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Subject: Who would win? Halo Universe or Star Wars Universe?

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Posted by: SubtleSpartan
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Arrogance, Impatientness? We will most likely never know. It doesn't stop them from being able to bioengineer the greatest threat to organic life in the halo universe or being any less efficient at combat.
The fact of the matter is, for a supposedly god like race, they don't seem all too powerful if their own inferior creations backfired on them.

This tells me either:

- The Precursors are retarded.

or

- They're not as powerful as we once thought.

Ok, so the fact that no forerunner weapons could damage the timeless ones prison obviously proves they are superior to the precursors. You can't just scream one point really loudly in an attempt to drown out all the others. We have NO IDEA how the forerunners defeated them. It could have been pot luck or the precursors could have been retarded. But don't just assume they're retarded because it fits your arguement.

I'm not. All I'm saying is, it doesn't exactly give the Precursors a good reputation, if lesser beings managed to not just defeat them, but completely and utterly destroy their entire species with but only one remaining.

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Posted by: Milky Bravo
-The Rings


True.

-MAC rounds
-Cleansing beam
-Pulse cannons
-Mass Drivers


These are not super-weapons. At least, not nearly in the same league as the Halo Array or the Death Star.

-Advanced Technology

Such as...?

-Scarabs and other devastating aircrafts
-AA guns


See above. Scarabs are regularly taken out by one guy who strolled on up and attacked its weak spot for massive damage after rather easily crippling its legs.

Not to mention they're slow as hell.

-strong,powerful enemies

Such as...?

-heavy artilery vehicles

See above.

  • 10.15.2012 5:45 AM PDT
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I think the star wars fanboys fail to see just how powerful the precursors are each one of them is essentially a god and thier creations can only be destroyed with a halo array
With this conclusion I don't understand how the jedi will be able to simply "rip apart" the fleet of gods
face it you are essentially argueing who would win:Star Wars universe or thousands of GODS

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Also halo rings destroy structures as well so the droids would get wiped as well.

Structures aren't sentient life forms -_-
You should feel pretty stupid right about now.

No, they can destroy structures. Read forerunner novels before you enter a debate about the forerunners.

Precursor structures used neural physics to connect everything together and they were thought to be indestructible, however a halo test fire annihilated the structures.
Also halo can be fine tuned to fire differently for ranges and frequencies.
You should feel pretty stupid now.

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Posted by: Da Real Caboose
Honestly dude, the Star Wars universe is just OP. Stories always try to one up another and they're nothing holding it back.


Being able to beat Halo =/= OP. I don't think anybody but the fans care about who would win in a fight.

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Posted by: Sergeant Donut
I think the star wars fanboys fail to see just how powerful the precursors are each one of them is essentially a god and thier creations can only be destroyed with a halo array
With this conclusion I don't understand how the jedi will be able to simply "rip apart" the fleet of gods
face it you are essentially argueing who would win:Star Wars universe or thousands of GODS


They're obviously not gods if the Forerunners wiped out an entire species of them.

Then again the Forerunners got wiped out by fungus zombies that get killed by average bullets so power is all over the place in the Haloverse.

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Posted by: Sergeant Donut
I think the star wars fanboys fail to see just how powerful the precursors are each one of them is essentially a god and thier creations can only be destroyed with a halo array
With this conclusion I don't understand how the jedi will be able to simply "rip apart" the fleet of gods
face it you are essentially argueing who would win:Star Wars universe or thousands of GODS


They're obviously not gods if the Forerunners wiped out an entire species of them.

Then again the Forerunners got wiped out by fungus zombies that get killed by average bullets so power is all over the place in the Haloverse.

The precursors are believed to still exist outside the galaxy waiting to test humanity for the mantle. Also the forerunners are believed to stolen precursor weapons to win the war.
Finally the flood the forerunners were fighting were vastly superior to the unsc flood. The forerunner flood had forerunner ships which annihilate anything.

Also forerunner ships>star wars ships. 100km fortress vessel made of mostly light contains thousands of guns and ships. Four of these small cruisers ships were enough to destroy a halo ring putting there power calculated to be in the exatons (if i remember correctly, been a while since i saw the calcs).

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Halo Universe wins solely because of the Forerunners and Precursors, and maybe the Flood. However, the Star Wars Universe has several ancient races like the Rakatta and the Celestials that we know extremely little about.

But the Covenant and UNSC would be roflstomped by the Republic, Empire, CIS, Rebellion, Jedi and Sith. They would be outnumbered on the order of 100,000:1.

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Posted by: KaneXX12
It would not kill everything in the halo universe, because there are still AI's, monitors, sentinels, and everyone who went into a shield world, or outside the galaxy.

Then the Covenant would be dead, the UNSC would be dead (although that wouldn't really matter anyway) and the majority of the Forerunners (you guessed it) would be dead. That's half of the Haloverse already taken out.

And may I ask how Sidious can create wormholes?
Here ya go.

If one force user can do that to an entire fleet in the Star Wars verse, it's safe to say Halo is pretty screwed.


According to the article, Sidious was consumed by one of his own storms. And with the technology of the humans and covenant now, they can probably make an artificial storm via slipspace. And If the majority of of humans and covenant go into the shield world while the rings fire, they get saved. There are also monitors like Spark, and sentinels. And I don't mean just the standard sentinels. I mean them and sentinel enforcers or larger. Plus, you still have the prometheans and AI's which can control UNSC and covie ships.

  • 10.15.2012 12:45 PM PDT

Subject: If you saw a meteor coming toward Earth, what would you do?Posted by: juniorbandit96
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Decided to do some searching.

Executor Class Star Destroyer
The reactor has an output of 773,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts.
To compare: Our sun outputs 386,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts.
That single Star Destroyer can generate more than twice the energy than our local star can.

The death star's laser can output 240,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts onto a single point.

Centerpoint Station is another superweapon with immense output.
I cannot find any figures, but it has been used to destroy stars.
Segment from a book about the firing of the station
Agents of Chaos - Jedi Eclipse - James Luceno - Pg 327
"All at once, a flash of radiant energy illuminated local space. From Rimward of Fondor's outermost moon, or perhaps gushed from hyperspace itself, came a torrent of starfire a thousand kilometers wide. Coalescing into a savage beam of focused annihilation, it tore into the midst of the dispersing Hapan fleet, consuming every ship in its path, atomizing some in the blink of an eye and holing others with spears of seething light. Weapons, superstructure, and antennae vaporized by the skewering beam, the ships exploded outward, vanishing in globes of brilliant mass-energy conversions. Even those ships outside the limits of the beam were hurled violently off course, slagged along their inward-facing sides, or thrown into collisions with one another. The mated saucers of the Battle Dragons broke apart and disintegrated, and the battle cruisers were snapped like twigs. Fighter groups vanished without a trace."


Could someone calculate or find sources for power outputs of Halo craft?

  • 10.15.2012 1:09 PM PDT


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Decided to do some searching.

Executor Class Star Destroyer
The reactor has an output of 773,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts.
To compare: Our sun outputs 386,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts.
That single Star Destroyer can generate more than twice the energy than our local star can.

The death star's laser can output 240,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts onto a single point.

Centerpoint Station is another superweapon with immense output.
I cannot find any figures, but it has been used to destroy stars.
Segment from a book about the firing of the station
Agents of Chaos - Jedi Eclipse - James Luceno - Pg 327
"All at once, a flash of radiant energy illuminated local space. From Rimward of Fondor's outermost moon, or perhaps gushed from hyperspace itself, came a torrent of starfire a thousand kilometers wide. Coalescing into a savage beam of focused annihilation, it tore into the midst of the dispersing Hapan fleet, consuming every ship in its path, atomizing some in the blink of an eye and holing others with spears of seething light. Weapons, superstructure, and antennae vaporized by the skewering beam, the ships exploded outward, vanishing in globes of brilliant mass-energy conversions. Even those ships outside the limits of the beam were hurled violently off course, slagged along their inward-facing sides, or thrown into collisions with one another. The mated saucers of the Battle Dragons broke apart and disintegrated, and the battle cruisers were snapped like twigs. Fighter groups vanished without a trace."


Could someone calculate or find sources for power outputs of Halo craft?
Due to the Forerunners, no matter what Star Wars can put out, Halo would win.

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Posted by: catman6
Decided to do some searching.

Executor Class Star Destroyer
The reactor has an output of 773,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts.
To compare: Our sun outputs 386,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts.
That single Star Destroyer can generate more than twice the energy than our local star can.

The death star's laser can output 240,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts onto a single point.

Centerpoint Station is another superweapon with immense output.
I cannot find any figures, but it has been used to destroy stars.
Segment from a book about the firing of the station
Agents of Chaos - Jedi Eclipse - James Luceno - Pg 327
"All at once, a flash of radiant energy illuminated local space. From Rimward of Fondor's outermost moon, or perhaps gushed from hyperspace itself, came a torrent of starfire a thousand kilometers wide. Coalescing into a savage beam of focused annihilation, it tore into the midst of the dispersing Hapan fleet, consuming every ship in its path, atomizing some in the blink of an eye and holing others with spears of seething light. Weapons, superstructure, and antennae vaporized by the skewering beam, the ships exploded outward, vanishing in globes of brilliant mass-energy conversions. Even those ships outside the limits of the beam were hurled violently off course, slagged along their inward-facing sides, or thrown into collisions with one another. The mated saucers of the Battle Dragons broke apart and disintegrated, and the battle cruisers were snapped like twigs. Fighter groups vanished without a trace."


Could someone calculate or find sources for power outputs of Halo craft?

Well we know that the UNSC uses fusion reactors which are basically miniature suns, so less output than actual stars. We also know that covies use an extremely advanced fusion reactor, which have a ridiculously higher energy output since the UNSC fusion reactors can't even produce enough power to maintain shielding over a cabin, let alone a several kilometer long ship.

And since the covenant use scavenged forerunner tech, we can assume the forerunners had significantly higher energy output than the covenant do. So the UNSC is royally -blam!- unless MAC blasts have some special effect against SW ships.

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Posted by: KaneXX12
According to the article, Sidious was consumed by one of his own storms.

Yeah Sidious can be overconfident and boastful sometimes. He probably would've been able to control the storm if not for his vanity and power lust. Definitely with the Dark Staff.

And with the technology of the humans and covenant now, they can probably make an artificial storm via slipspace
Now you're just making baseless assumptions.

And If the majority of of humans and covenant go into the shield world while the rings fire, they get saved.
That process would be long and rather laborious to carry out. It would take a considerable amount of time to gather all the fleets together and slipspace over there. Not to mention the SW universe isn't exactly going to be waiting around, idly twiddling their thumbs.

Not forgetting the fact the Death Star could just one shot the Shield Worlds either.

There are also monitors like Spark, and sentinels. And I don't mean just the standard sentinels. I mean them and sentinel enforcers or larger. Plus, you still have the prometheans and AI's which can control UNSC and covie ships.
Cool. Star Wars has the Star Forge which manufactures artificial soldiers in the millions, possibly billions.

  • 10.15.2012 1:27 PM PDT

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Just figure one thing out: Disregarding who would in in space, the Halo forces would decimate SW in ground combat. And before anyone says Jedi & sith, I say jackal snipers. I know jedi have good reflexes but beam rifles fire at the speed of light, most if not all force users aren't skilled enough in the force to counter that.

  • 10.15.2012 1:35 PM PDT

Subject: If you saw a meteor coming toward Earth, what would you do?Posted by: juniorbandit96
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Posted by: SubtleSpartan
Just figure one thing out: Disregarding who would in in space, the Halo forces would decimate SW in ground combat. And before anyone says Jedi & sith, I say jackal snipers. I know jedi have good reflexes but beam rifles fire at the speed of light, most if not all force users aren't skilled enough in the force to counter that.
Blaster shots from Star Wars travel at light speed. Also
Users who were very good at using the Force could cease merely reacting to their surroundings and actually predict events in the very near future, such as the next blow in a duel.

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Posted by: SubtleSpartan
Just figure one thing out: Disregarding who would in in space, the Halo forces would decimate SW in ground combat. And before anyone says Jedi & sith, I say jackal snipers. I know jedi have good reflexes but beam rifles fire at the speed of light, most if not all force users aren't skilled enough in the force to counter that.


No, Beam Rifles do not fire at the speed of light. Beam Rifles are actually Particle Beam Rifles and directed energy weapons, meaning that they fire ionized particles that have mass. Massless lasers fire at the speed of light, particles are not fired at the speed of light. The energy required to fire particles at the speed of light is just too ridiculous.

  • 10.15.2012 1:39 PM PDT

So, ummm, Star Wars wins?

  • 10.15.2012 2:27 PM PDT

Anyone who remembers this thread knows that Halo wins.

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Ah, this Vs. thread again. Let's see, Star Wars and Halo universes have huge amounts of people when you think about it. You have war-bred Spartans, basically the back-bone of the Halo Universe (Not much variation in strength/abilities to kill). Yet you have on the other hand, the Jedi/Sith as the Star Wars Universe's back-bone (a lot more jedi/sith combined than Spartans that were ever trained, but definetly large variations in their strengths and abilities, i.e. a Padawan/Apprentice and a full-pledged Master/Darth).

Can't decide, I love both, so it's like a fight between my childhood (SW) and the things I love now (SW and Halo).

*List of some of the strongest people I know of in both universes.*
-Star Wars:
1. Revan
2. Emperor
3. Anakin
4. Luke
5. Obi

-Halo:
1. Master Chief
2. Arbiter
3. Johnson
4. The previous Arbiters
5. Spartans (all of them)

*Notice how I didn't include anything a Fanboy would use as an argument, like the Rings (Halos) or the Death Star(s). It just offsets everything, argueing over who would survive what, and would just lead to everyone acting like children over a Vs. thread that's been around way too much*

  • 10.15.2012 2:47 PM PDT


Posted by: carpet brain
Ah, this Vs. thread again. Let's see, Star Wars and Halo universes have huge amounts of people when you think about it. You have war-bred Spartans, basically the back-bone of the Halo Universe (Not much variation in strength/abilities to kill). Yet you have on the other hand, the Jedi/Sith as the Star Wars Universe's back-bone (a lot more jedi/sith combined than Spartans that were ever trained, but definetly large variations in their strengths and abilities, i.e. a Padawan/Apprentice and a full-pledged Master/Darth).

Can't decide, I love both, so it's like a fight between my childhood (SW) and the things I love now (SW and Halo).

*List of some of the strongest people I know of in both universes.*
-Star Wars:
1. Revan
2. Emperor
3. Anakin
4. Luke
5. Obi

-Halo:
1. Master Chief
2. Arbiter
3. Johnson
4. The previous Arbiters
5. Spartans (all of them)

*Notice how I didn't include anything a Fanboy would use as an argument, like the Rings (Halos) or the Death Star(s). It just offsets everything, argueing over who would survive what, and would just lead to everyone acting like children over a Vs. thread that's been around way too much*
Well as much as I love Halo, and as much as I know Halo would win in a full on war, the character you listed above would destroy the Halo characters.

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Posted by: carpet brain
Ah, this Vs. thread again. Let's see, Star Wars and Halo universes have huge amounts of people when you think about it. You have war-bred Spartans, basically the back-bone of the Halo Universe (Not much variation in strength/abilities to kill). Yet you have on the other hand, the Jedi/Sith as the Star Wars Universe's back-bone (a lot more jedi/sith combined than Spartans that were ever trained, but definetly large variations in their strengths and abilities, i.e. a Padawan/Apprentice and a full-pledged Master/Darth).

Can't decide, I love both, so it's like a fight between my childhood (SW) and the things I love now (SW and Halo).

*List of some of the strongest people I know of in both universes.*
-Star Wars:
1. Revan
2. Emperor
3. Anakin
4. Luke
5. Obi

-Halo:
1. Master Chief
2. Arbiter
3. Johnson
4. The previous Arbiters
5. Spartans (all of them)

*Notice how I didn't include anything a Fanboy would use as an argument, like the Rings (Halos) or the Death Star(s). It just offsets everything, argueing over who would survive what, and would just lead to everyone acting like children over a Vs. thread that's been around way too much*
Well as much as I love Halo, and as much as I know Halo would win in a full on war, the character you listed above would destroy the Halo characters.
I don't see how Halo could win. The clone army alone was as big as the UNSC almost

  • 10.15.2012 2:55 PM PDT

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  • 10.15.2012 3:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: WEE MAN MJJC
Palpatine can create wormholes with the force. Star Wars also has Boba Fett. They automatically win.

Now, there's obviously going to be some hardcore Halo fans flooding in (no pun intended) toting the Halo rings around like some kind of unstoppable death force. As the other guy posted above me, they will not work on the likes of Battle droids and possibly force sensitive users. Not to mention, it would kill everything in the Halo universe as well.


Darth Nihilus. He alone would -blam!- everyone over and unite everyone, because he killed an entire planet's population by simply speaking a word. Not to mention Star Wars has Disruptors, which are LOLPOWERFUL guns that ignore shields of any sort and vaporize matter, irregardless of what its made of. The forerunners might as well be butt naked armed with toy guns compared to the crazy -blam!- Star Wars has. It's largely due to the fact that Star Wars is Soft Sci Fi (meaning it gives the finger to realism) and is extremely old, extremely powerful, and has fantasy elements. The Celestials (more powerful than the Precursors) likely melded with the force, and is likely the reason why in Star Wars, the light side always prevails in the end. Meaning that Star Wars would win purely by 'luck' alone.

  • 10.15.2012 3:26 PM PDT