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Subject: Cortana (SPOILERS)

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I finished solo Legendary a few hours ago. We've left not really knowing what becomes of Cortana. Does she fade into nothingness or what? My thoughts:

343 thinks that fighting the Covenant is so vital to Halo, it has to come back in this trilogy even though it makes no sense in the canon. Yeah, the books explain why, the they explain why because 343 wanted the Covenant to be enemies in the games, not the other way around. Even that they won't let go of. What's the two most important parts of Halo? The Chief and Cortana. If they can't even let go of humans versus Covenant, there's no way they're letting go of Cortana, especially this early in the series.

At the end of Halo 4, although Cortana had lost most of her data, and presumable her chip, she was still intact. And it is clear she doesn't need a chip, since she can move throughout networks. What comes after rampancy? Metastability. And that's when an AI is said to be a full person. If any AI can achieve that, it's Cortana. And if she's metastable, does she even need a network, or has she transcended that? She certainly seemed to have transcendede that at the end of Halo 4. And perhaps this concept is also related to what the Truth And Reconciliation's AI meant when it said it would be free (CEA terminal). And Cortana was clearly still intact, but had lost most of her data. What causes rampancy? Too much data. Too much thought. If she lost all that data, it's the AI equivilent of anti-aging. Sure, this might go against the metastable theory, but perhaps losing the data which causes rampancy is part of the process to achieving metastability. And not to mention Cortana was more powerful than ever before at the end of Halo 4, surely a mere nuclear explosion couldn't defeat her.

And if my theory is correct, perhaps the Forerunner technology which aimed to achieve immortality will be used for Cortana, so she'll get a physical body (robotic, but still be far more real than, say, Spark).

As for how she escapes the nuclear explosion, either she manages it herself, or perhaps the Librarian rescues her, and maybe even (if she still relies on networks and computer chips) transfers her into either a Forerunner network (temporarily) or a body like I described in the previous paragraph.

And if she does get her own body, maybe she can take tissue from Halsey (sort of like what was stated as a possible way of saving her from rampancy in the earlier levels of Halo 4) to make it biomechanical, or even biological.

Cortana will come back... we'll just have to wait to see how.

  • 11.06.2012 7:26 PM PDT
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"Better a little which is well done, than a great deal imperfectly." - Plato

I read a great theory as to what happened to her earlier. I will try and find it to share.

  • 11.06.2012 7:27 PM PDT
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Nope, Chuck Testa.

  • 11.06.2012 7:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: T21095
I read a great theory as to what happened to her earlier. I will try and find it to share.

Are you talking about the one where she essentially "fuses" with the Diadact?

  • 11.06.2012 7:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: T21095
I read a great theory as to what happened to her earlier. I will try and find it to share.

Please do, I would love to see it.

  • 11.06.2012 7:34 PM PDT

Link or it didn't happen.

Didn't the librarian say that the reason they couldn't bring a consciousness back (without it being an abomination) from transcendence, was because the thoughts were fragmented from when they transcended? Perhaps without a fragmented mind, they could construct Cortana using forerunner tech. But this would require Cortana not having the fragmented consciousness to begin with (which she obviously did have due to her rampancy).

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Hey, uh, if you like vs threads, then check out this little group right here, if you have the time. It's pretty fun, just hop right in.

She died, and I knew it weeks in advance. I hope she stays dead. It'd be a total cop-out if she came back after that memorable death, kind of like if Johnson suddenly reappeared.

  • 11.06.2012 7:35 PM PDT

Posted by: DovaChief
Nope, Chuck Testa.

  • 11.06.2012 7:35 PM PDT

Cortana needs to stay dead. John is learning how to be a human rather than just a machine, and the first thing a human must do is learn to let go.

His Spartan II squad mates are still alive, and Lasky's alive, both of which I'll wager are in Halo 5. That's a good enough fall back for him, Cortana doesn't need to be alive.

  • 11.06.2012 7:37 PM PDT
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I suppose Cortana could go learn the Kaioken technique and be wished back into existence by the Dragonballs. :p

  • 11.06.2012 7:45 PM PDT

There is a certain point of tolerance that should never be reached.

She was still "alive" when she teleported John away from the nuke blast. My two theories are

A) Cortana was taken by the Didact. She is in his armor, and they are both currently alive.

B) She was turned into a human by the Composer. They said they could convert organic into AIs, and then back to organic later. If that's true, they could convert Cortana into a biological form. She also mentions at the beginning of the story that she was made from living organic material, thus already being organic once before. That fact that she briefly mentions this fact, only to never speak of it again, makes it seem a lot like foreshadowing to me.

She'll be back, and John will be there to save her.

  • 11.06.2012 8:06 PM PDT

Signatures are for little kids.

Cortana went to AI heaven.

Haven't finished the game yet, but I hope she's dead for good at the end.

[Edited on 11.06.2012 8:07 PM PST]

  • 11.06.2012 8:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: Cortland_Brewer
She was still "alive" when she teleported John away from the nuke blast. My two theories are

A) Cortana was taken by the Didact. She is in his armor, and they are both currently alive.

B) She was turned into a human by the Composer. They said they could convert organic into AIs, and then back to organic later. If that's true, they could convert Cortana into a biological form. She also mentions at the beginning of the story that she was made from living organic material, thus already being organic once before. That fact that she briefly mentions this fact, only to never speak of it again, makes it seem a lot like foreshadowing to me.

She'll be back, and John will be there to save her.

I love the way you think. I assume you are aware and only mention it because of the potential forshadowing, but when she said she was made of organic material, it's because she is based on Halsey's brain. I would love to see her in organic form. Perhaps she'll be missing all of Halo 5 then John and Cortana get reuinited in Halo 6, both as organic humans. That would be a perfect ending to the Master Chief/Cortana story ark.

Godshatter, WHAT THE -blam!- DID YOU JUST -blam!- SAY ABOUT CORTANA, YOU LITTLE -BLAM!-? I'll have you know she's trained in computer warfare.

[Edited on 11.06.2012 8:17 PM PST]

  • 11.06.2012 8:14 PM PDT

You guys should check this thread on the Halo Waypoint Forums !
It contains a crazy amount of stuff about Cortana and how she can still be alive .

https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst137119_Cortana-s-Ro le-in-Halo-4--In-Depth---Spoilers.aspx

[Edited on 12.18.2012 9:02 PM PST]

  • 12.18.2012 8:57 PM PDT
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I aim to please.

The didact said that Cortana was an evolved ancilla.

I think that seals the deal.

  • 12.18.2012 8:59 PM PDT

The bible is the best book Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM A PROUD CHRISTIAN. HALO IS AWESOME BUT GOD IS MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!
Did you knew that JESUSdied for you?

When?
Posted by: XRevelationX
The didact said that Cortana was an evolved ancilla.

I think that seals the deal.

  • 12.18.2012 9:03 PM PDT

The bible is the best book Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM A PROUD CHRISTIAN. HALO IS AWESOME BUT GOD IS MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!
Did you knew that JESUSdied for you?


Posted by: DjDan994
You guys should check this thread on the Halo Waypoint Forums !
It contains a crazy amount of stuff about Cortana and how she can still be alive .

https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst137119_Cortana-s-Ro le-in-Halo-4--In-Depth---Spoilers.aspx


link is dead.

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Posted by: BestSpartan117
When?
Posted by: XRevelationX
The didact said that Cortana was an evolved ancilla.

I think that seals the deal.


Here is a list of quotes

I can't remember the specific mission, it was the one where the librarian talks to chief I think.

An ancilla is a forerunner AI. An evolved one means it surpasses the capabilities of even forerunner AI's. So Cortana is pretty confirmed to be back in the upcoming games.

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Can not be touched.


Posted by: Godshatter
Cortana went to AI heaven.

Haven't finished the game yet, but I hope she's dead for good at the end.

I hope that she's gone for good, too. Having her come back in some way would be a very predictable cop out. If 343 decided to kill off such an iconic character, they need to have the balls to stick with it.

[Edited on 12.18.2012 9:11 PM PST]

  • 12.18.2012 9:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: Godshatter
Cortana went to AI heaven.

Haven't finished the game yet, but I hope she's dead for good at the end.

I hope that she's gone for good, too. Having her come back in some way would be a very predictable cop out. If 343 decided to kill off such an iconic character, they need to have the balls to stick with it.


They DIDN'T kill off Cortana. There are too many things that hint at her survival.

  • 12.18.2012 9:11 PM PDT

Please stop complaining about the 'death of a loved one' it's my job. They probably deserved it anyways. Here's a warning, if you keep making pentagrams out of the neighbors livestock I will personally come to your house and kill everyone you love. Now leave me alone, I got to get back to work.
~M.D~

She can't die, she's too hawt.

  • 12.18.2012 9:52 PM PDT

She's dead forever.

  • 12.18.2012 9:54 PM PDT

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=39477223

Or, you could just read the caption/tidbit for the epilogue.

  • 12.18.2012 9:55 PM PDT

Signatures are for little kids.

They should make another game where you play as Cortana trying to get out of the network and become a real girl.

You could have her burn her feet off, get in a fight with schoolmates, get swallowed by a whale or forced to dance at a puppet show put on by that awful Fireeater dude.. Possibilities are endless.

  • 12.18.2012 9:56 PM PDT

Only the unloved and unnatural hate.

I have a skype! Feel free to add me if you took the time to look in here xD cody.dwight.morgan

I love that everyone here seems so unable to let her death go, it speaks volumes about how good a character she was.

  • 12.18.2012 10:07 PM PDT

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