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Subject: Sangheili Dialect

-Ni’ fen fuex-

(if you dont know what it means...your obviously not Sangheili enough :P)

Hello everyone, just wondering if anyone has a complete/nearly complete list of the Sangheili dialect and there equivilant in english? Prehaps someone from Bungie knows all the words?
Thanks peeps o+o

  • 11.03.2012 6:48 PM PDT

*Sangheili language

A dialect is a variation of a present language. Sangheili is not a variation of any present languages in the Halo universe.

And no, I don't know what their words mean.

  • 11.03.2012 6:55 PM PDT

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"Happiness is like glass, you might not always notice it but if you change your view and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light."

There is a few words in Glasslands and Thursday War if I remember right. Here is a small list that I found on Halopedia.

Unggoy - Grunt
Kig-Yar - Jackal
Sangheili - Elite
Yanme'e - Drone
Jiralhanae - Brute
Lekgolo - Hunter
San' Shyuum - Prophet
Huragok - Engineer
Wort - Go
Kaidon - Clan leader
Nishum - Intestinal parasite or tapeworm

  • 11.03.2012 7:01 PM PDT

-Ni’ fen fuex-

(if you dont know what it means...your obviously not Sangheili enough :P)

I have a dicionary from somewhere that has a lot, heres a link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?81wlb1bdx0w3mac
And the post with that link:
http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=63989200

[Edited on 11.03.2012 7:16 PM PDT]

  • 11.03.2012 7:11 PM PDT

He's right on top of us! I wonder if he is using the same wind we are using...

Ockeghem
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Sure there is!

Hello = wort wort wort!
Goodbye = wort wort wort!
What time is it? = wort wort wort!
Where is the restroom? = wort wort wort!
What is the special on the menue today? = wort wort wort!

Everything you need for that holiday in Sanghelios!



[Edited on 11.03.2012 7:22 PM PDT]

  • 11.03.2012 7:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: Jason W
There is a few words in Glasslands and Thursday War if I remember right. Here is a small list that I found on Halopedia.

Unggoy - Grunt
Kig-Yar - Jackal
Sangheili - Elite
Yanme'e - Drone
Jiralhanae - Brute
Lekgolo - Hunter
San' Shyuum - Prophet
Huragok - Engineer
Wort - Go
Kaidon - Clan leader
Nishum - Intestinal parasite or tapeworm


Damn, beat me to it.

  • 11.03.2012 9:51 PM PDT

There are different Sangheili languages - the ones we hear in Reach and the ones in Halo 4 are different, as far as I'm aware, with the latter being a much older language - Neru Pe 'Odosima, for example.

It sounds Japanese. You've got to wonder if there's something to that; one of the Sangheili's oldest languages uses the same phonetics as Japanese, Ancient Human ruins in The Babysitter are Feudal Japanese in appearance...

I'm studying the English Language at an analytical level, and that includes researching it's origins - I've read a fair few books on the subject, and inevitably learned about other languages too.

Unlike English and most other languages, Japanese is a language with hazy origins; no one really knows where it first came from. It may share a similar font to Chinese in written language (Kanji), but spoken it's not like any other language on Earth, which is a rare thing in linguistics.

Some of the more absurd theorists suggest the language was brought by Ancient Aliens. I know, obligatory 'I'm not saying it's aliens but aliens meme.'

In the context of the Halo universe though, it's not so ridiculous. We know we were visited by Ancient Aliens. What if the Japanese language is a descendant of whatever the Forerunners spoke?

It'd make sense for an isolated island nation like Japan to be most influenced by the language spoken by the Forerunners, since they had little to no exposure for tens of thousands of years to other human cultures. Over time the original Forerunner would warp until unrecognisable, but it'd contain the same phonemes and phonetics.

If the Sangheili were a servant race of the Forerunners (pretty clear they were, by all the Forerunner relics on Sanghelios,) it'd explain why one of the oldest languages their people speak is so similar to Japanese. It too is a bastardisation of Forerunner; that much is apparently said in Ghosts of Onyx.

That's why the Sangheili in Halo 4 sound Japanese.

[Edited on 11.04.2012 10:02 AM PST]

  • 11.04.2012 9:43 AM PDT

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Posted by: Wolverfrog
It'd make sense for an isolated island nation like Japan to be most influenced by the language spoken by the Forerunners, since they had little to no exposure for tens of thousands of years to other human cultures. Over time the original Forerunner would warp until unrecognisable, but it'd contain the same phonemes and phonetics.

If the Sangheili were a servant race of the Forerunners (pretty clear they were, by all the Forerunner relics on Sanghelios,) it'd explain why one of the oldest languages their people speak is so similar to Japanese. It too is a bastardisation of Forerunner; that much is apparently said in Ghosts of Onyx.

That's why the Sangheili in Halo 4 sound Japanese.
But how about if the connection between past en present through the Japanese language is from the ancient human beings, rather than Forerunners, because of their imprinted memories, Geas? I don't know if you've heard the audio book version of Primordium, but in it the Lord of Admirals speaks in a way that reminds me of Japanese. Idk...

  • 11.04.2012 10:49 AM PDT


Posted by: Iver lunJunasee
I have a dicionary from somewhere that has a lot, heres a link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?81wlb1bdx0w3mac
And the post with that link:
http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=63989200
Well you have more info than most of us, so really you already had a better answer than most of us.

  • 11.04.2012 10:51 AM PDT


Posted by: the real Janaka
Posted by: Wolverfrog
It'd make sense for an isolated island nation like Japan to be most influenced by the language spoken by the Forerunners, since they had little to no exposure for tens of thousands of years to other human cultures. Over time the original Forerunner would warp until unrecognisable, but it'd contain the same phonemes and phonetics.

If the Sangheili were a servant race of the Forerunners (pretty clear they were, by all the Forerunner relics on Sanghelios,) it'd explain why one of the oldest languages their people speak is so similar to Japanese. It too is a bastardisation of Forerunner; that much is apparently said in Ghosts of Onyx.

That's why the Sangheili in Halo 4 sound Japanese.
But how about if the connection between past en present through the Japanese language is from the ancient human beings, rather than Forerunners, because of their imprinted memories, Geas? I don't know if you've heard the audio book version of Primordium, but in it the Lord of Admirals speaks in a way that reminds me of Japanese. Idk...


I don't like audio-books, but I was just thinking myself that it's more likely to be Ancient Humanity who passed down the language.

The ruins of Babysitter are an obvious teller. I'll even say that Samurai masks (without the helm) are vaguely reminsicent of what the Lord of Admirals is described as wearing - they cover the lower half of the voice and leave the forehead and ears exposed, as well as the eyes because obviously you can't make iron visors.

Proto-Japanese culture, from aesthetics to language, seems like a degraded version of what we know Ancient Humanity's culture. The question is why the Sangheili would share the same phonetics of that language. We haven't seen them at all in the Forerunner saga, but we know the Forerunners had a presence there from Origins and all the Forerunner relics on Sanghelios.

Maybe Sanghelios was one of the worlds Ancient Humanity invaded after the Flood crippled us, and then the Forerunners 'liberated' them from us and made them a servant race, but the language remained from the time of human occupation.

That'd be a pretty cool twist, and it's honestly one I can see being pulled in Silentium and then surfacing in the third K5 book. It'd explain the artistic direction of The Duel, why their language sounds Japanese in Halo 4 and the ruins in Babysitter.

  • 11.04.2012 11:08 AM PDT

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Posted by: Wolverfrog
Maybe Sanghelios was one of the worlds Ancient Humanity invaded after the Flood crippled us, and then the Forerunners 'liberated' them from us and made them a servant race, but the language remained from the time of human occupation.

That'd be a pretty cool twist, and it's honestly one I can see being pulled in Silentium and then surfacing in the third K5 book. It'd explain the artistic direction of The Duel, why their language sounds Japanese in Halo 4 and the ruins in Babysitter.
I agree, that would be a cool twist, and best of all, it would work (as far as I see anyway).

  • 11.04.2012 11:34 AM PDT

-Ni’ fen fuex-

(if you dont know what it means...your obviously not Sangheili enough :P)

Maybe, we should start, right here and now, start writing up a 'modern' version of the Sangheili language? Take what we can find laying around from other's research and such, and compile it here, filling in the blanks o+o

I'll start:
Eni (een-ee): Yes, affirmitive, postivtive

  • 11.16.2012 11:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: Iver lunJunasee
Maybe, we should start, right here and now, start writing up a 'modern' version of the Sangheili language? Take what we can find laying around from other's research and such, and compile it here, filling in the blanks o+o

I'll start:
Eni (een-ee): Yes, affirmitive, postivtive
Compiling a complete translation of the sangheili language is impossible since most of the stuff they say is just jibberish and has no translation.

  • 11.16.2012 11:45 AM PDT

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  • 11.16.2012 12:17 PM PDT


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wort wort wort!!
Wort, wort?!

  • 11.16.2012 3:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: Ockeghem
Sure there is!

Hello = blarg!
Goodbye = blarg!
What time is it? = blarg!
Where is the restroom? = blarg blarg!
What is the special on the menue today? = blarg!

Everything you need for that holiday in Sanghelios!



fix'd

  • 11.17.2012 12:04 AM PDT
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Posted by: IslocStarkiller

Posted by: Ockeghem
Sure there is!

Hello = blarg!
Goodbye = blarg!
What time is it? = blarg!
Where is the restroom? = blarg blarg!
What is the special on the menue today? = blarg!

Everything you need for that holiday in Sanghelios!



fix'd


You forgot the damn honks you imbecile.

Any Sangheili you Blarg at is likely to run you through with his Uncle's sword.

  • 11.17.2012 2:29 AM PDT