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Subject: My Forerunner Theory

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Yes, I know this forum is getting flooded by these things, but I figured I would post mine...as it just came to me.

Recently, I watched 2001: A Space Odyssey and read the book as well. And I got to thinking about some of the similarities between that and what could actually happen in Halo. 343 Guilty Spark calls Master Chief a reclaimer. Now that doesn't necessarily mean he's a Forerunner or humanity is the decendants of the Forerunners. I think that humanity as actually a Forerunner experiment.

Perhaps, somewhere in the history of time, the Forerunners used our planet as some kind of sanctuary or getaway, so to speak. They might have even used it as a laboratory. I don't know, but I'm thinking that the Forerunners are responsible for the evolution of humanity. Whether it had to do with the Flood or not, the Forerunners evolved humanity and we treated them as gods. That could be the reason why the ruins on Delta Halo look eerily similar to different ruins here on Earth.

So when the Forerunners started losing the battle against the Flood, they decided they would fire off the rings. And they took humanity, which probably wasn't but maybe a couple million, if that, and put them into the Ark. After the Flood was gone, humanity came out of the Ark and ventured off into the wilderness. Well you notice that all of the lush gardens and forests surrounding the object. Whether it's the Ark itself or not, perhaps that is what we could call the Garden of Eden?

And eventually, for whatever reasons, humanity lost the knowledge of the Ark but it was still in our minds, somewhere sublemenally. And that's how Chief was able to activate all of the different mechanisms and machines on Halo. Would also explain why we were called the reclaimers. The Forerunners knew eventually that humans would discover space travel and would eventually look to the stars.

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I think the forerunners are probably jewish.

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lol some1 said the chinese

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I should have known not to post a semi-intelligence analysis on these boards.

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Quick as a razor, sharp as a bullet.

sorry

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Posted by: Master Fox
I should have known not to post a semi-intelligence analysis on these boards.


are you saying jews and the chinese are unintelligent?

  • 06.28.2006 9:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: Master Fox
I should have known not to post a semi-intelligence analysis on these boards.


are you saying jews and the chinese are unintelligent?

No, I'm saying that I put a lot of time into that theory and wrote it out. And the only responses I get are from idiots like you talking about Jews and Chinese. If you're only on here talking to listen to yourself talk, go somewhere else.

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Posted by: Master Fox
Yes, I know this forum is getting flooded by these things, but I figured I would post mine...as it just came to me.

Recently, I watched 2001: A Space Odyssey and read the book as well. And I got to thinking about some of the similarities between that and what could actually happen in Halo. 343 Guilty Spark calls Master Chief a reclaimer. Now that doesn't necessarily mean he's a Forerunner or humanity is the decendants of the Forerunners. I think that humanity as actually a Forerunner experiment.

Perhaps, somewhere in the history of time, the Forerunners used our planet as some kind of sanctuary or getaway, so to speak. They might have even used it as a laboratory. I don't know, but I'm thinking that the Forerunners are responsible for the evolution of humanity. Whether it had to do with the Flood or not, the Forerunners evolved humanity and we treated them as gods. That could be the reason why the ruins on Delta Halo look eerily similar to different ruins here on Earth.

So when the Forerunners started losing the battle against the Flood, they decided they would fire off the rings. And they took humanity, which probably wasn't but maybe a couple million, if that, and put them into the Ark. After the Flood was gone, humanity came out of the Ark and ventured off into the wilderness. Well you notice that all of the lush gardens and forests surrounding the object. Whether it's the Ark itself or not, perhaps that is what we could call the Garden of Eden?

And eventually, for whatever reasons, humanity lost the knowledge of the Ark but it was still in our minds, somewhere sublemenally. And that's how Chief was able to activate all of the different mechanisms and machines on Halo. Would also explain why we were called the reclaimers. The Forerunners knew eventually that humans would discover space travel and would eventually look to the stars.


i more or less agree w/ all that

but where do you think the flood came from?

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Posted by: Master Fox
Posted by: D0K74 J0N35
Posted by: Master Fox
I should have known not to post a semi-intelligence analysis on these boards.


are you saying jews and the chinese are unintelligent?

No, I'm saying that I put a lot of time into that theory and wrote it out. And the only responses I get are from idiots like you talking about Jews and Chinese. If you're only on here talking to listen to yourself talk, go somewhere else.


What are you doing Dave?

  • 06.28.2006 9:20 AM PDT

Down, down to hell and say that I sent you there...

I came into the world with my legs forward and a woman cried "he was born with teeth!"

"I had no father I am like my father...I had no brother I am like my brother...And this word, "love" which old farts call divine be resident in men like you -blam!-. But not in me, I am my mother-blam!- self, alone."

You Are an Idiot

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Posted by: Master Fox
Yes, I know this forum is getting flooded by these things, but I figured I would post mine...as it just came to me.

Recently, I watched 2001: A Space Odyssey and read the book as well. And I got to thinking about some of the similarities between that and what could actually happen in Halo. 343 Guilty Spark calls Master Chief a reclaimer. Now that doesn't necessarily mean he's a Forerunner or humanity is the decendants of the Forerunners. I think that humanity as actually a Forerunner experiment.

Perhaps, somewhere in the history of time, the Forerunners used our planet as some kind of sanctuary or getaway, so to speak. They might have even used it as a laboratory. I don't know, but I'm thinking that the Forerunners are responsible for the evolution of humanity. Whether it had to do with the Flood or not, the Forerunners evolved humanity and we treated them as gods. That could be the reason why the ruins on Delta Halo look eerily similar to different ruins here on Earth.

So when the Forerunners started losing the battle against the Flood, they decided they would fire off the rings. And they took humanity, which probably wasn't but maybe a couple million, if that, and put them into the Ark. After the Flood was gone, humanity came out of the Ark and ventured off into the wilderness. Well you notice that all of the lush gardens and forests surrounding the object. Whether it's the Ark itself or not, perhaps that is what we could call the Garden of Eden?

And eventually, for whatever reasons, humanity lost the knowledge of the Ark but it was still in our minds, somewhere sublemenally. And that's how Chief was able to activate all of the different mechanisms and machines on Halo. Would also explain why we were called the reclaimers. The Forerunners knew eventually that humans would discover space travel and would eventually look to the stars.


i more or less agree w/ all that

but where do you think the flood came from?

Well if my theory is true, which I'm not sure either way, they could be a biproduct or a failed experiment. If the Forerunners were experimenting with creating life or pushing the envelope of evolution for whatever means, the Flood might have been a failed try and humanity could be their successors.

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Posted by: Master Fox
Posted by: D0K74 J0N35
Posted by: Master Fox
I should have known not to post a semi-intelligence analysis on these boards.


are you saying jews and the chinese are unintelligent?

No, I'm saying that I put a lot of time into that theory and wrote it out. And the only responses I get are from idiots like you talking about Jews and Chinese. If you're only on here talking to listen to yourself talk, go somewhere else.


well, look here, mister. I put a lot of time into my theory that the forerunners are jews, and this other fella really thought hard about the possibility they're chinese, and we don't appreciate you coming on here flaming us.

who's less intelligent: the people who come on here and posit alternative theories, or someone who responds to these theories by throwing insults?

  • 06.28.2006 9:21 AM PDT

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possible but how willing would the mass market be to belive that, the whole "god doesn't exist" thing, we were created by an alien species might not sell well

just a thought

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possible but how willing would the mass market be to belive that, the whole "god doesn't exist" thing, we were created by an alien species might not sell well

just a thought


exactly, whereas a lot of jewish and chinese people own xboxes. That's why our theories are much more sensible.

  • 06.28.2006 9:22 AM PDT

Down, down to hell and say that I sent you there...

I came into the world with my legs forward and a woman cried "he was born with teeth!"

"I had no father I am like my father...I had no brother I am like my brother...And this word, "love" which old farts call divine be resident in men like you -blam!-. But not in me, I am my mother-blam!- self, alone."

You Are an Idiot

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Posted by: Master Fox
Posted by: D0K74 J0N35
Posted by: Master Fox
I should have known not to post a semi-intelligence analysis on these boards.


are you saying jews and the chinese are unintelligent?

No, I'm saying that I put a lot of time into that theory and wrote it out. And the only responses I get are from idiots like you talking about Jews and Chinese. If you're only on here talking to listen to yourself talk, go somewhere else.


well, look here, mister. I put a lot of time into my theory that the forerunners are jews, and this other fella really thought hard about the possibility they're chinese, and we don't appreciate you coming on here flaming us.

who's less intelligent: the people who come on here and posit alternative theories, or someone who responds to these theories by throwing insults?

I think the guy that comes on here saying "The Forerunners are Jews" or "I think they're Chinese" are the bigger idiots.

Why? Because you offer no facts or comparisons. You offer no analysis. The only thing you offer is some braindead statement that could be pulled out of your ass within a few seconds. If you would actually write up something that has a shread of intelligence and makes some sense, perhaps I would consider it as something more than the standard Bungie.net fodder.

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You Are an Idiot

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possible but how willing would the mass market be to belive that, the whole "god doesn't exist" thing, we were created by an alien species might not sell well

just a thought

That is true, especially with all of the controversy that The DaVinci Code caused. But I'm thinking more along the lines of 2001: A Space Odyssey. It was a big commercial and critical success. And it didn't really garner much controversy.

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wow, i didnt realize how many ppl go with the forerunner made the flood theory.........still.


i was one who was actually too hardcore in my belief that the forerunner created the flood.

but this book called "The Art of Halo" said the flood were ' encountered ' over the mine station on threshold

(why am i going with a book anyway?)

since i saw that i havent been able to be belive in forerunner created the flood. but i really want to. i.......SORT OF ...makes more sense than the flood discovering THEM.

but alas we'll see

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I'm not posting the thought process behind my theory because you probably won't understand it anyway.

  • 06.28.2006 9:25 AM PDT

Down, down to hell and say that I sent you there...

I came into the world with my legs forward and a woman cried "he was born with teeth!"

"I had no father I am like my father...I had no brother I am like my brother...And this word, "love" which old farts call divine be resident in men like you -blam!-. But not in me, I am my mother-blam!- self, alone."

You Are an Idiot

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wow, i didnt realize how many ppl go with the forerunner made the flood theory.........still.


i was one who was actually too hardcore in my belief that the forerunner created the flood.

but this book called "The Art of Halo" said the flood were ' encountered ' over the mine station on threshold

(why am i going with a book anyway?)

since i saw that i havent been able to be belive in forerunner created the flood. but i really want to. i.......SORT OF ...makes more sense than the flood discovering THEM.

but alas we'll see

Well we know the Flood have some assemblence of intelligence and are more than just mindless parasites. Of course it can be debated whether their use of weaponry is from the actual parasite or nothing more than some regressed knowledge from the host that was accessed when the Flood invaded the body. But Gravemind definitely shows intelligence and while we haven't figured out what he is yet, he could be the origin of the Flood.

But I can't really buy into the Flood just "being around" and being discovered by the Forerunners. The Flood was definitely a handful for them and eventually destroyed their civilization. You think something that powerful and dangerous would go unnoticed for that long of a time? You can tell that the Covenant knew of them long before the events of Halo: Combat Evolved by the way Prophet of Truth talks to the Arbiter.

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there's like a billion chinese, and a billion flood. coincidence?

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Down, down to hell and say that I sent you there...

I came into the world with my legs forward and a woman cried "he was born with teeth!"

"I had no father I am like my father...I had no brother I am like my brother...And this word, "love" which old farts call divine be resident in men like you -blam!-. But not in me, I am my mother-blam!- self, alone."

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there's like a billion chinese, and a billion flood. coincidence?

I think the Flood have more intelligence than you do. Is there any coherency in your ramblings or are you just punching buttons?

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Posted by: Bunqie Jump
possible but how willing would the mass market be to belive that, the whole "god doesn't exist" thing, we were created by an alien species might not sell well

just a thought


Scientology is very real. I don't appreciate you belittling my relgion like that.

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Posted by: D0K74 J0N35
there's like a billion chinese, and a billion flood. coincidence?

I think the Flood have more intelligence than you do. Is there any coherency in your ramblings or are you just punching buttons?


look, think about geography. YOu start in china, go west to israel, and then where? Africa.

[Edited on 6/28/2006]

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Posted by: Master Fox
You think something that powerful and dangerous would go unnoticed for that long of a time?


There was McDonalds burning hot coffee. It took a couple decades.

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wow, i didnt realize how many ppl go with the forerunner made the flood theory.........still.


i was one who was actually too hardcore in my belief that the forerunner created the flood.

but this book called "The Art of Halo" said the flood were ' encountered ' over the mine station on threshold

(why am i going with a book anyway?)

since i saw that i havent been able to be belive in forerunner created the flood. but i really want to. i.......SORT OF ...makes more sense than the flood discovering THEM.

but alas we'll see

Well we know the Flood have some assemblence of intelligence and are more than just mindless parasites. Of course it can be debated whether their use of weaponry is from the actual parasite or nothing more than some regressed knowledge from the host that was accessed when the Flood invaded the body. But Gravemind definitely shows intelligence and while we haven't figured out what he is yet, he could be the origin of the Flood.

But I can't really buy into the Flood just "being around" and being discovered by the Forerunners. The Flood was definitely a handful for them and eventually destroyed their civilization. You think something that powerful and dangerous would go unnoticed for that long of a time? You can tell that the Covenant knew of them long before the events of Halo: Combat Evolved by the way Prophet of Truth talks to the Arbiter.


sure dude, this is why i believed it so much........until that dang book

what contradicts them being "found" is all you just said.......i dont really like the idea that they were lying around

trust me, i was a firm believer in the forerunner creating the flood

but that book seriously changed me. (but deep down, a piece of me still believes the forerunner made the flood)

"The Art of Halo"

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since you're so smart. why don't you prove to me that the forerunners are NOT chinese jews?

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