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Subject: Why does everyone think the Red Army was the best of WW2?

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Posted by: Sgt Commando
Nah man. Germany lost two World Wars in a row. Dey suck.

  • 10.23.2012 2:32 PM PDT


Posted by: Wyzilla
Are you retarded OP? The Battle of Kursk was the singular largest battle in human history, and the only time a Blitzkrieg was ever halted. They would have won without the US. Britain simply served as a distraction of forces.


What happened in the winter of 41?

  • 10.23.2012 2:32 PM PDT


Posted by: FloodPsychologis
Germany isn't the master race. Finland is. Who has the highest test scores in math and science? That's right, Finland. Who has more blonde hair and blue eyes? Oh, that's right, Finland. Who fought against the Soviets and held them back on their own? Oh, Finland.

However, I will say, the Germans put up a great fight when fighting on 3 fronts. Russian tactics were not superior, they just had better numbers.
Finland is awesome, but still, back then Germany was better.
But if the two were combined...

  • 10.23.2012 2:33 PM PDT

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Yeah, 'cause if Germany captured Russia the allies would have had a chance.

  • 10.23.2012 2:33 PM PDT


Posted by: Sgt Commando
Nah man. Germany lost two World Wars in a row. Dey suck.
If you're going against jealous super powers in WW1 and they have all of their colonies and massive amounts of propaganda (the Belgian r@pe) to get others to come fight you, you're going to lose. WW2 as well, but they deserved it that time.

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  • 10.23.2012 2:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: FloodPsychologis
Germany isn't the master race. Finland is. Who has the highest test scores in math and science? That's right, Finland. Who has more blonde hair and blue eyes? Oh, that's right, Finland. Who fought against the Soviets and held them back on their own? Oh, Finland.

However, I will say, the Germans put up a great fight when fighting on 3 fronts. Russian tactics were not superior, they just had better numbers.


Russians are Tyranids.
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And of course the Russians only succeeded because of Lend Lease. The Allies would have been in a far sorrier state had America not been supplying them.

Although, the Allies would have also been in a bad position had the Italians managed to get their fleet out of the harbor.

  • 10.23.2012 2:35 PM PDT


Posted by: lukeanatr
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/22jun1941. jpg
And? Superior tech, brah.
Flamethrowers clean all that infantry up, or finally break them.

  • 10.23.2012 2:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: Wyzilla
Are you retarded OP? The Battle of Kursk was the singular largest battle in human history, and the only time a Blitzkrieg was ever halted. They would have won without the US. Britain simply served as a distraction of forces.


What happened in the winter of 41?

The Soviet Union is built to engage in massive battles, not guerrilla warfare. When they engage militias, they're as effective as the Romans were in conquering all of Britain.

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  • 10.23.2012 2:40 PM PDT
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Posted by: Th3Av3Ng3R

Posted by: FloodPsychologis
Germany isn't the master race. Finland is. Who has the highest test scores in math and science? That's right, Finland. Who has more blonde hair and blue eyes? Oh, that's right, Finland. Who fought against the Soviets and held them back on their own? Oh, Finland.

However, I will say, the Germans put up a great fight when fighting on 3 fronts. Russian tactics were not superior, they just had better numbers.
Finland is awesome, but still, back then Germany was better.
But if the two were combined...


They fought together in the Continuation War. Strangely enough, Finnish Jews fought alongside the Germans with no issues.

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It's obviously not the best because I'm not in it.

  • 10.23.2012 2:41 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Because they came out of it the winners. Blame it on whatever you want, at the end of the day the best army is the one that wins the war.

  • 10.23.2012 2:41 PM PDT


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Posted by: Th3Av3Ng3R

Posted by: lukeanatr
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/22jun1941. jpg
And? Superior tech, brah.
Flamethrowers clean all that infantry up, or finally break them.

I thought I was having an intelligent conversation until you made that idiotic comment. I'm done here.
Sorry, but it's true. Tanks can be burned out as well (if you're foolhardy enough to try) or LRMs can blow them to dust.
And the flamethrowers are a valid point, numbers don't solve anything.
Think of it as a chain reaction: one guy lights up, he runs to the others for help, they catch fire, and it increases exponentially. Or, the others run off scared.

  • 10.23.2012 2:42 PM PDT

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Because numbers overwhelm training and technology, and Russia had tons of soldiers to overwhelm the better training of the normal Wehrmacht and the elite SS.

  • 10.23.2012 2:45 PM PDT

+1 for you good sir.

WWII Germany vs WWII Russia? No help from Allies or Axis?

I'm going to throw Germany a bone and say that Hitler was smart enough to read up on his history of war and learn from Napoleons mistake and not engage Russia during the Russian Winter.

Russia had billions of young men to throw at Germany, so I think it's fair to give them this knowledge in this hypothetical situation. If the situation happened, i'd say the Germans would have beaten Russia.

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  • 10.23.2012 2:51 PM PDT

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Because WWII Russia.

  • 10.23.2012 2:52 PM PDT

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Because the Russian army was armed with little more than anger, and yet they still managed to crush everything the Germans threw their way. The Germans were better equipped, had more experience, had more food and ammunition... and still Ivan handed them their asses. There is no denying that. Germany got ROFLStomped by the poor kid.

  • 10.23.2012 2:53 PM PDT

+1 for you good sir.


Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
Because the Russian army was armed with little more than anger, and yet they still managed to crush everything the Germans threw their way. The Germans were better equipped, had more experience, had more food and ammunition... and still Ivan handed them their asses. There is no denying that. Germany got ROFLStomped by the poor kid.

Fighting a two sided war is hard, especially when Hitler wasn't exactly the best person to be leading it.

  • 10.23.2012 2:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
Because the Russian army was armed with little more than anger, and yet they still managed to crush everything the Germans threw their way. The Germans were better equipped, had more experience, had more food and ammunition... and still Ivan handed them their asses. There is no denying that. Germany got ROFLStomped by the poor kid.

  • 10.23.2012 3:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: Adamal123

Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
Because the Russian army was armed with little more than anger, and yet they still managed to crush everything the Germans threw their way. The Germans were better equipped, had more experience, had more food and ammunition... and still Ivan handed them their asses. There is no denying that. Germany got ROFLStomped by the poor kid.

Fighting a two sided war is hard, especially when Hitler wasn't exactly the best person to be leading it.

And he -blam!- up their command structure so it was this convoluted mess of not being able to communicate between the branches.

  • 10.23.2012 3:03 PM PDT

+1 for you good sir.


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Posted by: Adamal123

Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
Because the Russian army was armed with little more than anger, and yet they still managed to crush everything the Germans threw their way. The Germans were better equipped, had more experience, had more food and ammunition... and still Ivan handed them their asses. There is no denying that. Germany got ROFLStomped by the poor kid.

Fighting a two sided war is hard, especially when Hitler wasn't exactly the best person to be leading it.

And he -blam!- up their command structure so it was this convoluted mess of not being able to communicate between the branches.

So, in addition to my previous scenario, if we replace Hitler with a more qualified general, I am sure they would have won.

  • 10.23.2012 3:06 PM PDT

I never said that.
Ment to quote Forum Cop (on xbox).

[Edited on 10.23.2012 3:11 PM PDT]

  • 10.23.2012 3:08 PM PDT


Posted by: Adamal123

Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
Because the Russian army was armed with little more than anger, and yet they still managed to crush everything the Germans threw their way. The Germans were better equipped, had more experience, had more food and ammunition... and still Ivan handed them their asses. There is no denying that. Germany got ROFLStomped by the poor kid.

Fighting a two sided war is hard, especially when Hitler wasn't exactly the best person to be leading it.
Ahem, three sided.

  • 10.23.2012 3:09 PM PDT

+1 for you good sir.


Posted by: Th3Av3Ng3R

Posted by: Adamal123

Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
Because the Russian army was armed with little more than anger, and yet they still managed to crush everything the Germans threw their way. The Germans were better equipped, had more experience, had more food and ammunition... and still Ivan handed them their asses. There is no denying that. Germany got ROFLStomped by the poor kid.

Fighting a two sided war is hard, especially when Hitler wasn't exactly the best person to be leading it.
Ahem, three sided.

Supports my response even more, thank you.

  • 10.23.2012 3:10 PM PDT