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Subject: Where the books are wrong: the effects of glassing a planet
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Of course Nylund and Bungie will make scientific mistakes. They aren't scientists; they're game designers and science-fiction writers. This is a flimsy excuse, of course; good job at pointing this out.

  • 06.27.2006 11:19 AM PDT

Posted by: Ditto649
Posted by: Kilwan
Plasmaaa....is pretty damn hot? But on other news, it IS just a book written on a game.


no it is a game based on a book.


no, the book is based on the game as the books came out after the first halo game!

  • 06.27.2006 11:20 AM PDT
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Posted by: an REG Omega
This is scientifically impossible.

So is faster than light travel.
No, only accelerating to the speed of light ;)

  • 06.27.2006 11:22 AM PDT
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Molecules split apart and combine using electrical energy, not heat. -blam!-lord.

  • 06.27.2006 11:22 AM PDT

Posted by: Del Beano
Molecules split apart and combine using electrical energy, not heat. -blam!-lord.


Heat is a type of energy. Fire is energy.

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Posted by: Guscon
Posted by: ImABigWeirdo
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This is scientifically impossible.

So is faster than light travel.
No, only accelerating to the speed of light ;)


Plus, they aren't accelerating to faster-than-light in normal space- they are in a wormhole dimension, which might actually be theoretically possible. There was a short article on the possiblity in a Popular Science (or P. Mechanics ; can't remember which one) a few months back.

  • 06.27.2006 11:26 AM PDT

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Plasmaaa....is pretty damn hot? But on other news, it IS just a book written on a game.


no it is a game based on a book.


Nope. Other way round. If the game was made off the book, the other Spartans would have been in it from the beginning. But they aren't, proving the game was made first.

The game was based off of the Halo bible, just like the books were. Don't be suprised if these Spartans show up in Halo 3.

  • 06.27.2006 12:13 PM PDT
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And how many planets have you glassed?


GOD, WHAT A NOOB

  • 06.27.2006 12:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: Del Beano
Molecules split apart and combine using electrical energy, not heat. -blam!-lord.
Electricity is heat...

  • 06.27.2006 12:24 PM PDT

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Say if trees are there, they'll catch fire right? Igniting the massive amounts of oxygen (pure) leaving absolutely nothing (i think. Im 14, starting triple GCSE science, still got a lot to learn :P)

  • 06.27.2006 12:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: Vitamin Zawaz
Omega is right.

The oceans would boil away if, say, the glassing process were slightly cooler. But yes, Omega is correct--the water would be broken down into hydrogen and oxygen. Hydrogen would drift off, much like gas does in a supernova, and the oxygen would remain.

If there is enough oxygen afterwards, it would create one hell of a big ozone layer that is toxic enough to kil anything left over.

I agree with REG Omega.


ONe thing Oxygen is o2 ozone is o3, oxygen doesn't magically bond with another oxygen. Go take High School Chemistry over again.

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even if they where seperated and released they still have a mass and why does hydrogen escape? wouldnt gravity keep them floating in the atmosphere?

H20 is a mainly Ionic bond according to its electronegativity so i don't see a problem with it rebonding? im not much of a chemistry buff so someone fill me in.

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Posted by: Vitamin Zawaz
Posted by: Del Beano
Molecules split apart and combine using electrical energy, not heat. -blam!-lord.
Electricity is heat...


Electricity is NOT heat, electricity can generate heat, but it is not heat. Electricity is a form of energy, just like heat, but it isnt heat.

Oh, and arent Hydrogen and pur Oxygen extremely flamable. Think about a planetary flashfire... yeah, dead.

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You guys do know that Eric Nylund has a Bachelor's in Chemistry and Master's in Chemical Physics right? Are you guys all boasting that you are smarter then someone with classifications in those two areas? Do you all think you are smarter? I think not! Now i think you should all drop it because Nylund obviously knows a hell of a lot more about chemistry then you do so unless you have better classifications then Nylund does... STOP TALKING LIKE YOU DO.

And the game did come out before the books for all the noobs who still don't know.

In case you are wondering how i knew what Nylund's degrees were, you should pick up a copy of Fall of Reach and go to the very back page where it tells you about the author and read it. It is the first sentence.

Thank you... noobs...

  • 06.27.2006 12:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: Justice101
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Omega is right.

The oceans would boil away if, say, the glassing process were slightly cooler. But yes, Omega is correct--the water would be broken down into hydrogen and oxygen. Hydrogen would drift off, much like gas does in a supernova, and the oxygen would remain.

If there is enough oxygen afterwards, it would create one hell of a big ozone layer that is toxic enough to kil anything left over.

I agree with REG Omega.


ONe thing Oxygen is o2 ozone is o3, oxygen doesn't magically bond with another oxygen. Go take High School Chemistry over again.
I haven't taken High School Chemistry.

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The game was in production before the books, the game was released November 15, 2001 and Fall of reach was released October 30, 2001. So if you consider basically a joint release over a 2 week period a big difference, then by all means the books were released before the game, by 2 weeks.

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Posted by: Del Beano
Molecules split apart and combine using electrical energy, not heat. -blam!-lord.


Heat is a type of energy. Fire is energy.
Yes, but niether is ELECTRICAL energy. There's a difference. If there wasn't any difference between types of energy, we'd be shocked everytime we moved, as the chemical energy burned by our bodies would be no different from electrical energy. (By the way, fire isn't actual energy itself, it's the chemical reaction that turns the chemical energy of wood (or whatever you're burning) into heat.)

Congratulations, you know that heat is energy. Want a cookie?

No seriously, I'll give you another one if you tell me what 2+2 is.


PS: I knew that ozone was O3, but I haven't taken chem yet either. There has to be some difference, otherwise the hole in the ozone layer would make it so no one in Antartica could breathe. O3 is just exremely adept at absorbing UV radiation. Actually, extra ozone would make the planet cooler and more suited to life, albeit we couldn't breathe it.

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Doesn't plasma contain some electricity?

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Yes, the ElectroMagnetic force that bonds its atoms together.

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Okay, so then the topic creator was right.
If Covies glass the planet with a huge overdose of plasma (which contains some electricity), then it could probably split H2O into hydrogen and oxygen.

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Posted by: Vitamin Zawaz
Okay, so then the topic creator was right.
If Covies glass the planet with a huge overdose of plasma (which contains some electricity), then it could probably split H2O into hydrogen and oxygen.


And in turn the superheated plasma would ingite the pure hydrogen and oxygen, creating a planteary flashfire.

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Plasmaaa....is pretty damn hot? But on other news, it IS just a book written on a game.


no it is a game based on a book.


Nope. Other way round. If the game was made off the book, the other Spartans would have been in it from the beginning. But they aren't, proving the game was made first.


well considering 2 books were out b4 a game was out, i do think u r wrong. and also considering these 2 books are named HALO also. the game is based on the books, but are not precise to the books. they get ideas fromt he books.

thank you..
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You my freind, are an idiot!

  • 06.27.2006 1:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: Justice101
ONe thing Oxygen is o2 ozone is o3, oxygen doesn't magically bond with another oxygen. Go take High School Chemistry over again.


That's what I said on the first page.

  • 06.27.2006 1:14 PM PDT
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Here is the proof we need to end the conversation:
Release Date

Fall of Reach: October 30, 2001
The Flood: April 2003
First Strike: December 2, 2003

Halo: Combat Evolved:
* November 15, 2001 (U.S.)
* March 14, 2002 (Europe)
* April 25, 2002 (Japan)

  • 06.27.2006 1:15 PM PDT