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Subject: More focus on posts and less on the people who make them

In Bungie.next, there should be a change in the way the forums display topics and posts. Namely, modifying the view of topics and forums to focus more on the content that's being created (topics and posts) and less on the authors.

To start off, take a look at any forum page. Now look at any individual entry for a topic. You have eight elements:

- Status (the icon adjacent to the topic)
- Title
- Reply counter
- Author
- Date posted
- Who replied last
- Date of the last reply
- Pager links ("[Pages: 1 2 .. 7 8]" portion)

In my opinion, the bare minimum for a useful topic display (just from those above) would include the title, date posted, and reply count. The others are kind of iffy, so I'm going to explain why I do/do not think each of these elements are or are not important.

StatusOther than being another place to click on to access the topic (and that's even a bit misleading on topics without an icon), these have no other use. As far as what they indicate, only locked topics have (and should - more on this later) have any useful indicator to them.

- The new posts (ie. those with less than 51 replies and have a post within the last 30 minutes) icon is somewhat flawed and redundant. Firstly, "Hot topics" (and others) override this, so even if a topic has new posts this doesn't show up. Secondly, the constraint on having a post within the last 30 minutes is redundant because the forum is sorted chronologically by the last post date - I can look at the reply count and the date instead (in fact I can then apply my own idea of what constitutes a topic with "new posts").

- I think the idea of hot topics is to give a kind of indicator as for whether or not a topic is popular and you should probably check it out (that's the way it seems, anyway). Unfortunately I don't think this is a good measure of whether the topic is actually worth reading or not, and is really just a quick indicator for whether a topic has more than 50 replies (again, something I cannot customise - why does/should it take 51 replies for a "hot" topic?).

- Employee and locked topics fall into a single category - those which have some kind of administrative functionality; "this is an [important] announcement" and "this is a topic which you shouldn't create", respectively. I really don't think these need something as big as an icon. A small tag included alongside/adjacent to the topic (a la Reddit's admin/NSFW tags) would be sufficient IMO.

Pinned and Pinned and locked icons are redundant since they both appear in the pinned topics section. Pinned and locked topics could easily have the "locked tag" applied as well.

- Archived topics could probably have the same kind of tag applied, but I don't really have an opinion on them since I don't think topics should be archived at all.


TitleObviously keep this, but make two changes:

1) Allow other character sets to be input; and
2) Keep a character limit, increase it, but don't truncate the string. Wrap it around to a new line.

Possibly make the font larger too.


Reply counterAs odd as it might sound, I think this can contribute to determining whether the topic is worth clicking on (plus, it's always an interesting statistic). Definitely keep this, but maybe move it from the line where the title is displayed and/or decrease the font size.

AuthorWhile I can't exactly explain why, I think it is useful to see who has posted a topic from the forum page.

Date postedAgain, I have no justification for keeping this here other than it being useful information. However, PLEASE CHANGE IT TO RELATIVE TIME! A rollover which displays the full local date and time would be brilliant too.

Who replied lastThis I do not feel is useful enough to warrant it existing on the forum page. That is to say, in the context of viewing the forums to look for topics, whoever posted last is irrelevant.

Date of the last replyConsidering that the forum is sorted chronologically by default, this isn't really all that useful (especially when I can just go into the topic and look at the last reply). The only time this might be useful is if you could sort the forums by different criteria (eg. reply count, etc...).

If it were kept, do the same with the date posted and change it to relative time and include a local timestamp on rollover.


Pager linksI've honestly never used them because I don't find them all that useful. I wouldn't miss them if they disappeared.

Hopefully that explains some of my justifications for wanting the forum topics to change. Now onto posts within topics.

Each post has five elements at the highest level. An avatar, titlebar, the post itself, reply/edit/report/etc... buttons, and a timestamp. I want to expand on the titlebar only though because its sub-elements are displayed as well. So we end up with:

- Avatar
- Username
- Title
- Message user link
- Groups link
- More/Signature arrow
- Post
- Post buttons
- Timestamp

Once again, the bare minimum would only include the username, post, post buttons, and timestamp. Here's why:

AvatarSorry to disappoint, but as far as what people should be focusing on within the topic, it shouldn't be the avatar. It is too prominent and takes up too much space when it is alongside a post. Given the [current] size of the area where posts are displayed, having the avatar there takes up about a fifth of the total space.

I think it should be removed completely, shrunk considerably (eg. 45x45, 32x32), moved above/below the post, or added dynamically/on-demand as a panel that appears when rolling over the username.


UsernameYes, keep this. Although what if its position were changed? Beside/below the post contents?

TitleExcept for administrative titles (Employee, Ninja, etc...) and perhaps an indicator for who the OP is (a nice little addition IMO) titles are kind of silly and a waste of space here. I don't really care if they continue to exist, but I don't like the fact they exist in a context where they have little meaning and are bigger than the actual post text. Having them in the panel I was talking about might look nice, and would be appropriate if I cared to learn more about a specific user.

Message user linkVery rarely will I use this since I can click someone's profile then hit send message. In that respect it's redundant (and it seems more intuitive to initiate sending a PM from a profile page anyway).

Groups linkSame as the above.

More/Signature arrowWhile the contents of the box that appears as a result of clicking the arrow isn't shown by default, the contents of this box are redundant since I can click a user's profile and get the same information. Again, this information might be more appropriate if displayed in a dynamically added rollover box.

PostNo changes.

Post buttonsI don't really see any other way these could be displayed. Although, what if these were fixed to the browser window while scrolling through a long post?

TimestampObviously this should stay, but with a few changes:

1) Inclusion of relative time (eg. "10 minutes ago", "3 months ago", "4 years ago", etc...).

2) Inclusion of an English-like timestamp. That means a timestamp like "Today at 5:01 PM", "Yesterday at 11:35 AM", for any recent timestamps instead of what we currently have "10.01.2012 11:17 PM PDT", because if I look at that on its own I don't know whether it's the 10th of January or the 1st of October. Older timestamps should have something like "Wed Oct 17 2012 at 2:44 PM". Structuring and displaying a timestamp in this way is readable by everyone, regardless of their locale.

3) LOCAL TIMESTAMPS! Or at the very least set to UTC. This is VERY important.

That's pretty much it I think. Most of the functional things I'd like to have I've talked about in other topics, and the only other time I've given my opinion on the layout of the site was in regard to the Reach game pages, but never the forums. Anyway, hopefully the Web Team finds this and whatever arises in the ensuing discussion useful for Bungie.next.

  • 10.27.2012 12:02 AM PDT
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Posted by: dazarobbo
StatusOther than being another place to click on to access the topic (and that's even a bit misleading on topics without an icon), these have no other use. As far as what they indicate, only locked topics have (and should - more on this later) have any useful indicator to them.
As a general response to this entire section, I must disagree entirely. While you provide a good point as to the majority of the icons having little use, I feel that it adds a good deal of uniqueness to the site. Many other forums have Hot Topic indicators and I can't see the icons having a negative influence on the site. I would, however, be perfectly fine were the images of the icons changed in accordance with the look of b.next.

TitleObviously keep this, but make two changes:

1) Allow other character sets to be input; and
2) Keep a character limit, increase it, but don't truncate the string. Wrap it around to a new line.

Possibly make the font larger too.
Again, wouldn't mind if certain factors such as this were changed in accordance with the new look.

Reply counterAs odd as it might sound, I think this can contribute to determining whether the topic is worth clicking on (plus, it's always an interesting statistic). Definitely keep this, but maybe move it from the line where the title is displayed and/or decrease the font size.Personally, I think the reply counter could be moved directly to the left of the icons (or replace them depending on your opinion on the icons themselves).

AuthorWhile I can't exactly explain why, I think it is useful to see who has posted a topic from the forum page.No argument here.

Date postedAgain, I have no justification for keeping this here other than it being useful information. However, PLEASE CHANGE IT TO RELATIVE TIME! A rollover which displays the full local date and time would be brilliant too.Seems like a good idea to me, except that assuming that relative time was listed, the rollover to show local time would be unnecessary. That would, however, be an attractive addition within the thread itself.

Who replied lastThis I do not feel is useful enough to warrant it existing on the forum page. That is to say, in the context of viewing the forums to look for topics, whoever posted last is irrelevant.Yeah, it's not exactly necessary by any means, but without it people such as yourself would be quoted a tad less often. If space allows, it, I'd vote to keep it simply because it's been there for so long now.

Date of the last replyConsidering that the forum is sorted chronologically by default, this isn't really all that useful (especially when I can just go into the topic and look at the last reply). The only time this might be useful is if you could sort the forums by different criteria (eg. reply count, etc...).

If it were kept, do the same with the date posted and change it to relative time and include a local timestamp on rollover.
I vote to keep it for the sole reason of it linking you directly to the last reply. It's a very convenient add-on. I also think that it should be aligned to the right of the "Status-bar" or what have you. This would be for organizational purposes as well as visual appeal.

Pager linksI've honestly never used them because I don't find them all that useful. I wouldn't miss them if they disappeared.Can't say I've ever clicked on Page 2 out of 3 before. Not exactly needed, so I wouldn't care if it was removed or not.

Hopefully that explains some of my justifications for wanting the forum topics to change. Now onto posts within topics.

AvatarSorry to disappoint, but as far as what people should be focusing on within the topic, it shouldn't be the avatar. It is too prominent and takes up too much space when it is alongside a post. Given the [current] size of the area where posts are displayed, having the avatar there takes up about a fifth of the total space.

I think it should be removed completely, shrunk considerably (eg. 45x45, 32x32), moved above/below the post, or added dynamically/on-demand as a panel that appears when rolling over the username.
Again, I must pull the tradition card. The Avatars are just too awesome, unique, and special to give up. I can't see how moving them elsewhere would change much, and shrinking them would just make them look bad. The sound of a rollover button that would display the avatar sounds like it may look cool, though. The avatar could easily be moved into the More drop-down box assuming that it is left there.

UsernameYes, keep this. Although what if its position were changed? Beside/below the post contents?It's place at the left of the titlebar is already optimal, however I wouldn't object if the titlebar itself was changed be aligned with the top of the post and to encompass all 670 pixels across the post.

TitleExcept for administrative titles (Employee, Ninja, etc...) and perhaps an indicator for who the OP is (a nice little addition IMO) titles are kind of silly and a waste of space here. I don't really care if they continue to exist, but I don't like the fact they exist in a context where they have little meaning and are bigger than the actual post text. Having them in the panel I was talking about might look nice, and would be appropriate if I cared to learn more about a specific user.I see them to be fine the way they are. They don't really provoke any true elitism, just sarcastic, good willed behavior between members of different titles, which is actually a good thing seeing as it helps to tie together the community. The thought of a higher title also serves as a motivator for [most] members to be on their best behavior. I do like the sound of having OP indication within threads. Perhaps white text over the username as opposed to blue?

Message user linkVery rarely will I use this since I can click someone's profile then hit send message. In that respect it's redundant (and it seems more intuitive to initiate sending a PM from a profile page anyway).Groups linkSame as the above.Assuming that space allows it, may as well leave it in for the convenience factor.

More/Signature arrowWhile the contents of the box that appears as a result of clicking the arrow isn't shown by default, the contents of this box are redundant since I can click a user's profile and get the same information. Again, this information might be more appropriate if displayed in a dynamically added rollover box.This sounds good.

Post buttonsI don't really see any other way these could be displayed. Although, what if these were fixed to the browser window while scrolling through a long post?Hmm, sounds like that might interfere a bit with the post itself. Also seems like it might be a bit complicated what with all the different layers of buttons for each individual post.

TimestampObviously this should stay, but with a few changes:

1) Inclusion of relative time (eg. "10 minutes ago", "3 months ago", "4 years ago", etc...).

2) Inclusion of an English-like timestamp. That means a timestamp like "Today at 5:01 PM", "Yesterday at 11:35 AM", for any recent timestamps instead of what we currently have "10.01.2012 11:17 PM PDT", because if I look at that on its own I don't know whether it's the 10th of January or the 1st of October. Older timestamps should have something like "Wed Oct 17 2012 at 2:44 PM". Structuring and displaying a timestamp in this way is readable by everyone, regardless of their locale.

3) LOCAL TIMESTAMPS! Or at the very least set to UTC. This is VERY important.
Having it be changed to either relative, local, or GMT (possibly with rollover options) sounds like a much needed improvement in my opinion.





Wow, that took longer than I expected to type...

[Edited on 10.27.2012 1:02 AM PDT]

  • 10.27.2012 12:09 AM PDT

Είμαι αυτός που θα σας φέρει τα κάτω, τώρα ακούμε, και να ακούσετε μόνο σε μένα. Οι θεοί είναι νεκροί, όπως θα πάρα πολύ. Ο Δίας, είναι νεκρός, καθώς, το όνομά μου είναι ο Εωσφόρος, το αστέρι το πρωί!

I agree on everything almost completely, except the Avatar thing. I just think we should have something for us to stand out then than our usernames.

  • 10.27.2012 12:16 AM PDT

When I grow up I want to be bitter and spiteful.

"i liked the reality where everything was on fire better"
-legato on remedial chaos theory

It would be wonderful to focus more on the content of posts rather than the bias surrounding them.

A reply counter does not determine whether or not a thread would be "worth clicking". As we often see with the Flood, often the most popular of threads are usually the most controversial of topics, ideally those that seek to get a rise out of the average user. Reply counters are useful in meta-statistics and can be used to differentiate certain threads.

Author
While I can't exactly explain why, I think it is useful to see who has posted a topic from the forum page.
You cannot justify including the author to a post as it runs contrary to your belief upon emphasizing content over the individual. Users should be focusing on the title of the threads, not the author. Usernames are ideal to differentiate posters and aid quotes, not to boast a thread.

[Edited on 10.27.2012 12:20 AM PDT]

  • 10.27.2012 12:19 AM PDT

Vote for me for a free cookie.

I like most of your ideas except the avatar one and a few others

  • 10.27.2012 12:39 AM PDT

Questions lead to learning, learning leads to kowledge, knowledge leads to understanding, understanding leads to peace.



"I would kill to get a killionaire... 10 times... digitally."

I guess he's stressed out with all the quotes from being a ninja.

OT: I agree with most of what you said except the bit about the avatars. I use those to judge who people are and hence how much value their post is worth... not really. But seriously, it is something that just feels right in this build.

  • 10.27.2012 12:46 AM PDT

Rain, and Jazz.
Halo: Tactical

I'm either a fool or an inteligent man, depending on how sleepy or angry I am.

I originaly made an account on 07.27.2007 but I wanted to link my GT and made this account. Don't forget your passwords!

You have some exellent points, and I'm going to eventualy edit this post to discuss them.

I must say though, the thought that we had one of those "new post" icons blew mah ming. I had not made that connectiong until I read that.

EDIT0: Before I not-edit this post for a while, it should be noted that knowing the author is important. I don't want to read threads made by certain individuals sometimes. This could range from me generaly disliking all of their posts to them trolling. I also think relative time should be optional if implimented.

[Edited on 10.27.2012 12:53 AM PDT]

  • 10.27.2012 12:51 AM PDT

Yes to all except avatars.

  • 10.27.2012 12:54 AM PDT
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After about an hour of thinking and typing and trying to fix broken quotes, I've finally managed to contribute to the thread. (See above)

  • 10.27.2012 1:03 AM PDT
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R.I.P. DeathPimp. Never Ending Respect.

"Posted by: Kickimanjaro
I'm trying to become an '04, but it's not working too well."

Remove titles, Keep Colors.

Display "Full Title" at a users profile page.

Easy way to differentiate between Normal, Heroic, Legendary, Mythic without the text.

If someone needs to know, Duardos thread is the place to go.

  • 10.27.2012 1:13 AM PDT

The Forerunner, the Great Journey, and Heaven Theory

[Announcement Trailer] Halo: Forerunner

Posted by: Agustus
I lol'd at the absurd miscommunication that occurs whenever dibbs post something. Perhaps his brain is so highly evolved that he can no longer clearly communicate with lesser life forms, even among his own species.

It seems like you're trying to address the bias associated with preconceived notions in general as opposed to preconceived notions regarding authors solely (not going to give a judgment here...just an observation).

That being said, I personally don't know if this will have the effects you intend. An author's character generally tends to suffuse their posts and, as such, people who have been here a decent amount of time are going to know who posted what regardless of where you decide to put their user names (or whatever other hoops users will have to jump through to see the post creators). I tend to only have preconceived notions towards very specific people and posts and, as such, I'm most likely going to identify and act on my preconceived notions about those authors regardless of how you try to obscure their identities. They are on my radar because of the content of what they post - their username prefacing a post just gets me ready to handle the nonsense/garbage.

  • 10.27.2012 1:24 AM PDT

Кланяються мені!

I do agree I would like Timestamps to be LOCAL. I somewhat agree with thread status icons. I would like it if Bnet where more Dynamic as a whole. As far as that goes I'm split between having thread status refresh itself automatically as posts come in but not actually reordering the topics. The other hand the webpage could dynamically refresh as a whole ever 30-60 seconds.

Little Diagram

Post 1
Post 2
Post 3


somebody posts to 3

Post 1
Post 2
Post 3 *new post*


I hit the refresh button

Post 3 *new post*
Post 1
Post 2


You could accurately use the status icons in a dynamic page without the need to remove them. A useful augmenting feature would be to move (or remove) top forum topics and put a custom block there. You could click and drag threads into the box and as you troll through Bnet they will dynamically update as posts come in to them. This would be especially useful for watching ones own created threads.

  • 10.27.2012 1:29 AM PDT
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I use the date of the last reply (&c) to determine whether I've already read the whole topic to date.

  • 10.27.2012 12:03 PM PDT

I like how Bungie.net already works. I cannot submit to change!

  • 10.27.2012 12:09 PM PDT

Quality post as always daza, I get what you're saying in the OP, my only question lies in this quote:Posted by: dazarobbo
AuthorWhile I can't exactly explain why, I think it is useful to see who has posted a topic from the forum page.

Doesn't this contradict your title? If you can see the author there is still a display of who made the thread and the focus can still lie there.

I know I am probably misconstruing your point but I just wanted to point that out.

  • 10.27.2012 12:19 PM PDT

GOAT

It sounds like you're trying to move it into a more traditional forum layout.

The only change I would like to see is the "Edited on (date)" text. It should be smaller and preferably at the bottom by the same stamp, or so.

[Edited on 10.27.2012 12:26 PM PDT]

  • 10.27.2012 12:25 PM PDT

I suspect llamas are secretly wizards. I <3 poptarts n' milk. I like me. Grimick is defined as: a logical parodox, the act of funnaling a potato down your throat, and a deliciously flavored muffin (with pecons and blueberries). Norway is the Swedish word for 'moron'. My sister has cancer, so i get to use handicap parking and cut small children in line at Disneyland.

"Don't eat doughnuts on thin ice."

"The pancake, my friend, has officially been flipped."

I like a lot of what you're saying.
But then, at the same time I have a lot of irrational attraction to the current system. I like the emphasis on the poster. And so while I like your ideas in your head, my heart pangs with change. Lets hope that whatever system gets put in is one ill love...

Because when it comes down to it, I don't care what you think ;)
I want it my way.
Irrational though it may be

  • 10.27.2012 12:43 PM PDT
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Writer's Corner
6/15/2011 11:39 PM: bobcast [2597260] issued a 3 day ban expiring on 6/18/2011 11:39 PM.
Reason: A Bungie.net Forum Moderator has banned you for violating the code of conduct and/or rules of the forum in the thread below
http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=61704535
Inappropriate. Went a little to far with the butt hole tearing.


Posted by: BlackHeaven
It sounds like you're trying to move it into a more traditional forum layout.

The only change I would like to see is the "Edited on (date)" text. It should be smaller and preferably at the bottom by the same stamp, or so.

  • 10.27.2012 12:54 PM PDT

Key


- Employee and locked topics fall into a single category - those which have some kind of administrative functionality; "this is an [important] announcement" and "this is a topic which you shouldn't create", respectively. I really don't think these need something as big as an icon. A small tag included alongside/adjacent to the topic (a la Reddit's admin/NSFW tags) would be sufficient IMO.Terrible idea. Employee posts and locked topics are very, very inherently different things and should be treated as such. There's absolutely nothing wrong with a topic letting you know if an employee has posted in it. I can actually see your system leading to many pointless thread-openings. "What do you guys think about Halo 4?" in the community forum with this new tag on it could either indicate that an employee has cleared up with somebody what they think of Halo 4 for some reason, or an actual lock. Let's say I click on it to see. If it's a lock, I just wasted my time and there is no employee post of this nature at all. Now, if it's an employee post and I just assume it's a lock and don't open it, I could've missed something I may have wanted to read.

It's a terrible mix.

-Pinned and Pinned and locked icons are redundant since they both appear in the pinned topics section. Pinned and locked topics could easily have the "locked tag" applied as well.PinLocked is clearly meant to be a notice, and Pinned is a pinned topic for discussion. They're two very different things, and making them the same thing is pointless.

- Archived topics could probably have the same kind of tag applied, but I don't really have an opinion on them since I don't think topics should be archived at all.Stops pointless necrobumps.

Date postedAgain, I have no justification for keeping this here other than it being useful information. However, PLEASE CHANGE IT TO RELATIVE TIME! A rollover which displays the full local date and time would be brilliant too.Didn't Acky say this'd be annoying to do?

Who replied lastThis I do not feel is useful enough to warrant it existing on the forum page. That is to say, in the context of viewing the forums to look for topics, whoever posted last is irrelevant.In the context of forums in general, your point is irrelevant. If you honestly can't see the point behind wanting to jump to the end of a thread then I have no idea how you're articulate enough to have typed this all out because the advantage and point is rather clear.

AvatarSorry to disappoint, but as far as what people should be focusing on within the topic, it shouldn't be the avatar. It is too prominent and takes up too much space when it is alongside a post. Given the [current] size of the area where posts are displayed, having the avatar there takes up about a fifth of the total space.

I think it should be removed completely, shrunk considerably (eg. 45x45, 32x32), moved above/below the post, or added dynamically/on-demand as a panel that appears when rolling over the username.
Yeah. That's right. Take away a major way people identify themselves and others within the community and make the forums overall more boring. That'd make this place so much better. Great idea, daz.

TitleExcept for administrative titles (Employee, Ninja, etc...) and perhaps an indicator for who the OP is (a nice little addition IMO) titles are kind of silly and a waste of space here. I don't really care if they continue to exist, but I don't like the fact they exist in a context where they have little meaning and are bigger than the actual post text. Having them in the panel I was talking about might look nice, and would be appropriate if I cared to learn more about a specific user.Again, this is something for fun. This is something for identification. This is something clearly not necessary but that people like because it adds something to the forums in a way other sites don't do it. Not everything has to be essential. Why do you want to strip the site down to the bare minimum? What the -blam!- is the point of that?

Message user linkVery rarely will I use this since I can click someone's profile then hit send message. In that respect it's redundantNo it isn't. It's clearly easier to message someone if you're scrolling through a thread, see a post you want to respond to in an off-topic manner, and just click the 'message user' link.

(and it seems more intuitive to initiate sending a PM from a profile page anyway).Not even a little. It CLEARLY takes longer to do that, so why would I do it?

Post buttonswhat if these were fixed to the browser window while scrolling through a long post?This, I like.

2) Inclusion of an English-like timestamp. That means a timestamp like "Today at 5:01 PM", "Yesterday at 11:35 AM", for any recent timestamps instead of what we currently have "10.01.2012 11:17 PM PDT", because if I look at that on its own I don't know whether it's the 10th of January or the 1st of October. Older timestamps should have something like "Wed Oct 17 2012 at 2:44 PM". Structuring and displaying a timestamp in this way is readable by everyone, regardless of their locale.In the same vein of "this is an english-speaking game developer's website so deal with the fact that you have to speak and read english": This is an American game developer's website so deal with the fact that you have to deal with an American way of writing dates. The fact that you want this displays a pretty clear double standard.

  • 10.27.2012 12:55 PM PDT

This is the way the world ends,
This is the way the world ends,
This is the way the world ends;
Not with a bang but a whimper.

Honestly, I like it how it is. I know that simple statement does not do your monolith of though justice, and perhaps I am simply afraid of change, but I don't think avatars are distracting nor would I want them changed. A lot of these things are what give users a sense of individuality, which is predominately why people return to these forums. If you take away that sense of self on this forum, you may find yourself taking away the sense of community as well.

  • 10.27.2012 12:58 PM PDT

Posted by: FALSE R3ALITYx
Bricypoo's custom user title = Ultra Lame Thread Maker


Posted by: True Underdog
Only after we ban Bricypoo.

This, literally describes my exact feelings. Avatars ar eone of the many ways I can remember users rather quickly actually.
Posted by: xXIHAYD0IXx
Honestly, I like it how it is. I know that simple statement does not do your monolith of though justice, and perhaps I am simply afraid of change, but I don't think avatars are distracting nor would I want them changed. A lot of these things are what give users a sense of individuality, which is predominately why people return to these forums. If you take away that sense of self on this forum, you may find yourself taking away the sense of community as well.


[Edited on 10.27.2012 1:04 PM PDT]

  • 10.27.2012 1:04 PM PDT

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten

You could do as /4/chan does with anonymous user ########.

  • 10.27.2012 1:12 PM PDT

Key


Posted by: spartain ken 15
You could do as /4/chan does with anonymous user ########.
One of the worst ideas I've ever seen suggested.

  • 10.27.2012 1:12 PM PDT

Είμαι αυτός που θα σας φέρει τα κάτω, τώρα ακούμε, και να ακούσετε μόνο σε μένα. Οι θεοί είναι νεκροί, όπως θα πάρα πολύ. Ο Δίας, είναι νεκρός, καθώς, το όνομά μου είναι ο Εωσφόρος, το αστέρι το πρωί!


Posted by: CrazzySnipe55

Posted by: spartain ken 15
You could do as /4/chan does with anonymous user ########.
One of the worst ideas I've ever seen suggested.
No wonder /b/ hates everyone.

[Edited on 10.27.2012 1:18 PM PDT]

  • 10.27.2012 1:18 PM PDT
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Is there really that big a focus on who is behind posts nowadays? Unless they're a moderator or staff member I don't think anyone cares. And I assume with any proposed changes moderators and staff members would still be more visible.

So I don't really see the point. Removing the avatar and getting rid of the margin would just look silly from a design standpoint (text would be way too wide) and I personally enjoy being able to see what people choose to express themselves as their avatar (lies, i just like still having a custom one + having a bunch in the gallery i made).

*shrug* I dunno, seems fine. Forums are meant to be for you to express YOUR opinion, not an anonymous one. I don't see a problem with having a name attached to posts.

-TGP-

  • 10.27.2012 1:22 PM PDT

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