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Subject: Well this is Bizarre. Where's Osiris and Seven Seraphs?

As some of you may recall, back on Bungie Day the webteam released several new avatars and themes for use on Bungie.net. Among them we found five symbols that had been popping up on employee shirts which appeared to match the names that Bungie registered domains for and copyrighted way back when, symbols which we currently believe belong to five in-game factions:
bungiedayav1 - Dead Orbit
bungiedayav2 - Future War Cult
bungiedayav3 - New Monarchy
bungiedayav4 - Osiris
bungiedayav5 - Seven Seraphs
To go along with the avatars, Bungie released several shirts featuring these symbols in their store, and their product infos strongly hinted towards a correlations between the symbols and the domain names that had been registered. However for some reason, only Dead Orbit, Future War Cult, and New Monarchy got a shirt. Osiris and the Seven Seraphs were left without one.

If all five of these symbols represent playable factions, it sorta seems like an oversight to not create a shirt for all five. When asked about the missing shirts in the 25th mailsack, DeeJ completely avoided the question. So why was Osiris and Seven Seraphs left out? It was a question many asked, but was soon forgotten.

But I became suspicious once again when I read the 26th Mailsack and found that after being asked, "Which is your favorite Avatar that was added on Bungie Day?", the Bungie employees recommended Future War Cult, New Monarchy, Dead Orbit... but Osiris and the Seven Seraphs were nowhere to be found. Again, that seems odd to me.

On one hand, it may very well be that the seven panelists might simply prefer those designs over Seven Seraphs and Osiris. But on the other hand, what if there was a different reason for their motivation? If these symbols do represent playable factions, then it would make sense for the employees to choose the faction they like most. So if nobody chose Osiris or the Seven Seraphs, does that mean that they aren't in the game anymore or they aren't what we think they are?

I created a thread about this which garnered a little discussion, but quickly died and became forgotten. I myself had forgotten entirely about Seven Seraph's and Osiris' neglect until I read last night's mailsack. After reading about the Pumpking Carving contest, I went to facebook for more details:We have a new photo gallery live right here on Facebook. Would you like to win some rare Bungie swag? Carve a pumpkin based on any of the mysterious icons that are being baked into our work-in-progress.

Step 1: Cut a hole in a [pumpkin].
Step 2: Create a work of physical art based on our graphical art.
Step 3: Post to your Facebook page.
Step 4: Take a screenshot.
Step 5: Link to it in a comment to this update.
Step 6: Check back here on Halloween to vote on finalists.
Step 7: Dominate the World.

Here is subject matter for your inspiration.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151109351731149.4 44183.57193326148&type=1

Reap your reward.

Grand Prize = Bungie hoodie
7 Finalists = Bungie t-shirt
Having three uncarved pumpkins myself, I clicked on the Subject Matter Gallery to see what I had to work with.

...

Once again. Dead Orbit. New Monarchy. Future War Cult. But no Osiris, and no Seven Seraphs.

Has Osiris and Dead Orbit become the Thom and Rosenda of Destiny? Or were we wrong to assume that all five of the symbols were playable factions? It just seems bizarre that they would introduce these five symbols and only actively promote three of them, and now I am certain that there has to be a reason behind this uneven support.

I am incredibly curious to see if any Seven Seraphs or Osiris entries make it to the finals of the Pumpkin Carving Contest, I highly encourage someone to carve these designs into their pumpkins to see what happens.

Your thoughts, community?

  • 10.27.2012 9:30 AM PDT

This is DeeJ, he probably forgot to add them in.

  • 10.27.2012 9:32 AM PDT

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There's something fishy with them. Maybe they're something entirely different from our 'factions'.

  • 10.27.2012 9:32 AM PDT

Posted by: ARBITOR 5
This is DeeJ, he probably forgot to add them in.
Incompetent though he may regularly be, I somehow doubt that even DeeJ would be so consistently forgetful.

  • 10.27.2012 9:34 AM PDT


Posted by: Hylebos
Posted by: ARBITOR 5
This is DeeJ, he probably forgot to add them in.
Incompetent though he may regularly be, I somehow doubt that even DeeJ would be so consistently forgetful.
Haha I suppose. Talk about being lost..

  • 10.27.2012 9:41 AM PDT

Seeing Osiris bears an eye and The 7 Seraphs seems very specific, I've always carried the belief they are "above" that of FWC, DO and NM.

  • 10.27.2012 10:04 AM PDT
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Could be these two factions are our enemies in their next game (like a government of sorts).

  • 10.27.2012 10:06 AM PDT
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I'm guessing that they only like Dead Orbit, New Monarchy, and FWC because those are the only playable factions in the game, while the others aren't. They already have a playable build at the Studios, so yeah.

  • 10.27.2012 10:10 AM PDT

meh...


Posted by: lime013
I'm guessing that they only like Dead Orbit, New Monarchy, and FWC because those are the only playable factions in the game, while the others aren't. They already have a playable build at the Studios, so yeah.

was thinking the exact same thing

  • 10.27.2012 10:29 AM PDT

Posted by: Duardo
Could be these two factions are our enemies in their next game (like a government of sorts).


Or possibly one is the good guys and one is the bad guys.

Also, Isn't there a picture of a employee wearing a Osiris shirt?

  • 10.27.2012 10:35 AM PDT

Posted by: I ZEROC00L I
Also, Isn't there a picture of a employee wearing a Osiris shirt?
Osiris shirt and Seven Seraphs shirt.

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I'm sure this is not a big issue. Considering how long they have been working on the game and the amount of attention they have seemingly given to each division (by wearing the t-shirts that symbolize "something important" in the game) I'm sure Osiris and Seven Seraphs are still key to Project Destiny.

We'll find out soon 2013.

  • 10.27.2012 2:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: Mythical Zero
I'm sure this is not a big issue. Considering how long they have been working on the game and the amount of attention they have seemingly given to each division (by wearing the t-shirts that symbolize "something important" in the game) I'm sure Osiris and Seven Seraphs are still key to Project Destiny.

We'll find out soon 2013.


It's Bungie... Things as subtle as this can only be examined further.

  • 10.27.2012 2:25 PM PDT


Posted by: Lobster Fish 2
Posted by: I ZEROC00L I
Also, Isn't there a picture of a employee wearing a Osiris shirt?
Osiris shirt and Seven Seraphs shirt.
So if they have the shirts for the Osiris and Seven Seraphs (favorite symbol), why can't we buy them?

  • 10.27.2012 2:32 PM PDT

Posted by: AngryBrute1
Oh yeah, since somebody does not believe what YOU believe; that makes us vapid...
I cannot grasp that what you call "Something happened to nothing, and that nothing became something, and it was smaller than than a period."

Seven Seraphs probably would be one of the easier ones to carve, I would hope he just forgot to put them in.

  • 10.27.2012 2:53 PM PDT

Posted by: chaos fighter
Posted by: Lobster Fish 2
Posted by: I ZEROC00L I
Also, Isn't there a picture of a employee wearing a Osiris shirt?
Osiris shirt and Seven Seraphs shirt.
So if they have the shirts for the Osiris and Seven Seraphs (favorite symbol), why can't we buy them?
Exactly. Also, when exactly were those pictures taken? I don't have the time to investigate at the moment (writing a Raytracer in Python) or the evidence on hand to back up the following statement, but I'm not sure I've seen any Bungie Employees wearing Osiris or Seven Seraphs shirts for a while, just the New Monarchy, Dead Orbit, and Future War Cult shirts.

For a while Noble Team was comprised of seven spartans, Thom and Rosenda were cut early on in the design process. Perhaps the same could be said for Osiris and Seven Seraphs. Because even if they aren't playable factions and serve as evil goverments / enemies / whatever, I don't see why they would be excluded from a Pumpking Carving contest. They're supposedly art assets from Bungie's next game right? Does it matter what they are?

Mysterious.

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  • 10.27.2012 2:58 PM PDT

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Maybe this. However, as mentioned throughout this thread, we are talking about DeeJ a.k.a Turd of the Year 2011 and 2012.
Posted by: Duardo
Could be these two factions are our enemies in their next game (like a government of sorts).

  • 10.27.2012 3:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: Duardo
Could be these two factions are our enemies in their next game (like a government of sorts).

Exactly what I was going to post.

  • 10.27.2012 3:39 PM PDT

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Maybe they are saved for the expansion?

EDIT: is mentioning anything from the Activision contract concidered leaking, in this case the code name of it?

[Edited on 10.27.2012 3:54 PM PDT]

  • 10.27.2012 3:46 PM PDT

Posted by: the real Janaka
Maybe they are saved for the expansion?

EDIT: is mentioning anything from the Activision contract concidered leaking, in this case the code name of it?
Activision was the one who publicly released their own contract, so no. Otherwise we all would have been banned ages ago.

  • 10.27.2012 4:43 PM PDT

But Hyle you seem to be overlooking one crucial factor and that is this: Dead Orbit is, in line with popular belief, the Best Orbit that has ever been made available.

Dead Orbit is the Best Orbit.

All others are irrelevant.

  • 10.27.2012 4:48 PM PDT

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For some reason I never saw the Seven Seraphs as a faction. But I did think Osiris was one. I guess well find out next year ;,,,;

  • 10.27.2012 4:50 PM PDT
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Isn't it obvious! Osiris and Seven Seraphs are the Recon Armor and flaming helmet of the future.

Looking forward to many "BUNIGE CAN U LET ME IN OSIRIS PLZ" threads in the future.

  • 10.27.2012 4:50 PM PDT

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Posted by: burritosenior
But Hyle you seem to be overlooking one crucial factor and that is this: Dead Orbit is, in line with popular belief, the Best Orbit that has ever been made available.

Dead Orbit is the Best Orbit.

All others are irrelevant.


Before I clicked on this thread I noticed you were its most recent replier. Even then I knew your post would be about how Dead Orbit is clearly the more superior of the factions.

  • 10.27.2012 4:52 PM PDT

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"BUNIGE CAN U LET ME IN OSIRIS PLZ"
*Predicts a year in the future* Har harr. You can only be let in on Bungie Day.

  • 10.27.2012 5:09 PM PDT

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