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Posted by: Spartan1995324

Posted by: ErranInfigo

Posted by: Spartan1995324
That Covenant ship is puny! OF COURSE the Infinity tore right through it.

I thought the Infinity had rammed into a Covenant ship of equal size. I am not very impressed...


Titanium-A battleplate is -blam!- -blam!- compared to its covenant equivalent, the fact that the infinity looked like the windshield of a car after it rammed the Battlecruiser, I'd say it's a pretty powerful ship.
That's like the Pillar of Autumn ramming into a Phantom. Of course it will tear the thing apart.

Had the Infinity gone up against something at least half it's size I would be slightly impressed.


Uh.

No.

If a Human Cruiser were to ram a Covenant Frigate, it would probably disable the Cruiser.

There was literally no visible structural damage.

[Edited on 10.30.2012 6:13 PM PDT]

  • 10.30.2012 6:12 PM PDT


Posted by: ErranInfigo

Posted by: Spartan1995324

Posted by: ErranInfigo

Posted by: Spartan1995324
That Covenant ship is puny! OF COURSE the Infinity tore right through it.

I thought the Infinity had rammed into a Covenant ship of equal size. I am not very impressed...


Titanium-A battleplate is -blam!- -blam!- compared to its covenant equivalent, the fact that the infinity looked like the windshield of a car after it rammed the Battlecruiser, I'd say it's a pretty powerful ship.
That's like the Pillar of Autumn ramming into a Phantom. Of course it will tear the thing apart.

Had the Infinity gone up against something at least half it's size I would be slightly impressed.


Uh.

No.

If a Human Cruiser were to ram a Covenant Frigate, it would probably disable the Cruiser.

There was literally no visible structural damage.
Uh yeah. The Pillar of Autumn would tear through a PHANTOM. A PHANTOM.

Not a frigate. Reason I say The Autumn vs a phantom is because it's obvious the larger object would win. Same deal there with the Infinity, the Infinity was like three times the size of that Covenant ship.

  • 10.30.2012 7:20 PM PDT

Posted by: Spartan1995324
The Prophets ordered a genocide. I don't think they cared much about the Write of Union at that point.


No, but the Elites did, regardless of whether Truth did or not, until the time was right he would be doing his best to keep the Elites from getting too pissed off and revolting before he was ready...thus having to take things slow, not because he cared about the Writ of Union, but because everyone else did.

Posted by: RobertoJH
The decision to focus on the bad Elites may not have been the best one as far as connecting with the "good" Elites is concerned (even though both books make it abundantly clear they still exist), but it was necessary to explain the Storm, introduce their motives, history and so on. As has been said, we already know the story of the Elites who respected us, we don't need a regurgitation of previous stories, or stories that basically tell us what we already know. It'd be pointless.

What we do need is for the board to be set up for Halo 4, and going into the details on why not ALL the Elites are BFFs with humanity is essential to doing that. Perhaps the books could better reinforce that Vadam still is on our side, but regardless of how little they focus on it, it is still made clear that these kinds of progressive Elites still exist. We just don't need to focus on them. They could perhaps expand upon the relationship, which Thursday War does a bit more of, but really the books are both already 400 pages long. They need to explain what needs to be explained for Halo 4.

Seeing as the only confirmed Covie faction in the game is Storm, they prioritize talking about them.


The point of the Glasslands Trilogy is covering the post war universe as well as setting up Halo 4. The Reclaimer Trilogy itself is not really the best place to be covering the current affairs of Sangheilios or the former Covenant species, that is for the books...and thus the Elites who don't bear any ill-will towards humans are just as important as those who become the founders of the Storm or any others who are like-minded. And even if the Elites who fit into that box aren't even used as a protagonist faction or group in the story, they still need to be represented...have the Elites who become enemies again interact with the friendly ones or run into minor characters who fit into the friendly side and mention them a great deal. Stories need balance, too much of one thing is always bad. You can't have all of them human sympathizers and willing to befriend humanity, just as you can't have all of them rabid war-mongers just looking for an excuse to start killing all humans again.

And no, Traviss' shyte does not actually make it clear that the Elites as depicted during Bungie's run as lord and master of the series still exist. Only the Arbiter is depicted as liking humans, all of his supporters are merely doing so because they want a temporary peace to rebuild before going all Dalek on the human race again and trying to wipe them from the face of the galaxy.

  • 10.31.2012 8:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: Gottalovec4

Posted by: a casual banana
Well, the Infinity is just showing what we can do now.

All ships in the fleet are getting these upgrades, and I wouldn't doubt that ONI is researching the plasma cannon tech that the Covvies had.



On the subject of plasma however, I don't see ONI devoting any amount of time to that subject. Cortana herself back in 2552 thought the Covenant plasma weaponry clumsy and inaccurate. If anything ONI will try to recreate Forerunner weaponry, or improve railgun and MAC designs.


I think that is exactly where they are going with UNSC weaponry. I mean they have already created a man portable railgun, and the Splaser has been around for awhile. So I wouldn't be surprised if we see the UNSC fielding Forerunner tech in H5 and 6, seeing as how there will probably be a ton of salvageable tech on Requiem.

  • 11.01.2012 10:04 AM PDT