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Subject: Should private groups be able to customize their profanity filter?

<(-_-)> Teh mokey is not amused

There is actually nothing really wrong with curse words themselves. If I say crap it isn't censored, so why should s-blam!- be?

  • 11.09.2012 3:52 AM PDT

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Posted by: dazarobbo

There is this really old school thought process where we need to "protect" children from reality. You know, sex, violence, naughty words and the such. I don't agree with it at all. I just find it odd that people would be playing a M rated game, coming to a website where there are clear visuals images of M rated content, but cannot see a naughty word. Just odd to me.

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  • 11.09.2012 4:18 AM PDT
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Hey, guys, what's going on in this thread?
Someone tell Kivell that he is a lie.


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I seem to agree mostly with Skil Phil on this one. I just dont see the point in it.

  • 11.09.2012 5:59 AM PDT

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Most of the time people will just by pass the filter in groups anyways, but it could be a cool feature.

  • 11.09.2012 6:12 AM PDT
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I'd say yes, but unfortunately I don't think that'd ever happen.

  • 11.09.2012 6:14 AM PDT


Posted by: Kivell
I seem to agree mostly with Skil Phil on this one. I just dont see the point in it.


Is there a problem with your eyesight? I want to say something sarcastic, but I don't want to feel like a dick afterwards.

If you can't see the "point" in letting private groups control their profanity filter, which would be letting private groups control their profanity filter, then you must be blind.

  • 11.09.2012 6:15 AM PDT

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Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: SkilPhil
I think for most groups this could work, but there's a small handful where this would be a terrible idea (probably more).
Its like giving kids a sword to play with, people are going to get hurt, so the best thing to do is just not give anyone a sword.
Who is getting hurt?

People who are offended by certain words that are censored on this site.

There could be members on this site that have been in a group for ages that may be forced to leave because people are throwing words around that they are sensitive to - although I imagine it would be very rare - it doesn't seem worth it.

  • 11.09.2012 6:16 AM PDT
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Posted by: Der Todesengel
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Posted by: dmg04
No.

Learn to insult people with sarcasm and intelligence.

  • 11.09.2012 6:27 AM PDT


Posted by: SkilPhil
Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: SkilPhil
I think for most groups this could work, but there's a small handful where this would be a terrible idea (probably more).
Its like giving kids a sword to play with, people are going to get hurt, so the best thing to do is just not give anyone a sword.
Who is getting hurt?

People who are offended by certain words that are censored on this site.

There could be members on this site that have been in a group for ages that may be forced to leave because people are throwing words around that they are sensitive to - although I imagine it would be very rare - it doesn't seem worth it.


And why shouldn't that be for the group to decide?

Private group moderators can already choose whether or not to ban people for bypassing the filter, why shouldn't this be extended to the filter itself?

  • 11.09.2012 6:34 AM PDT

Posted by: SkilPhil
People who are offended by certain words that are censored on this site.

There could be members on this site that have been in a group for ages that may be forced to leave because people are throwing words around that they are sensitive to - although I imagine it would be very rare - it doesn't seem worth it.
You're right. In fact that situation would be so rare, especially when the group's moderators did nothing about it, that it's practically not an issue (much like a lot of the "it would be abused" arguments).

  • 11.09.2012 6:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: SubtleSpartan
There is actually nothing really wrong with curse words themselves. If I say crap it isn't censored, so why should s-blam!- be?
There's the idea that specific words carry a larger amount of weight to them depending from person to person. Someone could associate a specific curse word with their father beating them, or what their attacker called them when they were abused. There could be a word that they were called in school that really hurt them due to the abuse from their classmates.


It's all about the idea that we don't know everyone's story, so it's best for Bungie to just play it safe and keep it ALL clean.

Also, Harrison's mum. What if she found all these curse words on Harrison's screen while Harrison was on Bungie dot net? Yea, he's in a private group, but Harrison's mother doesn't care. All she knows is that this company, Bungie, is allowing all these words to be used in the horribly malicious fashion they have be sculpted to be used.

No, for now, Bungie wants to play it safe. They know that, while Halo is rated M, it probably should have been rated T in a way. They know the audience they were attracting was going to be a bit younger than the ESRB rating really asked for, and they wanted to make things simple, so they took the filter from Microsoft, and put it over their entire website. Lifting (loll) it from one region or another would pose too much a risk for whatever minor rewards it might bring, so I believe it really is best they keep things consistent throughout the site.

  • 11.09.2012 6:39 AM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
Hey, guys, what's going on in this thread?
Someone tell Kivell that he is a lie.


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Posted by: coolmike699

Posted by: Kivell
I seem to agree mostly with Skil Phil on this one. I just dont see the point in it.


Is there a problem with your eyesight? I want to say something sarcastic, but I don't want to feel like a dick afterwards.

If you can't see the "point" in letting private groups control their profanity filter, which would be letting private groups control their profanity filter, then you must be blind.


Read it this way "cool" mike. Some groups are mature enough to handle it, some aren't. Therefore I see no point in letting groups control whether or not to have it. If you think being able to type whatever you want in a private group forum would benefit this site, then you aren't nearly as intelligent as I would have thought. Just use the bypass filter, it's not that hard.

  • 11.09.2012 6:46 AM PDT

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And Cobravert is absolutely correct.

Posted by: Der Todesengel
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From what I have already seen, words get unnecessarily posted in groups already. The majority of the time they were posted for mere shock factor and had no reason to be posted. It was just to circumvent the rule because they knew they could and not suffer any repercussions.

Do I agree that all words shuffled by the -blam!- filter are offensive?
No.

Do I think that the filter needs to be altered?
Again, no.
We should all be grown up enough to know how to say things that are filtered without setting it off and without being caustic to other people. Heck, you can do that easily enough with no inflammatory/derogatory words at all.

It seems that more of the issue here is the impression that people can not 'express' themselves. If you have to use words that you would not use in normal conversation in public, then there is likely no reason to use them here (any forum) either.

  • 11.09.2012 6:56 AM PDT

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Replace You're with your in the profanity filter. People will go nuts.

  • 11.09.2012 7:01 AM PDT


Posted by: Kivell

Posted by: coolmike699

Posted by: Kivell
I seem to agree mostly with Skil Phil on this one. I just dont see the point in it.


Is there a problem with your eyesight? I want to say something sarcastic, but I don't want to feel like a dick afterwards.

If you can't see the "point" in letting private groups control their profanity filter, which would be letting private groups control their profanity filter, then you must be blind.


Read it this way "cool" mike. Some groups are mature enough to handle it, some aren't. Therefore I see no point in letting groups control whether or not to have it. If you think being able to type whatever you want in a private group forum would benefit this site, then you aren't nearly as intelligent as I would have thought. Just use the bypass filter, it's not that hard.


So being able to use profanity in private groups would not benefit the site, but we can already do this by easily bypassing the filter (as you mentioned). So if a group I'm in is mature enough to allow us to bypass the filter, they might not be mature enough to just control the filter themselves?

"Some groups are mature enough to handle it, some aren't. Therefore I see no point in letting groups control whether or not to have it."

That's exactly why we should let groups control it. You're saying that some groups can handle something and some can't, so we just shouldn't do it?

So you're questioning my intelligence by contradicting yourself twice?

  • 11.09.2012 7:09 AM PDT
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Hey, guys, what's going on in this thread?
Someone tell Kivell that he is a lie.


Get WorkPlaced!


Posted by: coolmike699

That's exactly why we should let groups control it. You're saying that some groups can handle something and some can't, so we just shouldn't do it?


Ok, you dont seem to be getting it. Let me ask you this as simply as I can.

Why?

What would this accomplish?

How would this benefit anything?

This is just stupid to me and maybe Im just too old or mature to understand your point of view. But what I dont understand is, with eveything going on in the world, you have your panties in a bunch over wanting to have the right to type filth in an online forum.

Also, good points Cobra.

  • 11.09.2012 7:33 AM PDT
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Posted by: catman6
I like the idea.

  • 11.09.2012 8:10 AM PDT

δόξει τις ἀμαθεῖ σοφὰ λέγων οὐκ εὖ φρονεῖν.

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Listen, you silly twats, you just need to know how to swear properly. Most of you, I'm sure, do not have the bollocks to do so-tossers that you are-but were you to there would be fewer wankers cluttering up this thread.

And so on.

  • 11.09.2012 10:19 AM PDT

I guess so, it would get bypassed regardless.

  • 11.09.2012 10:23 AM PDT
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Posted by: Der Todesengel
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Pretty much what Kivell said.

What does it accomplish?

A bunch of kids cursing in private groups and hoping their parents don't catch them because they can't swear in real life.

Right on bro

  • 11.09.2012 10:36 AM PDT

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I think you should have the choice to turn it off entirely.

  • 11.09.2012 11:08 AM PDT

The Internet is an empowerment tool that's agnostic; it doesn't care about race, gender, or age.

It doesn't really accomplish anything. Also, it'd be cool if we could post images in private groups, but people would abuse it.

  • 11.09.2012 11:13 AM PDT

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I have a feeling that we'll be seeing this feature on Bungie.next. I think the Web team has realized that filters in private groups are quite pointless, and that it should be up to the sole discretion of the administrator(s).

  • 11.09.2012 11:22 AM PDT

δόξει τις ἀμαθεῖ σοφὰ λέγων οὐκ εὖ φρονεῖν.

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Posted by: Hi GunKoMa
It doesn't really accomplish anything. Also, it'd be cool if we could post images in private groups, but people would abuse it.


It would be cool if Bungie had a forum for its fan to discuss stuff. But, some people might abuse it, so I suppose we shouldn't.

  • 11.09.2012 12:04 PM PDT

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It's a good idea, but I'd rather have the same censored words but choose which censor word you want (Something other than -blam!-)

  • 11.09.2012 1:19 PM PDT