- ROBERTO jh
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Posted by: OrderedComa
Posted by: ROBERTO jh
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So 343i and Karen Traviss just basically took a giant dump on the hopeful and idealistic ending of Halo 3. Not cool, not cool.
I didn't realize this community wanted a Disney ending. I'd have expected a longing for a more mature, realistic conclusion than 30 years of bitter hatred being overcome through The Power of Friendship, especially since it was overwhelmingly obvious Halo 3 wasn't the end.
Dissappointing, to say the least.
Who ever said anything a "Disney" ending where everything is all sunshine, happiness, puppies, butterflies, and rainbows? I don't think anyone ever did. The Elites and humanity forming an alliance with the other, which is what Bungie was doing and was the whole -blam!- behind Halo 3's ending with the memorial and one of the main points of the game and all of the lore between it and Halo 2 and coming out after them. It was not going to be an easy or instant road on human's part, but that was what Bungie meant to happen, alliance and a close friendship between the two like what Great Britain and the other common-wealth countries (Canada, Australia, New Zealand) and America have with each other.
How is the author's intent at all disappointing, claiming it is is just stupid. No one has ever said anything about it being instant, so don't act like they have or that humans should instantly be friends with every single Elite. And you know what, you can have a working alliance and treaty with another group, race, species, or nation without really liking them too much, the only important thing is if the leaders can put aside their differences and try to work together...which the UNSC obviously could, or at least the important people who actually matter, like Lord Hood.
Yeah, I know that's what you're talking about. An idealogogical ending to a series that is supposed to be more realistic than that. It's a watered down Disney ending, but still very much like one because it throws out realism for hope and ideaology. And I'm pretty sure we all know that Halo 3 was not, couldn't have been, Bungie's intended ending to anything.
Even if the government wants to make peace with the Elites (which they still do), and the Elites officially return the favor (which they still do), you cannot account for the individuals of either side. Unfortunately, the Elites are run by individual Keeps, not one government like we are. Maintaining the peace with all of those Keeps is impossible--the Arbiter is just one Keep, and not very respected amongst the religious zealots, aka the most likely to still want our heads.
So what do you want ONI to do? Sit there with its thumb up its ass letting these overzealous Elites gain power, kill the Arbiter, take over, and wage Round 2 on us? Even the Arbiter can't be entirely trusted. He only joined us out of shear desperation. That's all the alliance ever was: shear desperation. It wasn't because of some superior moral high ground or whatever, however Bungie depicted it, the two sides still hated being in the same room with each other; hell, Rtas even threatened to glass all of earth soley on the basis of a localized Flood infection. You really think these are the signs of a potentially prosperous relationship? It is abundantly clear Rtas just wanted to see earth burn. Even Hood openly tells him to his face that he does not trust the Speratists, and he's the peace delegation. Why should ONI, our own equivelant overzealous protector that has been waging war with these genocidal, can't-be-reasoned-with maniacs for 30 years, trust Arbiter any more? Their allince, again, was out of desperation--the peace talks in Kilo-Five are also, in big part, out of necessity, because conventional soldiers must make peace when conventional wars are currently impossible. ONI is not a conventional branch of the military. We, as the audience, might know that Arbiter is more virtuous than the other Elites, but A) ONI doesn't know this, and B) even if they did, he is just one guy. I look at it as ONI would have no problem with peace with the Elites, if they were all, or mostly, like Thel. They aren't, so Thel can't be trusted because his people can't be, not even those of Vadam.
ONI has nothing against Thel personally, he's a target out of necessity.
So what you're hoping for, putting aside their differences to work together, is tantamount to a Disney ending, or at the very least a fantasy ending, because it's borderline impossible. There is a silver lining in that neither Hood nor Thel knows about ONI's operations, so in the long run, peace can still be achieved, maybe. But millions of hateful, down with earth Elites are going to have to die before that can happen.