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Posted by: HipiO7
Posted by: tjal
Posted by: HipiO7
They might have been preteens, but they were as good or even better than any Spartan II at that age.
Depends on the age they were enlisted and even then... I highly doubt it.
Spartan-2's were the genetic 1 in a billion humans. They were even without the augmentations already stronger/smarter/faster than other human beings by genetics. The USNC stretched them to the limit with the (way intenser training than spartan-3's) and then pushed them over the limit with augmentations (which were basically the same as the s3's).
I'm sorry, but the training of the spartan-2's was longer and less "ethical" than the training of the s3's. Some of the s3's were enlisted at the age of 8
Wrong.
Kurt himself said that the Spartan III's training regime was more grueling than the Spartan II's. The Spartan II's had an easier (in contrast) training, extended over a longer time than the Spartan III's. As Mendez would say, the Spartan III's had the drive to destroy and kill the Covenant that the Spartan II's didn't. Also as he said, genetics isn't everything.
Give a Spartan III a set of MJLONIR at the same age when the Spartan II's got it and I assure you the fight will either be extremely equal or balance towards the Spartan III. Look at he missions they were going on when they were 12, when the Spartan II's were still in training, and look at the missions, despite the costs, they managed to complete. Missions even Spartan II's wouldn't be sent on. Spartan III's perhaps weren't the cream of the crop, but they were still much better than the average human in terms of genetics.
And please don't bring up Noble Team. Bungie's representation of it was rather insulting and completely untrue for a team of real Spartans. We have almost no records of their past operations up to Reach. They deserve their own novel or something to flesh them out. Do them justice.
Posted by: Teh Vault Boy
Definitely didn't happen in Nylund's novels. That just leaves the author who did absolutely no research on the series.
Suffice it to say, I think we can agree that Lucy not being able to move sixty kilos from a prone position is just bad writing, not an actual representation of S-III strength.
Also, this. This should be common sense.
Umm...no, spartan II's and the MJOLNIR armor costs as much as a freight, that's why they weren't sent on suicide missions, and at this point in the series they were pretty scarce . That said the spartan III's have messed up biochemistry so that they have a chance in battle, resulting in excessive aggression. Spartan II's were made using more resources, trained longer, and were the peak of human genetics. Maybe out of armor they might be similarly matched, although I would still bet on the II, but in armor the spartan II would wipe the floor with a II, SPI armor compares in no way to MJOLNIR.