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Subject: What if private groups had a trust rating?

@spawn031

"So much of what we do is ephemeral and quickly forgotten, even by ourselves, so it's gratifying to have something you have done linger in people's memories." John Williams

We have trust ratings. If you're out of the loop, check out the most linked thread on bungie.net. Basically a trust rating is: you earn X amount of "trust points" based on your activity online. The exact parameters are only known by the bungie webteam. General factors that are known are logging in, posting daily, joining and participating in private groups and public forums as well as having a linked gamertag. Once you have X amount of points, or meet certain criteria, you unlock a title (or silly hat) for your profile.

What if private groups had a trust rating?

No, I don't mean that private groups would unlock a member title like users currently do. This trust rating for private groups would help determine some of the more active groups on bungie.net. Many times when you're searching for a new community to become a part of, you have no idea if the place you're entering still has an active founder or staff there!

This "trust rating" for private groups could have different levels depending on the criteria met for that group, such as:

Rare (Group is fairly new and pink at the center)
Medium Rare (slightly medium with a touch of pink)
Medium (a primarily warm group. It still has it's pink strip)
Medium-well (a veteran group, cooked well and has been around)
Well Done (Highest level of group, no pink and has added spice)

I probably just made you hungry for steak, I feel the same. Obviously these are just placeholder names for group levels. I think they're a lot less boring than having "heroic, legendary and mythix" group though.

So what factors help the title of your group?

Loads of factors! There are factors for our current titles that we don't even know exist! Anyway, here is a list of me just brainstorming for group titles:
General:
Creation date of group (IE - "Join date")
Number of homepage views
Number of entries linked to homepage
Number of outgoing links clicked from homepage
Being mentioned in the Bungie News Blog (link to your group)
Number of members in group (should have algorithm, more doesn't always mean "better")

Membership/News:
Average trust rating of all members
How often each member logs into bungie.net
Average PPD for group
Average PPD of users Averaged within the group
Number of new threads created daily (averaged over X amount of months)
Average number of news feed posts over X amount of months
Have a set algorithm to prevent maximum news feed spamming for points

What doesn't gain you trust points:
Having multiple accounts on the same IP address (alt accounts)
Having 0 linked gamertags
No new threads/posts (a "dead" group)
Spamming the group with threads/posts
Spamming the news feed with loads of submissions
Constantly banning your own members/includes kicking
Getting in trouble with the webteam
The bungie webteam could also give your "group" a warning/ban/lock to lower your group trust points


From this we can see that the "ideal" group would one one that has active members that login daily, create new threads within their group and are in good standing with the bungie community. They should remain active and might even get mentioned in the bungie blog.

What's the point? Look at this. You see, that page hasn't been updated in the longest time. Partially due to the fact that we're in the dark, and there really isn't a point, given that bungie.next will be out soon.

Members could use the group "trust rating" to sort groups into categories when they're looking for a new group or community. There can also be tags for private groups to filter even further, such as: Forge, Community, Interviews, Content, Off-Topic, "Game Specific - Search by Game", Recruitment, Bungie Community, etc. This would allow the most active groups to "rise to the top" so to speak, when creating groups. Heck even add an option to filter for "New Groups!" which could list brand new groups that were created in the past week.

As of right now, users don't really have a great way of finding groups. We all know to direct these new guys to the Classified forum. I feel that when a member goes there, it's a hit or miss. They are searching for a group based on that exact point in time. I feel that the way private groups are searched for, created, sorted, filtered and reviewed could be entirely different within bungie.next.

Feel free to bash, complain and exploit how my idea wouldn't work. This is brainstorming, this is what this forum is for! All I'm trying to figure out is a better way for new users (and old!) to find other communities and group that they have been seeking.

Now go enjoy your steak.

  • 10.18.2012 7:11 PM PDT

This is the way the world ends,
This is the way the world ends,
This is the way the world ends;
Not with a bang but a whimper.

It feels a shame to leave such a well-done (cwatididthar?) thread without a post. So I'll post. It seems like a good idea and it would help weed out those groups with 500+ people and nobody active.

  • 10.18.2012 7:26 PM PDT

Posted by: FALSE R3ALITYx
Bricypoo's custom user title = Ultra Lame Thread Maker


Posted by: True Underdog
Only after we ban Bricypoo.

I actually wouldn't mind this idea, especially if it tracked activity.

  • 10.18.2012 7:56 PM PDT

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If I am not posting, then I am reading what you might have posted.

That would be interesting!

  • 10.18.2012 8:11 PM PDT

Hm, that would certainly be interesting to calculate and see.

  • 10.18.2012 8:19 PM PDT

"That's about all that can be said for plots, which anyway are just one thing after another, a what and a what and a what.

Now try how and why."

On an unrelated note, the amount of attention and discussion in a thread is inversely proportionate to the amount of thought, originality, and substance.

  • 10.18.2012 8:26 PM PDT

Posted by: AngryBrute1
Oh yeah, since somebody does not believe what YOU believe; that makes us vapid...
I cannot grasp that what you call "Something happened to nothing, and that nothing became something, and it was smaller than than a period."

Posted by: Bricypoo
I actually wouldn't mind this idea, especially if it tracked activity.

  • 10.18.2012 8:31 PM PDT
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"This bandicoot will be my general, he will lead my Cortex Commandos to world domination...

This time, I shall reign TRIUMPHANT!"

-Dr. Cortex

This sounds more like a ranking system rather than a "this group is sketchy" type deal going on.

Unless I'm not reading it right.

  • 10.18.2012 8:37 PM PDT

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What a tasty idea.
I have a question, is this idea based on just a group search feature? I read through and took in "New search feature that takes your trust rating into consideration".

  • 10.18.2012 8:38 PM PDT

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I think that something like this that will prevent people from joining dead groups would be a great idea. Especially dead groups that require approval.

  • 10.18.2012 8:43 PM PDT

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I'll make my own requisites and algorithms.

  • 10.18.2012 8:55 PM PDT
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This is a good ides.

  • 10.18.2012 9:17 PM PDT

Oh spawn marry me.. or at least be the new Bungie.net overlord because you always come up with such great ideas!

  • 10.19.2012 2:51 AM PDT

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I WAS SOCK

That would be awesome!

I'd love to see something along these lines =)

  • 10.19.2012 3:01 AM PDT

Still better than you.

.....most of you, at least.

I dislike the idea. At least, I dislike it assuming that there are penalties levelled at groups who have lower trust ratings, while groups with high trust ratings may be allowed to get away with things.

I personally think that would just create a system where some groups gain a high trust rating, and then abuse it (they will find a way), whereas groups that get stuck with low trust ratings will often be hit for minor transgressions.

If all it does however is give the group some weird ranking, then idc, though im not seeing the need.

  • 10.19.2012 4:07 AM PDT
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So what you're saying is that "Well-done" outranks "Medium-Rare"

I reject your vile lies.

  • 10.19.2012 4:52 AM PDT
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Posted by: halo3genius
This sounds more like a ranking system rather than a "this group is sketchy" type deal going on.

Unless I'm not reading it right.

  • 10.19.2012 5:01 AM PDT

I think its a good idea

  • 10.19.2012 5:21 AM PDT

Hi I'm RT and I like to argue!

Posted by: Telec
So what you're saying is that "Well-done" outranks "Medium-Rare"

I reject your vile lies.
I was going to post something similar.

Perhaps "well-done" could indicate a group that is past its prime and on its way to becoming a charred shell of its former self.

  • 10.19.2012 6:34 AM PDT

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As a side mental note, I need to find a larger template for those things >_>

  • 10.19.2012 7:05 AM PDT

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I don't like steak.
Sounds interesting though.

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Posted by: Bricypoo
I actually wouldn't mind this idea, especially if it tracked activity.


This and I would also like it to automatically rank up people based on their trust rating within the group. It would be a pain to rank people up manually if the group becomes mega sized.

  • 10.19.2012 7:59 AM PDT

Then the jigg would be up! A closely guarded secret soon exploited.

  • 10.19.2012 8:01 AM PDT

Interesting idea!

  • 10.19.2012 8:01 AM PDT
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Posted by: DEATHPIMP72
Anyone but Foman. He smells like cheese.

This would take group elitism to a new level. You are an evil genius, spawn, and I fully support this idea. HA HA HA!!!!

  • 10.19.2012 8:36 AM PDT

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