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The halo’s were created to destroy the flood. Why would they contain the flood on the weapon they use to destroy all possible hosts?

Quote by Guilty Spark from halosm.bungie.org.
This installation's research facilities are most impressive! Perhaps we'll have time to see them later.
So, they did research them there.

Quote by Guilty Spark from halosm.bungie.org.
The installation was well conceived. It is surely the only way to end the Flood threat
And it is the only way halt the spread for sure.

Quote by Guilty Spark from halosm.bungie.org.
Why naturally the Flood is simply too dangerous to release, and mass sterilization protocols may again need to be enacted. Of course, samples were kept here after the last catastrophic outbreak...for study. It seems... that decision may have been an error.
Notice this part…
"Of course, samples were kept here after the last catastrophic outbreak...for study."

So, this has happened before. Not to the point where the halos needed to be fired, but it was after that last occurrence that they were kept their for study. Still, why did they keep the flood around if they weren’t going to be alive (if Halos were fired) to study it?

Also notice this…
"It seems... that decision may have been an error."

It was a decision. It didn’t happen on coincidence.

Quote by Guilty Spark from halosm.bungie.org.
The installation was specifically built to study and contain the Flood. Their survival as a race was dependent upon it. I am grateful to see that some of them survived to reproduce.
So, humans must look identical to the forerunners*, but this quote…

Quote by Guilty Spark from haloarchives.net.
Oh dear. Containment protocols appear to have been violated.
The interlopers appear to have accidentally released the Flood infection forms. This situation is rapidly deteriorating. Most of these interlopers appear to contain ample calcium stores. And they\'ve brought plentiful means for the Flood to escape containment and spread. How impossibly thoughtless. I suppose I\'ll have to activate the facility.

Notice this…
"I suppose I\'ll have to activate the facility."

Seems he doesn’t need the forerunners there to activate the facility. He can do it himself.


This is because the ark is on a timer so to speak. It’s set to open, but not if the rings are fired again. 343 Guilty Spark was only there to ensure that, if an outbreak happened while the Forerunners were in some sort of cryogenic suspension like hibernation, the flood would still be contained. The flood was origionaly contained so that once the ark activated they could continue their research.

The Forerunners... are waking… !?


*I'm wondering if some sort of bacteria or ameba managed to escape the ark... it could have been how humans looks soo close to Forerunners. DNA just might have evolved the same way. Being as how they the Forerunners have the same type of envirenments as the earth does. Also, other planets that are able to support human life contain these Forerunner artifacts. So, it's possible that the time the Forerunners were in hybernation was long enuff for the simple cells to evolve in to people.


Thoughts? Ideas? Coments?

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  • 06.26.2006 1:16 PM PDT
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hmmmm not bad.......but i think (and this is rather simplistic) that the forerunner left the flood intact cuz they prolly forgot about them? or, they are in hibernation right? so when the halos were activated and the sentients killed off, then the ones in hibernation didnt starve cuz they were nappin (maybe frozen?) the reason they were in there in the first place was for study. good call on the quotes about being glad to reproduce, and showing it IS the humans=forerunner connection

  • 06.26.2006 1:20 PM PDT

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dude, why do you constantly write in bold now?^^

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Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
hmmmm not bad.......but i think (and this is rather simplistic) that the forerunner left the flood intact cuz they prolly forgot about them? or, they are in hibernation right? so when the halos were activated and the sentients killed off, then the ones in hibernation didnt starve cuz they were nappin (maybe frozen?) the reason they were in there in the first place was for study. good call on the quotes about being glad to reproduce, and showing it IS the humans=forerunner connection


That gave me an Idea. I updated my post. Look for the *

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  • 06.26.2006 1:30 PM PDT
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Sorry to post again, but I can't believe I didn't get much feedback on this. Atleast somebody should prove me wrong or something.

  • 06.27.2006 2:44 PM PDT
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The Flood samples could've been contained by the machines the Forerunner left behind.

Other than that, I don't think an advanced civilization such as the Forerunnner killed themselves off completely. Who built the memorial tributes on Delta Halo? Perhaps whoever's on Halo and/or within the Ark survives the activation of Halo.

The great plot twist comes when a Forerunner in cryo-freeze somewhere awakens...

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i really don't agree with all of it, but i like the theory very much, mostly because it has original (for this board, at least) points and ideas

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Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
hmmmm not bad.......but i think (and this is rather simplistic) that the forerunner left the flood intact cuz they prolly forgot about them? or, they are in hibernation right?


The Forerunner are dead, man. They used the Halo's to kill themselves.

  • 06.27.2006 2:57 PM PDT

Your theory tells me more that the Flood was created by the Forerunners, rather than the Forerunners coming back alive. The Halos would have been created or already in construction before the Flood, I mean look at them, it doesn't seem like they could just be thrown together quickly. I am more and more leaning towards the Flood not being a naturally developing species.

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wow. that's interesting. Thanks for incuding sources of info to back it up, unlike so many other theories.

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You know i dont think enough people have mentioned this but if you shoot 343 enough he says " Stop acting so human"... now i dont know about you but from where im sittiing i can jump to a lot of conclusions from those words alone. Maybe humans are bad forerunners who somehow survived the halos? Sure sounds like it.

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I could've sworn that when Spark said "I am grateful to see that some of them survived to reproduce" he was referring to the Flood. I guess that's just me?

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Posted by: BlockBurner
Your theory tells me more that the Flood was created by the Forerunners, rather than the Forerunners coming back alive. The Halos would have been created or already in construction before the Flood, I mean look at them, it doesn't seem like they could just be thrown together quickly. I am more and more leaning towards the Flood not being a naturally developing species.


I don't think there is a time line from when they found the flood to when they began to study them. It's possible that they found the flood, built the halos, and then began to study them. Tough the halos being made before they found the flood would explain why the installation closest to Threshold is 04 and not 01.

I never mention that they created the flood,
I pointed out how they did research, but that's it.

Posted by: halo_player9672
I could've sworn that when Spark said "I am grateful to see that some of them survived to reproduce" he was referring to the Flood. I guess that's just me?


He does say that, but he is refering to the forerunners. "Reclaimers" I doubt he would be grateful the flood reproduced. Espicall since they don't reproduce. They just infect.

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Posted by: Seven7h
The Flood samples could've been contained by the machines the Forerunner left behind.

Other than that, I don't think an advanced civilization such as the Forerunnner killed themselves off completely. Who built the memorial tributes on Delta Halo? Perhaps whoever's on Halo and/or within the Ark survives the activation of Halo.

The great plot twist comes when a Forerunner in cryo-freeze somewhere awakens...


I agree with this. Certainly if the Forerunners had some way of protecting their civilization. For all we know Forerunners are still alive but far enough away that Halo's activation wouldn't harm them.

Essentially if they could contain the Flood to the ringworlds, then they could easily destroy them and end the threat once and for all, but they didn't for research purposes? That sounds pretty dumb to me that they would endanger their entire way of life just to do some research. Thats mainly why I think they either have some sort of protection against the activation of Halo, or they built the Halo's in a remote area of the universe.

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Posted by: Seven7h
The Flood samples could've been contained by the machines the Forerunner left behind.

Other than that, I don't think an advanced civilization such as the Forerunnner killed themselves off completely. Who built the memorial tributes on Delta Halo? Perhaps whoever's on Halo and/or within the Ark survives the activation of Halo.

The great plot twist comes when a Forerunner in cryo-freeze somewhere awakens...


I agree with this. Certainly if the Forerunners had some way of protecting their civilization. For all we know Forerunners are still alive but far enough away that Halo's activation wouldn't harm them.

Essentially if they could contain the Flood to the ringworlds, then they could easily destroy them and end the threat once and for all, but they didn't for research purposes? That sounds pretty dumb to me that they would endanger their entire way of life just to do some research. Thats mainly why I think they either have some sort of protection against the activation of Halo, or they built the Halo's in a remote area of the universe.


See, the ark is what they created to protect themselves. They're there. They saved the flood because it was (they tought) their key to immortality.

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Posted by: Helljumper670
You know i dont think enough people have mentioned this but if you shoot 343 enough he says " Stop acting so human"... now i dont know about you but from where im sittiing i can jump to a lot of conclusions from those words alone. Maybe humans are bad forerunners who somehow survived the halos? Sure sounds like it.

You know what? How does 343 know that we are "Humans"? How did he know what we call ourselves? I think there could be a lot of speculation into that.

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Posted by: Helljumper670
You know i dont think enough people have mentioned this but if you shoot 343 enough he says " Stop acting so human"... now i dont know about you but from where im sittiing i can jump to a lot of conclusions from those words alone. Maybe humans are bad forerunners who somehow survived the halos? Sure sounds like it.

You know what? How does 343 know that we are "Humans"? How did he know what we call ourselves? I think there could be a lot of speculation into that.


That may just be from over hearing the communitcations.
The same way he knows who the covie are.

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Posted by: prophate
Sorry to post again, but I can't believe I didn't get much feedback on this. Atleast somebody should prove me wrong or something.


Don't bump. EVER!

Oh, and 343 was talking about the Flood when he said "I'm glad to see some of them survived to reproduce". His meaning is obscure in that sentence.

Oh, and I noticed you conveniently left out the quote "After they had exhausted every other strategic option, my creators activated the rings. They, in addition to every other sentient being within 3 radii of the galactic center, died, as planned."

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Don't bump. EVER!

Oh, and 343 was talking about the Flood when he said "I'm glad to see some of them survived to reproduce". His meaning is obscure in that sentence.

Oh, and I noticed you conveniently left out the quote "After they had exhausted every other strategic option, my creators activated the rings. They, in addition to every other sentient being within 3 radii of the galactic center, died, as planned."


Thats completely true, but it doesn't really mean all the Forerunners died. Although it does hint at that.

  • 06.27.2006 3:30 PM PDT

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That's a good theory.

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Posted by: prophate
Sorry to post again, but I can't believe I didn't get much feedback on this. Atleast somebody should prove me wrong or something.


Don't bump. EVER!

Oh, and 343 was talking about the Flood when he said "I'm glad to see some of them survived to reproduce". His meaning is obscure in that sentence.

Oh, and I noticed you conveniently left out the quote "After they had exhausted every other strategic option, my creators activated the rings. They, in addition to every other sentient being within 3 radii of the galactic center, died, as planned."


They did activate the rings, but the point was to kill everything. Why would they kill themselves off completely? They didn't. It's also possible that the forerunners didn't tell 343. He came after the humans pretty fast to activate the rings. It's possible that they didn't want him to know in fear he would find them, and wake them up, possibly exposing them to the flood.

"It doesn't kill the flood, It kills there food"

So it kills anything that the flood can infect, not what they already did.

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The Forerunners did die. How they died is anyones guess, but in my opinon I think that one of the "oracles" or monitors killed them with the Halo rings. The monitors could have done it in order to keep the flood under control. This could be why the Forerunners are not around they programed the monitors to do anything they need to to contain the Flood from spreading.

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Posted by: prophate
Posted by: Rakdos
Posted by: prophate
Sorry to post again, but I can't believe I didn't get much feedback on this. Atleast somebody should prove me wrong or something.


Don't bump. EVER!

Oh, and 343 was talking about the Flood when he said "I'm glad to see some of them survived to reproduce". His meaning is obscure in that sentence.

Oh, and I noticed you conveniently left out the quote "After they had exhausted every other strategic option, my creators activated the rings. They, in addition to every other sentient being within 3 radii of the galactic center, died, as planned."


They did activate the rings, but the point was to kill everything. Why would they kill themselves off completely? They didn't. It's also possible that the forerunners didn't tell 343. He came after the humans pretty fast to activate the rings. It's possible that they didn't want him to know in fear he would find them, and wake them up, possibly exposing them to the flood.

"It doesn't kill the flood, It kills there food"

So it kills anything that the flood can infect, not what they already did.


So, according to you, the Flood completely infected the Forerunners, so that now they're immune to the Halos (being Flood and all), but they're still considered live Forerunners?

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Umm...the flood ARE immune to the halos. They don't get killed by the Halos. they get starved cause evertyhing they feed on dies.
Way to be a -blam!- flamer and be wrong, idiot.

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Posted by: Sekeres
The Forerunners did die. How they died is anyones guess, but in my opinon I think that one of the "oracles" or monitors killed them with the Halo rings. The monitors could have done it in order to keep the flood under control. This could be why the Forerunners are not around they programed the monitors to do anything they need to to contain the Flood from spreading.


Why keep the flood at all if you're going to be dead anyway?

If the intent was to completely wipe out the flood they wouln't have holding cells, or the cells would have been opened/released for the activation so they wouln't be around if another race (stupid covies) found it.

Posted by: Spartan117atHalo
Umm...the flood ARE immune to the halos. They don't get killed by the Halos. they get starved cause evertyhing they feed on dies.
Way to be a -blam!- flamer and be wrong, idiot.


lol

If this guy would listen he would know the flood die with nothing to eat. So the infected sentient (sp?) life DIED of starvation, NOT from the Halos. Ever heard of think before you speak? Think before you post.


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