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Subject: My Forerunner Theory

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Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
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wow, i didnt realize how many ppl go with the forerunner made the flood theory.........still.


i was one who was actually too hardcore in my belief that the forerunner created the flood.

but this book called "The Art of Halo" said the flood were ' encountered ' over the mine station on threshold

(why am i going with a book anyway?)

since i saw that i havent been able to be belive in forerunner created the flood. but i really want to. i.......SORT OF ...makes more sense than the flood discovering THEM.

but alas we'll see

Well we know the Flood have some assemblence of intelligence and are more than just mindless parasites. Of course it can be debated whether their use of weaponry is from the actual parasite or nothing more than some regressed knowledge from the host that was accessed when the Flood invaded the body. But Gravemind definitely shows intelligence and while we haven't figured out what he is yet, he could be the origin of the Flood.

But I can't really buy into the Flood just "being around" and being discovered by the Forerunners. The Flood was definitely a handful for them and eventually destroyed their civilization. You think something that powerful and dangerous would go unnoticed for that long of a time? You can tell that the Covenant knew of them long before the events of Halo: Combat Evolved by the way Prophet of Truth talks to the Arbiter.


sure dude, this is why i believed it so much........until that dang book

what contradicts them being "found" is all you just said.......i dont really like the idea that they were lying around

trust me, i was a firm believer in the forerunner creating the flood

but that book seriously changed me. (but deep down, a piece of me still believes the forerunner made the flood)

"The Art of Halo"

I'll check this book out and see what it's about. I've never heard of it before now. And really there hasn't bee anything mentioned in any of the official strategy guides or Halo novels, so I'm not sure this is even sanctioned by Bungie.

  • 06.28.2006 9:35 AM PDT

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Posted by: D0K74 J0N35
I'm not posting the thought process behind my theory because you probably won't understand it anyway.


I somewhat agree with your Jewish idea. I like the Chinese theory as well.

I did a little bit of speculation myself and was thinking, Judiasm is a religion, Chinese describes ethnicity, which are obviously two different things.

Does the possibility exist that they were Chinese Jews?

  • 06.28.2006 9:36 AM PDT
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look at those beady eyes. you mean to tell me he's not chinese?

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Posted by: D0K74 J0N35
I'm not posting the thought process behind my theory because you probably won't understand it anyway.


I somewhat agree with your Jewish idea. I like the Chinese theory as well.

I did a little bit of speculation myself and was thinking, Judiasm is a religion, Chinese describes ethnicity, which are obviously two different things.

Does the possibility exist that they were Chinese Jews?


what is WRONG with you people???

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Posted by: twinkiemaker
Posted by: D0K74 J0N35
I'm not posting the thought process behind my theory because you probably won't understand it anyway.


I somewhat agree with your Jewish idea. I like the Chinese theory as well.

I did a little bit of speculation myself and was thinking, Judiasm is a religion, Chinese describes ethnicity, which are obviously two different things.

Does the possibility exist that they were Chinese Jews?


you make a good point. this also brings up the fact that while this self proclaimed halo scholar has only made an attempt to define what species the forerunners were, I have managed to delineate their ethnicity and religion.

  • 06.28.2006 9:38 AM PDT

Down, down to hell and say that I sent you there...

I came into the world with my legs forward and a woman cried "he was born with teeth!"

"I had no father I am like my father...I had no brother I am like my brother...And this word, "love" which old farts call divine be resident in men like you -blam!-. But not in me, I am my mother-blam!- self, alone."

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Posted by: D0K74 J0N35
since you're so smart. why don't you prove to me that the forerunners are NOT chinese jews?

Because the Jewish religion didn't begin until around 1800 BC. Judaism is a religion, not a race.

And the first dated Chinese artifacts come from about 5,000 years ago. There was human life other places before that. So unless you have something else?

  • 06.28.2006 9:39 AM PDT

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The forerunners are muppets.

  • 06.28.2006 9:39 AM PDT

Down, down to hell and say that I sent you there...

I came into the world with my legs forward and a woman cried "he was born with teeth!"

"I had no father I am like my father...I had no brother I am like my brother...And this word, "love" which old farts call divine be resident in men like you -blam!-. But not in me, I am my mother-blam!- self, alone."

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Is there no sanity on this board or did an insitution log all their patients on this website for therapy?

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Posted by: Master Fox
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since you're so smart. why don't you prove to me that the forerunners are NOT chinese jews?

Because the Jewish religion didn't begin until around 1800 BC. Judaism is a religion, not a race.

And the first dated Chinese artifacts come from about 5,000 years ago. There was human life other places before that. So unless you have something else?


halo takes place in like the year 5000 or something, so both Jewish AND Chinese cultures would seem extremely old to that Crinotana computer lady.

  • 06.28.2006 9:41 AM PDT

Down, down to hell and say that I sent you there...

I came into the world with my legs forward and a woman cried "he was born with teeth!"

"I had no father I am like my father...I had no brother I am like my brother...And this word, "love" which old farts call divine be resident in men like you -blam!-. But not in me, I am my mother-blam!- self, alone."

You Are an Idiot

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Posted by: Master Fox
Posted by: D0K74 J0N35
since you're so smart. why don't you prove to me that the forerunners are NOT chinese jews?

Because the Jewish religion didn't begin until around 1800 BC. Judaism is a religion, not a race.

And the first dated Chinese artifacts come from about 5,000 years ago. There was human life other places before that. So unless you have something else?


halo takes place in like the year 5000 or something, so both Jewish AND Chinese cultures would seem extremely old to that Crinotana computer lady.

2552...546 years into the future. Her name is Cortana and what does that even prove?

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Posted by: Master Fox
Posted by: D0K74 J0N35
Posted by: Master Fox
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since you're so smart. why don't you prove to me that the forerunners are NOT chinese jews?

Because the Jewish religion didn't begin until around 1800 BC. Judaism is a religion, not a race.

And the first dated Chinese artifacts come from about 5,000 years ago. There was human life other places before that. So unless you have something else?


halo takes place in like the year 5000 or something, so both Jewish AND Chinese cultures would seem extremely old to that Crinotana computer lady.

2552...546 years into the future. Her name is Cortana and what does that even prove?


all you're saying is that the forerunners were from long ago. too long ago to be chinese or jewish, because those cultures are too new. but really "long ago" is a relative term, so in the year 5293 or whatever, people could think that "wow, these chinese jews are really old. they were probably here at the beginning of time."

  • 06.28.2006 9:44 AM PDT

Down, down to hell and say that I sent you there...

I came into the world with my legs forward and a woman cried "he was born with teeth!"

"I had no father I am like my father...I had no brother I am like my brother...And this word, "love" which old farts call divine be resident in men like you -blam!-. But not in me, I am my mother-blam!- self, alone."

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Because the Forerunners predate the beginnings of Judaism or the first artifacts of the Chinese culture. And it's the year 2552 idiot, that's only 546 years from now. Christianity has been around for a little less than 2,000 years. So I don't think that another 500 years would make them think "the beginning of time."

  • 06.28.2006 9:48 AM PDT

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Posted by: Wuyie
Here is something that will blow your mind..where did both of thos ecultures come from?....


The Guang Dong Valley in central China?

  • 06.28.2006 9:51 AM PDT

Down, down to hell and say that I sent you there...

I came into the world with my legs forward and a woman cried "he was born with teeth!"

"I had no father I am like my father...I had no brother I am like my brother...And this word, "love" which old farts call divine be resident in men like you -blam!-. But not in me, I am my mother-blam!- self, alone."

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The Chinese culture developed by Africans that migrated from Africa through Indo-China and across the Great Land Bridge. Along the way, some factions stayed and developed their own cultures.

Jews developed around the land of Israel. If you believe the bible, that is where God revealed himself to them, etc etc.

  • 06.28.2006 9:54 AM PDT

Down, down to hell and say that I sent you there...

I came into the world with my legs forward and a woman cried "he was born with teeth!"

"I had no father I am like my father...I had no brother I am like my brother...And this word, "love" which old farts call divine be resident in men like you -blam!-. But not in me, I am my mother-blam!- self, alone."

You Are an Idiot

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Because the Forerunners predate the beginnings of Judaism or the first artifacts of the Chinese culture. And it's the year 2552 idiot, that's only 546 years from now. Christianity has been around for a little less than 2,000 years. So I don't think that another 500 years would make them think "the beginning of time."


Some would argue that christianity has been around for 7,000 years, but whatever. I'd hate to interject some higher thought into this dismal thread.

Christianity derrived from Christ. It was actually a sect of Judaism before it split off and became it's own religion after the crucifixion.

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the forerunners were last seen 100,000 years ago

LoL chinese jews............you guys shoudl listen to yourself

and master fox you realize youre trying to hold an argument with someone who believes the halos creators were chinese jews?????

LoL this is some......interesting ( but funny ) stuff

  • 06.28.2006 10:00 AM PDT

Down, down to hell and say that I sent you there...

I came into the world with my legs forward and a woman cried "he was born with teeth!"

"I had no father I am like my father...I had no brother I am like my brother...And this word, "love" which old farts call divine be resident in men like you -blam!-. But not in me, I am my mother-blam!- self, alone."

You Are an Idiot

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Posted by: Master Fox
Because the Forerunners predate the beginnings of Judaism or the first artifacts of the Chinese culture. And it's the year 2552 idiot, that's only 546 years from now. Christianity has been around for a little less than 2,000 years. So I don't think that another 500 years would make them think "the beginning of time."


Some would argue that christianity has been around for 7,000 years, but whatever. I'd hate to interject some higher thought into this dismal thread.

Christianity derrived from Christ. It was actually a sect of Judaism before it split off and became it's own religion after the crucifixion.


I don't want to get into this argument with you so stop flame baiting me.

How am I baiting you? You offered a criticism of my theory so I offer a cross examination. Is that baiting?

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Hmmm I am intrigued. Do they still make crappy chinese toys?

  • 06.28.2006 10:03 AM PDT

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Posted by: spilli
Hmmm I am intrigued. Do they still make crappy chinese toys?


The topic is about the Forerunner possibly being Chinese Jews. The question should be whether or not they made crappy toys 100,000 years ago.

Please stay on topic.

  • 06.28.2006 10:13 AM PDT

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