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Posted by: Primo84
Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Sir Fragula
I said the comparison was apt, not exact. If you were to compare Gary Glitter to Jimmy Savile it would also be apt even though the two's crimes are different in scope.
Halsey created 75 living, breathing Human clones whose sole purpose was to die. She wasn't a nice woman and frankly she's never been portrayed as one.
I don't think anybody is saying Halsey is a nice woman, simply that she isn't the evilest person in the galaxy as Traviss would have us believe.Halsey wasn't portrayed as evil by Traviss. She was flawed, and we saw her through the eyes of other flawed characters.
I really don't want to go searching for a past reply to copy/paste.
Look at my past page. She's treated as being evil and morally wrong, and the guys on 'moral high ground' are far worse.
Posted by: Sir Fragula
Posted by: Xd00999
Posted by: Sir Fragula
Personally I think Glasslands is the best written Halo book since Fall of Reach. The comparison of Halsey to Mengle is completely apt.
Just a quick question, but can you point me to Halsey's twin experiments? Or where Halsey sent people to death camps? Mengele was far, far worst than Halsey ever was.
I said the comparison was apt, not exact. If you were to compare Gary Glitter to Jimmy Savile it would also be apt even though the two's crimes are different in scope.
Halsey created 75 living, breathing Human clones whose sole purpose was to die. She wasn't a nice woman and frankly she's never been portrayed as one.
She created 75 clones so the families would have CLOSURE. Instead of sitting there constantly wondering what became of their child, they would have a funeral, and move on. It wouldn't be years of putting posters on street lamps "Have you see my child john?"
Morally questionable yes. Evil? perhaps. Not nice? maybe.
But the INTENT was good.
No, Halsey isn't nice. But she is not evil, and not near the level of comparison there. Glasslands, as the trope page says, points that basically she did the Spartans because of scientific curiousity and "I wonder..." instead of seeing the data and going "This is the only way we can go that doesn't involve massive bloodshed." as well as being hired by ONI to make the Spartans.
Glasslands shoves a "HALSEY IS EVIL AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD BECAUSE YOU DON'T THINK THAT" viewpoint :/.
Edit: Oh yeah, she also paints the picture that it's basically impossible to have an elite-human peace.
Yet at the same time, she shows us a human colony which did declare itself independant near the end of the war, and it has humans, jackals, brutes, and I think even grunts living together peacefully.
If the three races KNOWN for eating humans can live with a human neighbor, why can't elites?
[Edited on 10.28.2012 12:29 PM PDT]