sue saint who's never done a single thing wrong) is petty, vindictive, little -blam!- who's holding a grudge and doing it for -blam!-z and giggles because she apparently didn't know about the flash-clones (which I already proved is frakking nonesense) and is now exercising her pettiness. And no, Hood is a-okay with it because Karen Travissty does not understand one single thing about the Halo lore and is reshaping it into her own deranged image and making Lord Hood a little docile and submissive lapdog just so she can have her little Mary-Sues do whatever she thinks is right and so she can "punish" everyone who ever did wrong at all. Honestly, I think Karen Traviss should probably be fired and go back to writing original fiction (her style is good and from that sort of standpoint I enjoy Glasslands, the formula sort of stuff), or placed on the tightest leash imaginable and have her work proofread a thousand times over by someone who actually knows the lore and gives a damn about it.

  • 10.02.2012 7:56 PM PDT


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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Wait, seriously?

Lord Hood knows Halsey is in prison and Parangosky basically did it "For the lulz" (aka, getting back at something which is pointless to rage over in the long long run)... and is "Yeah, cool."




Having yet to read the book, I can't say anything. But this post, again, ignores how the characters have been presented in the Haloverse. Parangosky is infamous for killing or destroying the lives of those who cross her, making her one of the most vengeful -blam!-es in the galaxy ("only one person has ever crossed her and lived"). And you're saying that it is ruining it, and that Parangosky is retarded, for acting fully in character?

She's a huge grudge holder that has lived with near infinite political power nearly her whole adult life. And you're mad that she's acting on those traits.

Makes sense. What also makes sense is you automatically assuming Hood has no reason. Stroke of genius right there.


When Ackerson openly mocked/bashed Halsey and the spartans (when they assumed they were all dead) Hood verbally -blam!-slapped Ackerson into place and defended both.

She has never had "Near infinite political power" outside of ONI. Before glasslands she answered to the admiral board, not everybody answered to her.

Parangosky is retarded because her ACTIONS ARE RETARDED.

  • 10.02.2012 8:05 PM PDT

If you're passionate about the thing you're talking about, I'll always lend an ear.

I wouldn't be surprised if the story had Halsey go through a sex change and use a civilian variant of the MJOLNIR armour to hide herself from ONI while working in an underground Halo.

All the while the Elites are pillanging and making humans their pet slaves in colony planets one by one. With CerberONI making a contingency plan to indoctrinate the Brute youths through free education and healthcare all the way up to university [Welcome to the good life] to pass around propaganda at the Elites.

Meanwhile Master Chief has been cloned several times, as a safe measure agaisnt atheism that is prevalent during this galactic scientific age. The second coming of Christ is announced as Cheif returns to Earth after the apocalytic events of Halo 4,5 and 6, but this time, his armour upgrades are beyond MJOLNIR, they turn into this MANTIS MECH VII, this variant is 3000 ft tall.

All must bow down to Master Jesus Cheif 117.

In recognition of Halsey recent persecution she is seen in the same light as the Virgin Mary... turned man.

Faith is finally restored. The Halo church gets busy and begins the new new testiment of greater great journey.

  • 10.03.2012 5:07 AM PDT

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Posted by: Darthbill99
Halsey did create those clones without permission. That's misuse of resources, and doing something highly illegal an unethical with them, even if the whole project was like that, at least she was authorized to do the rest of it. She also kidnapped a Spartan and high-jacked a military vessel. That is why she is being detained, and that is why Hood is OK with it. I honestly like the book so far.


BULL--blam!---blam!-!!!!!!!!! The flash clones were ALWAYS part of the plan, the only place this is at all changed is in Karen Traviss' pile of fething nonesense, the woman did not do any research ever and knows nothing of the actual Halo lore. And even if they weren't cleared by Parangosky, the little old hag still has no right to complain about anything whatsoever because even as much as she thinks she is, she really isn't the law and end all and be all of the UNSC and highest authority there is, nor was she the only one in charge of the Spartan Project, Parangosky was one small cog in the whole process. The flash-cloning of 75+ kids and then dispersing them to their homes is not something that'd be able to be kept a secret and is absolutely not, and never was, something Halsey did in secret and all on her own. And you know what, the Spartan Project wasn't even Halsey's brainchild either, that was ONI's, they were the ones who came up with the idea after the Orion Project was deemed a failure and discontinued, they were the ones who approached Halsey about heading up the project and managing it, they were the ones who outlined the general plan (kidnapping kids, replacing them with flash-clones to prevent anyone wising up to the mass disappearance, training them, gathering the materials for armor and augmentations, etc.) and everything else.

Hah! Hahahahahahabahabahahahoohooheheheehee....whoo-boy, you're a scream, ya know that? What military vessel? Oh, you mean that glorified luxury shuttle the leader of Insurrectionist faction had? Hah! Since when has that ever been a "military vessel" or something that the UNSC owned, hmmm? That was the rebels and who Halsey stole it from. And no, she is not being held illegally against her will as a slave because she took Kelly to Onyx (need I also mention that the Spartans have NEVER -blam!-. BEEN. BLOODY. UNSC. PROPERTY at. all!!!!!! ....do you want me to -blam!- repeat myself??!?!?! The Spartans have never been "owned" by the UNSC or ONI, they are personnel of the UNSC and that is only and always how they have been treated, and only that, they are not slaves or mindless robots), she's being illegally held without trial and being forced into slave labor and having every single human right on the book violated by ONI because Parangosky (Traviss' blessed little Mary-Sue saint who's never done a single thing wrong) is petty, vindictive, little -blam!- who's holding a grudge and doing it for -blam!-z and giggles because she apparently didn't know about the flash-clones (which I already proved is frakking nonesense) and is now exercising her pettiness. And no, Hood is a-okay with it because Karen Travissty does not understand one single thing about the Halo lore and is reshaping it into her own deranged image and making Lord Hood a little docile and submissive lapdog just so she can have her little Mary-Sues do whatever she thinks is right and so she can "punish" everyone who ever did wrong at all. Honestly, I think Karen Traviss should probably be fired and go back to writing original fiction (her style is good and from that sort of standpoint I enjoy Glasslands, the formula sort of stuff), or placed on the tightest leash imaginable and have her work proofread a thousand times over by someone who actually knows the lore and gives a damn about it.
lol, you mad bro? It's been a while since I read Onyx, and come to think of it you're right about the ship not being UNSC. She still kidnapped a Spartan, which I never implied was UNSC property, but is still undeniably military personel. It is also quite clear that she did not authorize the flash clones, due to how often she rages about it in her head. If she was lying about he lack of involvement she wouldn't be complaining about it to herself, but to other people. Also, who knows what she told Hood? Everything Halsey did was being solely monitored by ONI. She could have accused her and planted evidence of her blowing up an orphanage if she wanted to.

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  • 10.03.2012 12:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: ninjakenzenRofl! XD
You should add something about how the ONI actually are the Patriots from the Metal Gear Solid Universe, thereof the design of the Mantis and its name...

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Wait, seriously?

Lord Hood knows Halsey is in prison and Parangosky basically did it "For the lulz" (aka, getting back at something which is pointless to rage over in the long long run)... and is "Yeah, cool."

Ugh. The Travissty continues.

(Especially since when Halsey came out of Onyx, there was a treasure chest of forerunner tech. Therefore the message asking for spartans was not a lie. so arresting for that reason cannot happen.)


First Reach, now the novels. It's getting hard to stay attached to the Haloverse when the canon gets stepped on along with any common sense.


Glasslands Trilogy is the only problem so far. Forerunner Saga is awesome...

the books 343i put out before then were, like Halo Evolutions...
Agreed. You can tell commitment is going into the Forerunner Saga.

Anyways, the only reason I'm getting Thursday War is to see the Elite perspective, even if it may be butchered.

It was a great project.

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  • 10.04.2012 1:41 AM PDT


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ONI is insane.


:O I've figured it all out *le gasp* ONI is the Ancient Evil we're being prepared to fight!!!! O_O

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Posted by: Darthbill99
you mad bro?

People who still say this deserved to be kicked in the teeth.

I just finished Glasslands not long ago. Is this book worse? Because if it is I doubt I could stomach it.

  • 10.04.2012 10:34 AM PDT

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Posted by: Darthbill99
you mad bro?

People who still say this deserved to be kicked in the teeth.

I just finished Glasslands not long ago. Is this book worse? Because if it is I doubt I could stomach it.
I don't make a habit of saying that, but he was clearly raging and I couldn't resist. I like it better than Glasslands, I feel like most of the complaining is just people looking for things to hate due to there disappointment with Glasslands.

  • 10.04.2012 6:28 PM PDT

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