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Ok, I know that there have been literally HUNDREDS of posts about what the Ark could be, and what it could do, but bare with me. I think this is somewhat original. Somewhat lengthy read.

The Prophet of Truth was rushing to Earth BEFORE Delta Halo's firing sequence was aborted. Presumably, this was to annihalate all humans, to "finish what was started". But why would he bother? If the Great Journey was moments away from commencing, why go to fight a lengthy battle at the human home planet? I doubt that the Prophets have the same sentiments about "glory in battle" that the Elites do.

This leads one to believe that he is going to Earth for the Ark. And why would he be going for the Ark unless he suspected that something would go wrong at Delta Halo. Perhaps he knew that Tartarus would fail (side theory: maybe the prophets posess their own Forerunner artifact similar to the time crystal from Reach, letting them have limited looks at the future). So he anticipates that Tartarus will fail. So how does he know that the Ark controls all the Halos when they are in standby status? Maybe he knows some secret about the Ark that only the Hierarchs know, because of some very secretive Forerunner artifact they found( again, look at side theory above).

So here Truth is, conquering Earth, and now he can get to the Ark (so conviniently excavated by Regret's slipspace jump). But maybe he DOESN'T know the true function of the Halos? What if he really does believe in the divinity of the Forerunners. But because of this secret knowledge he and the other Hierarchs have, they know that the Ark is VERY special.

The Ark itself may not control the Halos. 343 GS says you need to go there to activate them remotely. He doesn't say that the Ark is the device to do it. Maybe Truth knows that there is some "otherspace" pocket in the Ark that 1 or more Forerunners remained to monitor how the fledgling races of our galaxy progressed, how we dealt with the Flood, and how the Halos are used/abused by these baby races.

Yes, 343 said that all the Forerunners in this galaxy died as planned. THIS galaxy. Thus the "otherspace" pocket. They aren't in this galaxy, but are still connected to it. Truth knows this. He knows Tartarus is going to fail. So he wants to go speak to his gods face to face, to see them in their divine glory, etc., and prove himself worthy of the knowledge of the Halos. The Forerunners in this other "dimension" of space have are actually in control of the Halos, and decide who is responsible enough to use the Halos.

The flash from the device in the trailer could be that "otherspace" pocket collapsing, or taking something/someone into it, OR rejecting someone(Truth) not found worthy. Bungie said the trailer was about 1/3 into the game (or 3/4, don't remember). The rest of the game can be spent dealing with a humiliated and furious Truth(can't be too fun to have your loyal disciples see you chastised by your "gods). He is now leading a vengeful fleet to physically destroy Earth, and all the remaining humans on colony worlds. "The way the world ends" could be Truth destroying Earth, but MC finally destroying Truth. He(MC) then gathers the remaining human survivors and settles down on a very nice new planet, and what Covenant are allied with the Humans (ones loyal to the Arbiter) could help the Humans rebuild their civilization.

I know this theory needs a lot of work, and it probably won't turn out that way, but it's food for thought. Lemme know your ideas on this.

[Edited on 6/27/2006]

  • 06.26.2006 9:08 PM PDT
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[quote]Posted by: Rakdos
Ok, I know that there have been literally HUNDREDS of posts about what the Ark could be, and what it could do, but bare with me. I think this is somewhat original. Somewhat lengthy read."

Have you even played h2? 343 says what the ark is at the end of h2, it says that the ark can activate or shut down all of the installations (halos). Thats why truth, as well as the arbitar and keyes are racing to get to it.

  • 06.26.2006 9:19 PM PDT
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[quote]Posted by: Rakdos
Ok, I know that there have been literally HUNDREDS of posts about what the Ark could be, and what it could do, but bare with me. I think this is somewhat original. Somewhat lengthy read."

Have you even played h2? 343 says what the ark is at the end of h2, it says that the ark can activate or shut down all of the installations (halos). Thats why truth, as well as the arbitar and keyes are racing to get to it.



And did you read the entire theory?

As I said, GS only said "why the ark, of course" when Miranda Keyes asked him where the Halos were remote activated. In my theory I stated that the Ark itself might be where you need to go to activate them, but not what actually activates them.

People like you piss me off. Do you think I'd put this much -blam!- time into a theory about a game I haven't played? Huh?


EDIT--
Keyes: Where? Where would someone go to activate the other rings?
343 Guilty Spark: Why the Ark, of course.

Note that she's not asking what activates the rings, just where it is.

[Edited on 6/26/2006]

  • 06.26.2006 9:23 PM PDT
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Ok, and let me retaliate by saying that people who write these "in depth theories" piss me off. whether or not they are remote activated at the ark or not, the prophet of truth and keyes are both rushing there for something and if you dont get that you're a -blam!- idiot.

  • 06.26.2006 9:28 PM PDT

Verbose, as usual.

I like the bit about the goint to the ark to activate the rings, but that the ark is not what physically activates them.

If they do have some of these newfangled time crystals, as you say, wouldn't they have been able to forsee something such as this ark discharging that much energy?

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Ok, and let me retaliate by saying that people who write these "in depth theories" piss me off. whether or not they are remote activated at the ark or not, the prophet of truth and keyes are both rushing there for something and if you dont get that you're a -blam!- idiot.

And where did you get the idea that I don't realize they're rushing for something?
As I said in the theory, Truth IS rushing to the Ark.

Please don't start a flame war. Just point out specific things in the theory you don't agree with and why.

[Edited on 6/26/2006]

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I dont want to start a flame war all im saying is that whatever truth is rushing for is mostly likely the ark, whether or not that is what physically activates it, is just theory as of now.

[Edited on 6/26/2006]

  • 06.26.2006 9:33 PM PDT
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iv got to say that sounds quite good but why would he get the brutes to replace the elites, i may have missed that it is late

  • 06.27.2006 4:08 PM PDT
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Great theory, this is entirely plausible.

  • 06.27.2006 4:31 PM PDT
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that's what i was going to post!!

Really? Well, then can you tell me anything I might have missed?

  • 06.27.2006 6:00 PM PDT
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Great theory, this is entirely plausible.


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  • 06.27.2006 6:25 PM PDT
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Your right about the theory needing work, but it was a decent read.

More facts to back this up would be great...Nonetheless I found it interesting.

BUNGIE has brought up tthe altering of time( Marathon. Time Crystal in Fall of Reach) before.

  • 06.27.2006 6:46 PM PDT
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The fact was that Truth was too old that he thought he was going to die so he'll take the universe w/ him in the end! okay? Happy? This topic is posted many times....

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It is an interesting idea, but I can't think of anything to either try to prove or disprove it. that said, I disagree with you where you said that Truth knew/expected Tartarus to fail. There is no way he could have seen that Tartarus would fai. I think that when he gave the index back to Tartarus before he went to Earth, he fully expected Tartarus to succeed in activating Halo. I believe that Truth knows exactly what the Halos do, and he knew what he was doing when he gave Tartarus the index and told him to activate Halo.

I agree with you when you say that Truth/Prophet Hierarchics have special knowledge.

  • 06.27.2006 7:04 PM PDT
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It is an interesting idea, but I can't think of anything to either try to prove or disprove it. that said, I disagree with you where you said that Truth knew/expected Tartarus to fail. There is no way he could have seen that Tartarus would fai. I think that when he gave the index back to Tartarus before he went to Earth, he fully expected Tartarus to succeed in activating Halo. I believe that Truth knows exactly what the Halos do, and he knew what he was doing when he gave Tartarus the index and told him to activate Halo.

I agree with you when you say that Truth/Prophet Hierarchics have special knowledge.



Ok. WHY? Why would Truth have Tartarus activate the Halos and then leave for Earth? It would take 1/2 hour tops for Tartarus to activate Delta Halo. It would take Truth far longer to jump to Earth, mop up Earth's defenses, and then find any supposed shelter in the Ark, meaning Truth would die too.

  • 06.27.2006 7:16 PM PDT
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Maybe Truth left for Earth as he knew that the ring would destroy all life in the universe(galaxy whatever). So he went to Earth as he knew that the Ark existed there. Maybe the Ark is a shelter for Humans or Covenant when the rings are activated?

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hello you stumbled amoung my post sorry to interrupt I am of no importance but the ark activates all the halos it is not a safe heaven even though everyone says it is it is not tied to christianty in any way plz do0 not be mad but i'm sure you should get on with psoting your answers

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Maybe Truth left for Earth as he knew that the ring would destroy all life in the universe(galaxy whatever). So he went to Earth as he knew that the Ark existed there. Maybe the Ark is a shelter for Humans or Covenant when the rings are activated?


Truth would know that Delta Halo would fire long before he could get into the Ark. Even if that Forerunner ship was able to jump to Earth instantly, he'd have to spend the time to get past Earth's defenses, get to the Ark, and figure out how to work it. Tartarus was on his way to the Control room before the Forerunner ship even took off from High Charity.

  • 06.28.2006 12:16 PM PDT
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[quote]Posted by: Rakdos
Ok, I know that there have been literally HUNDREDS of posts about what the Ark could be, and what it could do, but bare with me. I think this is somewhat original. Somewhat lengthy read."

Have you even played h2? 343 says what the ark is at the end of h2, it says that the ark can activate or shut down all of the installations (halos). Thats why truth, as well as the arbitar and keyes are racing to get to it.



And did you read the entire theory?

As I said, GS only said "why the ark, of course" when Miranda Keyes asked him where the Halos were remote activated. In my theory I stated that the Ark itself might be where you need to go to activate them, but not what actually activates them.

People like you piss me off. Do you think I'd put this much -blam!- time into a theory about a game I haven't played? Huh?


EDIT--
Keyes: Where? Where would someone go to activate the other rings?
343 Guilty Spark: Why the Ark, of course.

Note that she's not asking what activates the rings, just where it is.
Okay, so inside the Ark you would activate the rings. That would mean that you would use the Ark to activate the rings.There is no debate about that, Inside the Ark is part of the Ark.

  • 06.28.2006 4:18 PM PDT
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You know, has anyone considered that the structure on Earth or the Earth isn't The Ark? There is much more evidence that the Forerunner Ship Truth escaped on is The Ark than some unknown structure dug up on Earth. I would list the reasons, but I feel like I'm repeating myself to no avail. Unless you want me to. As much as the next person knows, the structure in the trailer could be a temple, or a gigantic landing pad for the Forerunner Ship, or something else... I highly doubt the fight for the Ark will be 1/3 through the game.

  • 06.28.2006 4:34 PM PDT
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If Truth knew that Tarterus was going to fail, then why would he want to kill his top bodyguard? And what evidence leads you to believe that all the Hierarchs know the truth of the the halos? Its a creative theory, but there are to many conclusions with not enough evidence or contradicting evidence to back it up.

  • 06.28.2006 4:52 PM PDT
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I have looked alot at Halo.bungie.org lately to kind of catch up on some peoples theories about the game and the storyline, and I must say that the idea that the ship the MC is on is the ark is new to me, and really interesting...If the Ship is powerful enought to power High Charity, then I'm sure that it could activate the 7(correction 6) Halo's...

  • 06.28.2006 5:16 PM PDT
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What if the "device" on Earth is a super becon/transport to take you to the Ark. Like when Regret came to Earth and left he then jumped to Installion 05 probably meaning he found something on Earth that told him its location, so maybe this big "device" is a becon or something to show him(truth) where the Ark is.

(off topic) Did Bungie have this whole story planned out when they made Halo 1? Just wondering...

  • 06.28.2006 5:16 PM PDT
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If Truth knew that Tarterus was going to fail, then why would he want to kill his top bodyguard? And what evidence leads you to believe that all the Hierarchs know the truth of the the halos? Its a creative theory, but there are to many conclusions with not enough evidence or contradicting evidence to back it up.


I don't say that the Heirarchs know the truth. I'm saying that they (including truth) really do believe in the Great Journy.
He sent Tartarus to activate Delta Halo for two possible reasons, even if he knew the Brute would fail:
1. Tartarus' death would make him a martyr for the cause, cementing the loyalty of the Brutes. "Our chieftan died for this! We must continue his holy work!" etc.
2. Truth had to make the appearance of trying to begin the Great Journey, now that the Covenant knew that the Index had been found. And if he sent someone less important than Tartarus, that would be an insult to the Brutes and make certain Covenant people suspicious as to why such a grave responsibility was given to a low ranking person.

  • 06.28.2006 7:25 PM PDT

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