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The first game should be Halo. If they could somehow fit the layout of an Xbox controller onto a Handheld, use minidiscs of some sort and make Halo for it, I would throw my GBA SP under a moving bus.

  • 09.30.2004 12:16 AM PDT

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Well i wouldn't say that they really NEED a handheld, but it would be a good money maker.

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No - they don't.

It would be a suicidal move on MS's part, and they're taking enough chances with the Xenon.

  • 09.30.2004 5:50 AM PDT
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No - they don't.

It would be a suicidal move on MS's part, and they're taking enough chances with the Xenon.


Could you explain why you said that? I’ve seen your list of collectables on games and consoles that you own, I would like to know why you think that.

  • 09.30.2004 7:08 AM PDT

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Simple -- And remember - it's only my opinion, so don't flame or anything.

Nintendo has dominated the market early on, and continues to do so. Nintendo's current system currently has over 3,000 games availiable for it - Counting GB, GBC, SGB, and GBA titles. The number one player for these systems for the last 10 years has been the adult that want's a simple game fix.

For example - The GameGear was a handheld Color portable, that had a better resolution than the GameBoy, It was far faster, and didn't produce a blur, better games etc, It should have whooped the GameBoy, The NEC TurboExpress should have killed it too!
But they didn't for a couple of reasons.
#1 Value - by the time these systems were out - The GameBoy was cheaper and had more availiable.
#2 Post Purchase Cost - The GameGear went through batteries 3 times as fast as the GameBoy and used 2 more batteries, the Turbo Express used 4 Batteries like the Game Boy, but burned them up in about an hour and a half.
#3 Availability - At that time Nintendo was established as a name and simply crowded Sega and NEC out.

The GameBoy's initial success and continued success meant that they could recover from a big marketing mistake in '95 when they released the Virtual Boy. The Game Boy Color added value to Nintendos market because it could play all the old GameBoy games.

So people were happy that they didn't have to throw out their old system and games for the new one, and all was well in NintendoLand - Competition once again tried to interfere with Dictator Mario's HandHeld Monopoly. Neo-Geo. The Neo-Geo Pocket was a Black and white system with 16-bit graphics - clearer and smoother than anything the GameBoy or GameBoy Color could put out. It didn't initially sell well because people who had been asking for a color Nintendo portable since the days of GameGear and Lynx, finally had one, and the new system didn't even have color! SNK fixed the problem but soon went under. And the NeoGeo Pocket color™ simply couldn't get any marketing, not that it would have mattered much.

The GameBoy Advance Debuts, and The Nokia N-Gage debuts. The N-Gage is vastly superior in terms of processing power and graphic handling, yet they are failing too. Nintendo's success with the other two systems has caused more and more to buy their new system, while shunning the N-Gage - Only in Europe, where the Nintendo Marketing Muscle hadn't penetrated right, does the N-Gage have a healthy following.( On a side note - the Sega Master System also did better in Europe than the NES, because of Europes anti Monopoly laws - the Sega had more of a chance there)

Sadly - The PSP looks to go the same way. It's going to be amazing hardware, but new hardware brings with it risks, and do you want to risk your $300 up front with a company that has yet to prove how it will do in the handheld market? Some of us may say yes - but the majority will say "not yet". The period of doubt it what will make or break a system. And I feel that MicroSoft would have an even harder time trying to pull something like this off...

MicroSoft had a hard enough time getting into the Console game -- and even now are only a weak second place...

I hope this was a good enough explanation.
-JIM

  • 09.30.2004 8:07 AM PDT
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It was great thanks.

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holy crap.Awesome point.

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Jim, did you buy an N-Gage? Are you getting the DS? The DS and PSP look really cool, but I'm going with the DS. If I had $500 to spare, I'd buy them both.

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I do have an N-Gage - But I got it for $20 bucks from an angry friend.

I would recommend the DS over the PSP, but not by much -- I'll actually put my money on the GBA beating out the hopes of them both -- Nintendo beaten by Nintendo, heh. The DS has more potential from a purely technical standpoint though -- Dual Screens and a pressure sensitive screen will open up many new ways to interact.

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Yeah, the DS is one cool handhald. I just think it's strange that you can buy a Gamecube with Metroid Prime for $100, while the DS alone is $150.

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That's the way of Technology --

I had a 386/33MHz PC almost 15 years ago that cost my parents $3000.

I now have a P4/2.8GHz PC that cost me $600.

That's the way it goes -- Technology gets cheaper as it get's older -- The GameCube is down, the DS is newer and the tech costs more.

For now.

  • 09.30.2004 9:41 AM PDT
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yay.

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microsoft doesnt need a handheld because the 95 % belongs to nintendo.

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I think you mean 99%.

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no, wonderswan, n gage, gp 32, etc. but nintendo is the best making videogame systems

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Posted by: Nintendo Nº1
no, wonderswan, n gage, gp 32, etc. but nintendo is the best making videogame systems


Nintendo only holds that 90% here in the US, in Europe and Japan, it's considerably lower, although still the dominant share. The NGage is actually catching up to the GBA in Europe rather quickly, and WonderSwan is still marketable, even after their mistakes with it.

But as far as consoles go, Nintendo only had better luck (until the 64). The Sega Master System was vastly superior to the NES, and the Genesis was much faster than the SNES, although not as many colors were availiable from the pallette. Nintendo is the best is an extremely biased statement -- I can name way better systems than any of Nintendo's - except the Virtual Boy, and then only because it didn't really have direct competition.


I do love Nintendo though -- so don't think I am biased towards any system.


[Edited on 9/30/2004 11:26:02 AM]

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