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Subject: Who would win? Halo Universe or Star Wars Universe?
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Posted by: alex0612 -snip-
Darth Nihilus can kill entire planets instantly. I've stated this many times before. And no, the Halo guys would be touched by the force, they only couldn't use it. Only the Vong and the Voids are untouched by the Force. And every superweapon the Halo universe would use would run the risk of creating more wounds, which can only be destroyed by force wielders and lack a physical body, the Halo Arrays would have zero affect. Every time you'd use a superweapon, so long as one miserable force sensitive survived and was emotionally crushed, good night.
>Everyone goes into shield worlds

>Sentinals activate Halo Array two times

>Everyone comes out to finish off the rest of the Star Wars universe.

I don't think you'd understand the point that they'd be immune to the halo array, because when they turn into a void, their body implodes and their form is only their will. They're like Nazgul, only one could clean through an entire fleet in a few seconds.

And again, hyperspace, plus the Celestials, which would simply influence events or even have a direct intervention. For all we know, they could cause the Halo Array to immediately explode.
>Sends anything left into eternal Slipspace

For -blam!-'s sake, are you retarded? They are deities. As in god-like beings. Think Cthulhu. Yahweh. Allah. They aren't made of matter, or energy. They are made purely 'of' the force because they are the force. It'd be like trying to destroy the Q Continuum. They're Omnipotent. Being masters of the force, they could influence events so that when the Halo Arrays are fired, their fuel source detonates and wipes out everyone on the Ark.

You aren't fighting a race. You're fighting Gods. Actual Gods. Ones that can't die, be banished, or harmed in any way. The minute all life in Star Wars is wiped out, they cause a civil war, or simply plant new life and accelerate it. They're above tier 0. Same with the Chaos Demons that came before the Celestials and simply vanished. Indestructible creatures that even if their universe was destroyed, would simply seep into another and take over.

This is why you can only have Star Wars fight Warhammer, Doctor Who, and Star Trek (although with ST, all the races would be destroyed and only the Q would remain.) All four have actual omnipotent indestructible deities which can mind-blam!- the pathetic creatures.

To the Celestials and Chaos Demons, the Precursors would look like ants.

  • 10.17.2012 6:02 PM PDT

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I look at it this way, A single Halo can wipe large portions of a galaxy clean of sentient life. To my knowledge there isn't anything in the Star Wars uni that can do that.

  • 10.17.2012 6:03 PM PDT

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The only actual universe that Star Wars would lose to easily is Doctor Who. Because the Timelords could just go back in time and kill the Celestials before they evolved.

Also, good game.

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Posted by: alex0612 -snip-
Darth Nihilus can kill entire planets instantly. I've stated this many times before. And no, the Halo guys would be touched by the force, they only couldn't use it. Only the Vong and the Voids are untouched by the Force. And every superweapon the Halo universe would use would run the risk of creating more wounds, which can only be destroyed by force wielders and lack a physical body, the Halo Arrays would have zero affect. Every time you'd use a superweapon, so long as one miserable force sensitive survived and was emotionally crushed, good night.
>Everyone goes into shield worlds

>Sentinals activate Halo Array two times

>Everyone comes out to finish off the rest of the Star Wars universe.


>Everyone gets thunderstomped before they can get to the Shield Worlds.

>Death Star blows up the Halos. If not the Death Star then some really, really hardcore Force-user magic knight guy.

>Nobody gets to the Shield Worlds in the first place.

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Do not waste your tears, I was not born to watch the world grow dim. Life is not measured in years, but by the deeds of men.

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Posted by: alex0612

You still haven't given me that source for Halo destroying universes.

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Posted by: alex0612

Posted by: Wyzilla

Posted by: alex0612 -snip-
Darth Nihilus can kill entire planets instantly. I've stated this many times before. And no, the Halo guys would be touched by the force, they only couldn't use it. Only the Vong and the Voids are untouched by the Force. And every superweapon the Halo universe would use would run the risk of creating more wounds, which can only be destroyed by force wielders and lack a physical body, the Halo Arrays would have zero affect. Every time you'd use a superweapon, so long as one miserable force sensitive survived and was emotionally crushed, good night.
>Everyone goes into shield worlds

>Sentinals activate Halo Array two times

>Everyone comes out to finish off the rest of the Star Wars universe.


>Everyone gets thunderstomped before they can get to the Shield Worlds.

>Death Star blows up the Halos. If not the Death Star then some really, really hardcore Force-user magic knight guy.

>Nobody gets to the Shield Worlds in the first place.


Or y'know, the uber-powerful race that ascended to godhood pops down and roflstomps Halo to defend its 'children'.


Also, I do wish that Star Wars canon would elaborate more on the Celestials and Chaos Demons, the details are sketchy. Then again, I like it that way. Reminds me of how the Forerunners used to be.

[Edited on 10.17.2012 6:09 PM PDT]

  • 10.17.2012 6:08 PM PDT
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I look at it this way, A single Halo can wipe large portions of a galaxy clean of sentient life. To my knowledge there isn't anything in the Star Wars uni that can do that.


Read the post directly above yours. They may not be super weapons, but they'll still turn the tide of the war.


Also, Star Wars has multiple weapons capable of destroying planets.

And there are two individuals that can drain the life out of creatures to gain strength.

  • 10.17.2012 6:08 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

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Whaaaat, I finished this on page five!

This game is stupid...

  • 10.17.2012 6:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: SweetTRIX
I look at it this way, A single Halo can wipe large portions of a galaxy clean of sentient life. To my knowledge there isn't anything in the Star Wars uni that can do that.


Read the post directly above yours. They may not be super weapons, but they'll still turn the tide of the war.


Also, Star Wars has multiple weapons capable of destroying planets.

And there are two individuals that can drain the life out of creatures to gain strength.


There's also a race of lizardmen in the Unknown Regions with a massive fleet that use souls as fuel.

  • 10.17.2012 6:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: Mzone7

Posted by: SweetTRIX
I look at it this way, A single Halo can wipe large portions of a galaxy clean of sentient life. To my knowledge there isn't anything in the Star Wars uni that can do that.


Read the post directly above yours. They may not be super weapons, but they'll still turn the tide of the war.


Also, Star Wars has multiple weapons capable of destroying planets.

And there are two individuals that can drain the life out of creatures to gain strength.

Yea I saw that post after the fact. I am a little curious to know how they would react to the Halos if they were tuned differently though. Halo Cryptum implies that Halo's can be targeted, I wonder how such a thing could me made to effect those beings mentioned.

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Posted by: SweetTRIX

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Posted by: SweetTRIX
I look at it this way, A single Halo can wipe large portions of a galaxy clean of sentient life. To my knowledge there isn't anything in the Star Wars uni that can do that.


Read the post directly above yours. They may not be super weapons, but they'll still turn the tide of the war.


Also, Star Wars has multiple weapons capable of destroying planets.

And there are two individuals that can drain the life out of creatures to gain strength.

Yea I saw that post after the fact. I am a little curious to know how they would react to the Halos if they were tuned differently though. Halo Cryptum implies that Halo's can be targeted, I wonder how such a thing could me made to effect those beings mentioned.

The force is an extradimensional field of energy. Kinda like Darkmatter, but a bit stronger. Again though, they'd probably roflstomp it before it was tuned to their 'frequency' (if that's possible. At best, maybe a possible shockwave through the force? It'd hurt force sensitives, but not the Celestials. They don't really live in it, those that are good become a part of it. However, personalities and consciousness can be preserved by the stronger individuals.

It's hard to surprise something that's everywhere though.

  • 10.17.2012 6:18 PM PDT

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@Wyzilla

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The only actual universe that Star Wars would lose to easily is Doctor Who. Because the Timelords could just go back in time and kill the Celestials before they evolved.

Also, good game.


Haha, so could the Necrons and their newfangled hocus pocus crypteks

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@Wyzilla

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The only actual universe that Star Wars would lose to easily is Doctor Who. Because the Timelords could just go back in time and kill the Celestials before they evolved.

Also, good game.


Haha, so could the Necrons and their newfangled hocus pocus crypteks

The Necrons would be wiped the -blam!- out by Star Wars' insta kill disruptors.

Now the C'tan, that's another issue.
Although Orks would likely win, with the Chaos Gods and Celestials hiding in the basement as an Ork leader in a WAAAGH! dubbed a a crowbar his 'C'tan Beat Stick' and proceeded to kill off the C'tan.

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Posted by: Wyzilla

Posted by: alex0612
@Wyzilla

Congratulations. You just won an internet fight.

*Claps*

The only actual universe that Star Wars would lose to easily is Doctor Who. Because the Timelords could just go back in time and kill the Celestials before they evolved.

Also, good game.


Haha, so could the Necrons and their newfangled hocus pocus crypteks

Back in the oldcron's days, they won wars with soldiers not fancy schmancy time travelers!

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Posted by: Wyzilla

Posted by: alex0612 -snip-
Darth Nihilus can kill entire planets instantly. I've stated this many times before. And no, the Halo guys would be touched by the force, they only couldn't use it. Only the Vong and the Voids are untouched by the Force. And every superweapon the Halo universe would use would run the risk of creating more wounds, which can only be destroyed by force wielders and lack a physical body, the Halo Arrays would have zero affect. Every time you'd use a superweapon, so long as one miserable force sensitive survived and was emotionally crushed, good night.
>Everyone goes into shield worlds

>Sentinals activate Halo Array two times

>Everyone comes out to finish off the rest of the Star Wars universe.
Droid armies active protocol and take over the fleet. Cloning commences, and an army of a few quintillion is done in a weeks time with the Thrawn method.
"Forerunner AI's and UNSC smart AI's can hack into systems without physical contact,this is something Star Wars never encountered before.Cortana was able to hack a 128000 bit molulating key,someone at spacebattles explains how impressive it is:

To put it in perspective, a 128,000 bit encryption is 6.919e+38,531 potential combinations. To crack it, she would have to come up with a statistically significant portion of the potential combinations in order to do it. Worse, the encryption was modulating, which means it probably chnaged a few times while she was attempting to crack it.

Nattuo:
So she can probably process about the amount of information represented by the total combination count in only a couple of seconds. To put this amount of information in persepective if it took Cortana a trillion years to crack the combination, and she got lucky and did it after only accounting for a millionth of the potential combinations(and it did not modulate at any point) she'd be able to simulate the position, vector and other properties of every atom in our universe(assuming there are 10^90 atoms, and each required a magabit a second to simulate) 2.2*10^38,410 times. To put that in more recognisable numbers It's simulating so many trillions of universes, that even stacking the orders of magnitude end on end(a trillion trillion being 10^24) you'd need to repeat the word trillion about 3,200 times to account for all the orders of magnitude.

That's a tillion trillion ... 3,197 more "trillion"s .... trillion universes simulated simultaneously in real time.

Yet this AI is easily dwarved by a monitor.Let alone the higher ancillas and metarch,let's not even mention a contender."


Don't forget the fact that a Sith Lord could simply come into contact with an AI and instantly corrupt it to their side. E.G. all AI's would have to be kept under lock and key lest the Sith gain control of an even larger army.

Kinda the same with Warhammer and the Orks. Although insanely evil, the Sith will end up being the saviors of the Star Wars universe against the greatest threat that will assault them.

  • 10.17.2012 7:43 PM PDT

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  • 10.17.2012 7:50 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wyzilla

Don't forget the fact that a Sith Lord could simply come into contact with an AI and instantly corrupt it to their side. E.G. all AI's would have to be kept under lock and key lest the Sith gain control of an even larger army.

Kinda the same with Warhammer and the Orks. Although insanely evil, the Sith will end up being the saviors of the Star Wars universe against the greatest threat that will assault them.


And we've never seen an example of a Sith doing something like that...

<.< >.>

Yeah...not at all...

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Posted by: Wyzilla

Don't forget the fact that a Sith Lord could simply come into contact with an AI and instantly corrupt it to their side. E.G. all AI's would have to be kept under lock and key lest the Sith gain control of an even larger army.

Kinda the same with Warhammer and the Orks. Although insanely evil, the Sith will end up being the saviors of the Star Wars universe against the greatest threat that will assault them.


And we've never seen an example of a Sith doing something like that...

<.< >.>

Yeah...not at all...

They can manipulate and completely jack the minds of droids and the higher-ups can use Force Corrupt or Force Insanity on sentient minds, and Smart AI's could fall victim.

  • 10.17.2012 7:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wyzilla

Don't forget the fact that a Sith Lord could simply come into contact with an AI and instantly corrupt it to their side. E.G. all AI's would have to be kept under lock and key lest the Sith gain control of an even larger army.

Kinda the same with Warhammer and the Orks. Although insanely evil, the Sith will end up being the saviors of the Star Wars universe against the greatest threat that will assault them.


And we've never seen an example of a Sith doing something like that...

<.< >.>

Yeah...not at all...

They can manipulate and completely jack the minds of droids and the higher-ups can use Force Corrupt or Force Insanity on sentient minds, and Smart AI's could fall victim.


...2nd paragraph...and somewhat sarcastic...

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Posted by: Wyzilla

Don't forget the fact that a Sith Lord could simply come into contact with an AI and instantly corrupt it to their side. E.G. all AI's would have to be kept under lock and key lest the Sith gain control of an even larger army.

Kinda the same with Warhammer and the Orks. Although insanely evil, the Sith will end up being the saviors of the Star Wars universe against the greatest threat that will assault them.


And we've never seen an example of a Sith doing something like that...

<.< >.>

Yeah...not at all...

They can manipulate and completely jack the minds of droids and the higher-ups can use Force Corrupt or Force Insanity on sentient minds, and Smart AI's could fall victim.


...2nd paragraph...and somewhat sarcastic...


Oh, that.

And no, the Sith will prove saviors. They're the main muscle, as they don't restrain themselves like the Jedi, and are able to open cans of whoopass on invaders.

  • 10.17.2012 8:39 PM PDT

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Trying to get Waypoint to update Halo 3 stats in detail like here. Now no one can see that my Halo 3 Spartan no longer looks like my Reach Spartan.

Really want to be a Heroic member or have a title. :/

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Decided to do some searching.

Executor Class Star Destroyer
The reactor has an output of 773,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts.
To compare: Our sun outputs 386,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts.
That single Star Destroyer can generate more than twice the energy than our local star can.

The death star's laser can output 240,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts onto a single point.

Centerpoint Station is another superweapon with immense output.
I cannot find any figures, but it has been used to destroy stars.
Segment from a book about the firing of the station
[quote]Agents of Chaos - Jedi Eclipse - James Luceno - Pg 327
"All at once, a flash of radiant energy illuminated local space. From Rimward of Fondor's outermost moon, or perhaps gushed from hyperspace itself, came a torrent of starfire a thousand kilometers wide. Coalescing into a savage beam of focused annihilation, it tore into the midst of the dispersing Hapan fleet, consuming every ship in its path, atomizing some in the blink of an eye and holing others with spears of seething light. Weapons, superstructure, and antennae vaporized by the skewering beam, the ships exploded outward, vanishing in globes of brilliant mass-energy conversions. Even those ships outside the limits of the beam were hurled violently off course, slagged along their inward-facing sides, or thrown into collisions with one another. The mated saucers of the Battle Dragons broke apart and disintegrated, and the battle cruisers were snapped like twigs. Fighter groups vanished without a trace."


A covenant CSO Class Supercarrier is larger then a super star destroyer so it must have a more powerful fusion reactor. Not to mention that one forerunner dreadnought was able to generate enough energy to power High Charity.

  • 10.28.2012 1:50 PM PDT

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Posted by: catman6
Decided to do some searching.

Executor Class Star Destroyer
The reactor has an output of 773,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts.
To compare: Our sun outputs 386,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts.
That single Star Destroyer can generate more than twice the energy than our local star can.

The death star's laser can output 240,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts onto a single point.

Centerpoint Station is another superweapon with immense output.
I cannot find any figures, but it has been used to destroy stars.
Segment from a book about the firing of the station
[quote]Agents of Chaos - Jedi Eclipse - James Luceno - Pg 327
"All at once, a flash of radiant energy illuminated local space. From Rimward of Fondor's outermost moon, or perhaps gushed from hyperspace itself, came a torrent of starfire a thousand kilometers wide. Coalescing into a savage beam of focused annihilation, it tore into the midst of the dispersing Hapan fleet, consuming every ship in its path, atomizing some in the blink of an eye and holing others with spears of seething light. Weapons, superstructure, and antennae vaporized by the skewering beam, the ships exploded outward, vanishing in globes of brilliant mass-energy conversions. Even those ships outside the limits of the beam were hurled violently off course, slagged along their inward-facing sides, or thrown into collisions with one another. The mated saucers of the Battle Dragons broke apart and disintegrated, and the battle cruisers were snapped like twigs. Fighter groups vanished without a trace."


A covenant CSO Class Supercarrier is larger then a super star destroyer so it must have a more powerful fusion reactor. Not to mention that one forerunner dreadnought was able to generate enough energy to power High Charity.

Buddy, High Charity is nothing compared to the fact that the Empire built a space station the size of a moon.

[Edited on 10.28.2012 2:14 PM PDT]

  • 10.28.2012 2:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: KaneXX12
Posted by: catman6
Decided to do some searching.

Executor Class Star Destroyer
The reactor has an output of 773,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts.
To compare: Our sun outputs 386,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts.
That single Star Destroyer can generate more than twice the energy than our local star can.

The death star's laser can output 240,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts onto a single point.

Centerpoint Station is another superweapon with immense output.
I cannot find any figures, but it has been used to destroy stars.
Segment from a book about the firing of the station
[quote]Agents of Chaos - Jedi Eclipse - James Luceno - Pg 327
"All at once, a flash of radiant energy illuminated local space. From Rimward of Fondor's outermost moon, or perhaps gushed from hyperspace itself, came a torrent of starfire a thousand kilometers wide. Coalescing into a savage beam of focused annihilation, it tore into the midst of the dispersing Hapan fleet, consuming every ship in its path, atomizing some in the blink of an eye and holing others with spears of seething light. Weapons, superstructure, and antennae vaporized by the skewering beam, the ships exploded outward, vanishing in globes of brilliant mass-energy conversions. Even those ships outside the limits of the beam were hurled violently off course, slagged along their inward-facing sides, or thrown into collisions with one another. The mated saucers of the Battle Dragons broke apart and disintegrated, and the battle cruisers were snapped like twigs. Fighter groups vanished without a trace."


A covenant CSO Class Supercarrier is larger then a super star destroyer so it must have a more powerful fusion reactor. Not to mention that one forerunner dreadnought was able to generate enough energy to power High Charity.

Buddy, High Charity is nothing compared to the fact that the Empire built a space station the size of a moon.

The forerunners use 100km ships created out of light.
A single forerunner is capable of controlling millions of combat drones, each drone makes damage visible from orbit, turning over continents was done by an outdated suit.

Seriously everyone here is severly overestimating the sith and jedi. Apparently they can do anything even if never done previously before so i raise you up the forerunners can destroy entire galaxies, and precursors have technology linking every single thing in the universe together.

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Posted by: TehWarMoose

Posted by: KaneXX12
Posted by: catman6
Decided to do some searching.

Executor Class Star Destroyer
The reactor has an output of 773,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts.
To compare: Our sun outputs 386,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts.
That single Star Destroyer can generate more than twice the energy than our local star can.

The death star's laser can output 240,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts onto a single point.

Centerpoint Station is another superweapon with immense output.
I cannot find any figures, but it has been used to destroy stars.
Segment from a book about the firing of the station
[quote]Agents of Chaos - Jedi Eclipse - James Luceno - Pg 327
"All at once, a flash of radiant energy illuminated local space. From Rimward of Fondor's outermost moon, or perhaps gushed from hyperspace itself, came a torrent of starfire a thousand kilometers wide. Coalescing into a savage beam of focused annihilation, it tore into the midst of the dispersing Hapan fleet, consuming every ship in its path, atomizing some in the blink of an eye and holing others with spears of seething light. Weapons, superstructure, and antennae vaporized by the skewering beam, the ships exploded outward, vanishing in globes of brilliant mass-energy conversions. Even those ships outside the limits of the beam were hurled violently off course, slagged along their inward-facing sides, or thrown into collisions with one another. The mated saucers of the Battle Dragons broke apart and disintegrated, and the battle cruisers were snapped like twigs. Fighter groups vanished without a trace."


A covenant CSO Class Supercarrier is larger then a super star destroyer so it must have a more powerful fusion reactor. Not to mention that one forerunner dreadnought was able to generate enough energy to power High Charity.

Buddy, High Charity is nothing compared to the fact that the Empire built a space station the size of a moon.


High Charity is a CITY the size of a moon.

  • 10.28.2012 2:53 PM PDT