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Subject: Halo vs Star Wars, including halo 4

Might as well call this thread "Reasons why Star Wars would kick Halo's ass as OP refutes it."

  • 11.08.2012 5:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: Helljumper427

Posted by: moochkin
he did just give you a breakdown of the energy a star destroyer can put out and how much it takes to destroy a covenant ship. do you have the energy a projector puts out?

One of the biggest problems with SW is that like said when you conpare it to other things the differences are stupid in that they shouldnt be able to generate that much energy but in its own universe its in proportion.

However i think starwars would win through sheer numbers over the UNSC.

yeah. the UNSC.

The Empire alone could crush the Covenant with ease.

  • 11.08.2012 5:26 PM PDT


Posted by: RockdaleRooster
Suncrusher. Invincible and can make a sun go supernova and blow up a system then survive it. Just as invincible if not more so than a precursor ship.


also, in addition to that, the precusor's empire, maybe the forerunner's much larger.

  • 11.08.2012 5:27 PM PDT



According to the manual, the two prow turbolasers of the 800 meter CIS Munificent-class star frigate are capable of blast-melting a 1000km Ice Moon in a single shot, which would place the power of each cannon somewhere along the lines of 30 petatons, or thirty billion megatons. To put this into perspective, this figure is equal to:

1) 468,750,000 Federation (Star Trek) Photon Torpedoes.
2) The combined payload of 1,875,000 Federation Galaxy-class vessels.
3) The combined firepower of at least 30,000 Covenant Cruisers.
4) Two trillion Hiroshima scale atomic weapons.
If you find that impressive, here are just a few other canon statistics that you may enjoy reading:

1) A modern nuclear reactor sized Hypermatter chamber is capable of generating more power than our Sun has in the last eight thousand years.

2) The lone shield generator in an Acclamator Troop Transport vessel generates a peak dissipation rate of seventy trillion gigawatts. To put this into perspective, their shield generator generates over fifty billion times the amount of energy as a Covenant (Halo) shield generator of similar scale, or 1.5 trillion times the amount of power generated by the shields of a Federation Galaxy-class vessel (the Enterprise of Star Trek).

3) The Executor-class Super Star Destroyer generates a shield output measured at 380 trillion terawatts per second, an amount equivalent to the total power of a medium star. To once again put this into perspective, their shield generates thirty-one billion times the energy as the Covenant space station Unyielding Hierophant, which measured in at more than twice the size of the Super Star Destroyer.

4) The reactor output of an Imperial Star Destroyer is equal to a small star, annihilating over 40,000 tons of Hypermatter per second at near 100% efficiency.

5) Boba Fett's Slave-I reactor (which is about the size of a Car engine) can generate enough power in one second to provide modern day Earth with enough energy for the next million years.

6) If you attached the two solar panels of a TIE fighter in orbit of either side of the planet along the equator, it could theoretically power the Earth indefinitely.

7) The Hyperdrive engine allows for vessels to cross the 120,000 light year span of the galaxy in a few hours, placing their speeds at around ten million times the speed of light in the least. Technically Hyperspace is infinite, so it is possible for some vessels with powerful hyperdrive engines to instantaneously teleport throughout the Galaxy.

8) Jango Fett's on board missiles (each one about the size of a modern microphone) have an in built and rather sophisticated AI so that the missile can continue to track a target even through dense debris fields or obstacle courses, it can even reacquire the target after losing visual data for up to several kilometers. Aside from the AI, these lone missiles each had a yield of 190 megatons, with a drill tip that allowed it to bury into targets before detonating.

9) He also carried football sized seismic charges, which possessed an approximate yield of 12 gigatons and could destroy targets up to 30 km from the blast zone.

  • 11.08.2012 5:28 PM PDT
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Darth Nihilus solo's everybody, including Star Wars as well. Then he consumes himself.

/the end.


Also, Star Wars can utilize time travel as well. There are instances with hyperspace where one can be shot back in time, and time travel devices if I remember correctly. So they could send back an agent and kill the Forerunners before they created their civilization.

But Nihilus still solo's everyone.

[Edited on 11.08.2012 5:32 PM PST]

  • 11.08.2012 5:29 PM PDT


Posted by: RockdaleRooster


According to the manual, the two prow turbolasers of the 800 meter CIS Munificent-class star frigate are capable of blast-melting a 1000km Ice Moon in a single shot, which would place the power of each cannon somewhere along the lines of 30 petatons, or thirty billion megatons. To put this into perspective, this figure is equal to:

1) 468,750,000 Federation (Star Trek) Photon Torpedoes.
2) The combined payload of 1,875,000 Federation Galaxy-class vessels.
3) The combined firepower of at least 30,000 Covenant Cruisers.
4) Two trillion Hiroshima scale atomic weapons.
If you find that impressive, here are just a few other canon statistics that you may enjoy reading:

1) A modern nuclear reactor sized Hypermatter chamber is capable of generating more power than our Sun has in the last eight thousand years.

2) The lone shield generator in an Acclamator Troop Transport vessel generates a peak dissipation rate of seventy trillion gigawatts. To put this into perspective, their shield generator generates over fifty billion times the amount of energy as a Covenant (Halo) shield generator of similar scale, or 1.5 trillion times the amount of power generated by the shields of a Federation Galaxy-class vessel (the Enterprise of Star Trek).

3) The Executor-class Super Star Destroyer generates a shield output measured at 380 trillion terawatts per second, an amount equivalent to the total power of a medium star. To once again put this into perspective, their shield generates thirty-one billion times the energy as the Covenant space station Unyielding Hierophant, which measured in at more than twice the size of the Super Star Destroyer.

4) The reactor output of an Imperial Star Destroyer is equal to a small star, annihilating over 40,000 tons of Hypermatter per second at near 100% efficiency.

5) Boba Fett's Slave-I reactor (which is about the size of a Car engine) can generate enough power in one second to provide modern day Earth with enough energy for the next million years.

6) If you attached the two solar panels of a TIE fighter in orbit of either side of the planet along the equator, it could theoretically power the Earth indefinitely.

7) The Hyperdrive engine allows for vessels to cross the 120,000 light year span of the galaxy in a few hours, placing their speeds at around ten million times the speed of light in the least. Technically Hyperspace is infinite, so it is possible for some vessels with powerful hyperdrive engines to instantaneously teleport throughout the Galaxy.

8) Jango Fett's on board missiles (each one about the size of a modern microphone) have an in built and rather sophisticated AI so that the missile can continue to track a target even through dense debris fields or obstacle courses, it can even reacquire the target after losing visual data for up to several kilometers. Aside from the AI, these lone missiles each had a yield of 190 megatons, with a drill tip that allowed it to bury into targets before detonating.

9) He also carried football sized seismic charges, which possessed an approximate yield of 12 gigatons and could destroy targets up to 30 km from the blast zone.


that seems like complete overkill, andthe forerunners is deefinatley something like that.

  • 11.08.2012 5:31 PM PDT

So your argument is: "If they have it the Forerunners must too because my opinion can't possibly be wrong."

  • 11.08.2012 5:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: Helljumper427

Posted by: RockdaleRooster


According to the manual, the two prow turbolasers of the 800 meter CIS Munificent-class star frigate are capable of blast-melting a 1000km Ice Moon in a single shot, which would place the power of each cannon somewhere along the lines of 30 petatons, or thirty billion megatons. To put this into perspective, this figure is equal to:

1) 468,750,000 Federation (Star Trek) Photon Torpedoes.
2) The combined payload of 1,875,000 Federation Galaxy-class vessels.
3) The combined firepower of at least 30,000 Covenant Cruisers.
4) Two trillion Hiroshima scale atomic weapons.
If you find that impressive, here are just a few other canon statistics that you may enjoy reading:

1) A modern nuclear reactor sized Hypermatter chamber is capable of generating more power than our Sun has in the last eight thousand years.

2) The lone shield generator in an Acclamator Troop Transport vessel generates a peak dissipation rate of seventy trillion gigawatts. To put this into perspective, their shield generator generates over fifty billion times the amount of energy as a Covenant (Halo) shield generator of similar scale, or 1.5 trillion times the amount of power generated by the shields of a Federation Galaxy-class vessel (the Enterprise of Star Trek).

3) The Executor-class Super Star Destroyer generates a shield output measured at 380 trillion terawatts per second, an amount equivalent to the total power of a medium star. To once again put this into perspective, their shield generates thirty-one billion times the energy as the Covenant space station Unyielding Hierophant, which measured in at more than twice the size of the Super Star Destroyer.

4) The reactor output of an Imperial Star Destroyer is equal to a small star, annihilating over 40,000 tons of Hypermatter per second at near 100% efficiency.

5) Boba Fett's Slave-I reactor (which is about the size of a Car engine) can generate enough power in one second to provide modern day Earth with enough energy for the next million years.

6) If you attached the two solar panels of a TIE fighter in orbit of either side of the planet along the equator, it could theoretically power the Earth indefinitely.

7) The Hyperdrive engine allows for vessels to cross the 120,000 light year span of the galaxy in a few hours, placing their speeds at around ten million times the speed of light in the least. Technically Hyperspace is infinite, so it is possible for some vessels with powerful hyperdrive engines to instantaneously teleport throughout the Galaxy.

8) Jango Fett's on board missiles (each one about the size of a modern microphone) have an in built and rather sophisticated AI so that the missile can continue to track a target even through dense debris fields or obstacle courses, it can even reacquire the target after losing visual data for up to several kilometers. Aside from the AI, these lone missiles each had a yield of 190 megatons, with a drill tip that allowed it to bury into targets before detonating.

9) He also carried football sized seismic charges, which possessed an approximate yield of 12 gigatons and could destroy targets up to 30 km from the blast zone.


that seems like complete overkill, andthe forerunners is deefinatley something like that.


Star Wars has Darth Nihilus, a wound in the force. He killed an entire planet with the force, by speaking a word. Then billions of lifeforms died instantly. He rendered the planet toast.

Mind you, you can also create more wounds in the force, theoretically.

  • 11.08.2012 5:34 PM PDT


Posted by: TehWarMoose

Posted by: Helljumper427

Posted by: moochkin
he did just give you a breakdown of the energy a star destroyer can put out and how much it takes to destroy a covenant ship. do you have the energy a projector puts out?

One of the biggest problems with SW is that like said when you conpare it to other things the differences are stupid in that they shouldnt be able to generate that much energy but in its own universe its in proportion.

However i think starwars would win through sheer numbers over the UNSC.

yeah. the UNSC.

The Empire alone could crush the Covenant with ease.


the cov empire is like an ant compared with forerunners, and forerunners are like ants next to the precursors. the forrerunners alone could destroy the empire.

  • 11.08.2012 5:34 PM PDT

the Composer would turn those into soldiers for the forerunners.

  • 11.08.2012 5:35 PM PDT


Posted by: Wyzilla
Star Wars has Darth Nihilus, a wound in the force. He killed an entire planet with the force, by speaking a word. Then billions of lifeforms died instantly. He rendered the planet toast.

Mind you, you can also create more wounds in the force, theoretically.

But that requires a beyond catastrophic event to occur. ex: The Mass Shadow-Generator on Malachor.

  • 11.08.2012 5:35 PM PDT
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There is no danger that cannot be overcome by a convenient plot-twist involving The Force.

So Star Wars.

  • 11.08.2012 5:36 PM PDT


Posted by: Helljumper427
the Composer would turn those into soldiers for the forerunners.

Until it gets blown up by a turbolaser with the force of a nuke.

  • 11.08.2012 5:36 PM PDT


Posted by: RockdaleRooster

Posted by: Helljumper427
the Composer would turn those into soldiers for the forerunners.

Until it gets blown up by a turbolaser with the force of a nuke.

for one, the composer would be highly protected, and launching a nuke at the smallest forerruner ship is like tryin to destroy the Infinity with an assault rifle.

  • 11.08.2012 5:39 PM PDT

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Posted by: Helljumper427

Posted by: TehWarMoose

Posted by: Helljumper427

Posted by: moochkin
he did just give you a breakdown of the energy a star destroyer can put out and how much it takes to destroy a covenant ship. do you have the energy a projector puts out?

One of the biggest problems with SW is that like said when you conpare it to other things the differences are stupid in that they shouldnt be able to generate that much energy but in its own universe its in proportion.

However i think starwars would win through sheer numbers over the UNSC.

yeah. the UNSC.

The Empire alone could crush the Covenant with ease.


the cov empire is like an ant compared with forerunners, and forerunners are like ants next to the precursors. the forrerunners alone could destroy the empire.

I'd say that the Forerunners were at roughly the same level of technology as the Rakata (system shaping, effectively infinite resources, etc.). The Celestials are easily a match for, and most likely overcome, the Precursors.

[Edited on 11.08.2012 5:40 PM PST]

  • 11.08.2012 5:39 PM PDT

Base Delta Zero.

Two star destroyers destroyed a planets atmosphere and melted the planets crust in under an Hour. Only reason they took so long was due to double duty bombardment and lack of transferring power from the shields to their weapons. Could have done it in 15 minutes easily.

Although the Empire consists of MILLIONS of star destroyers, and the Covenant never even had over 10,000 ships at any given time. Not to mention 1 star destroyer could probably annihilate Home fleet or the High Charity fleet.

Why?

Turbolasers. Turbolasers are basically a MAC gun on steroids. It's 4 times the strength of a MAC on the UNSC ships, but here's a twist, it can fire a shot per second and they tend to be dual cannons, along with the incredible speed factor. Lastly, there are 127 Turbolasers on a standard Star destroyer which all are at least dual cannoned and sometimes even more.

So to put it into context, that's about 300 MAC shots that are 4 times as powerful coming at you at over light speed.

Shields?

Not a problem. A Star destroyers shields are more powerful than an Acclamator but unfornately we do not have a confirmed estimate to exactly how powerful their shields are, but we can use the Acclamator's stats. An Acclamator's shields have enough strength to withstand two SMAC shots at once. A SMAC is 9 times the strength of a MAC. If the third shot was even a second off, the shields would be able to withstand the blow. You need to be able to get 27 direct hits on an Acclamator with MAC cannons. But it doesn't end there. You broke the shields, great! Now you need to penetrate the hull, which could withstand another shot before getting breached.

But, that was just the Acclamator. An Acclamator has half the power output of the Star Destroyer so we can double it for the Star destroyer. Good luck getting 57 MAC shots on a moving Star Destroyer, then hitting it 9 more times to breach it!

  • 11.08.2012 5:41 PM PDT

the precusors can't be beaten easily. to tehwarmoose.

[Edited on 11.08.2012 5:45 PM PST]

  • 11.08.2012 5:41 PM PDT

I want to know why UNSC isn't firing modern day nuclear missiles at the Covenant.
We had bombs in the 1960's that could kill a covenant cruiser 130 times over.

[Edited on 11.08.2012 5:43 PM PST]

  • 11.08.2012 5:42 PM PDT

the unsc fired 4000 supermac shots, plus a full scle assault from an elite fleet, and the shields were barely hurt.sorry, i keep forgtiing to quote. to mojeda101

[Edited on 11.08.2012 5:44 PM PST]

  • 11.08.2012 5:43 PM PDT

Subject: If you saw a meteor coming toward Earth, what would you do?Posted by: juniorbandit96
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Just wondering. If the precursors have invincible ships...can they be affected by shatterpoints?

  • 11.08.2012 5:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: Helljumper427
the unsc fired 4000 supermac shots, plus a full scle assault from an elite fleet, and the shields were barely hurt.sorry, i keep forgtiing to quote. to mojeda101

Galaxy Gun.

  • 11.08.2012 5:46 PM PDT

Precursors can only be hurt by anything that breaks down the hull on an atomic level, which is exactly what Star Wars lasers do.

Still, Star Wars would get stomped horribly.

  • 11.08.2012 5:47 PM PDT



Posted by: TehWarMoose

Posted by: Helljumper427
the unsc fired 4000 supermac shots, plus a full scle assault from an elite fleet, and the shields were barely hurt.sorry, i keep forgtiing to quote. to mojeda101

Galaxy Gun.


precursors likely had ships bigger than planets, seeing how the forreuuners largest ship 100km long.

  • 11.08.2012 5:48 PM PDT
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  • 11.08.2012 5:51 PM PDT


Posted by: Helljumper427
Have you ever even heard of the Extended Universe in Star Wars? Because obviously you haven't. Star Wars has more super weapons than the Flood has Halo 4 threads. Half of them with the power to blow up a star system in a matter of seconds. The Precursor argument is so stupid because we know next to nothing about them. All we know is they left behind ruins that were indestructible. How can we assume that their ships were too? What do we know about their weapons? Nothing. For all we know their weapons could be bullets and they could use tech we have right now. Star Wars has clearly defined factions and technology levels and the inhabitants of 5 galaxies to pool from. Halo has a bunch of speculation about a race with indestructible ruins that weren't even indestructible. The Forerunners were fought to a stalemate by humans with equal tech to them. Star Wars technology is just as if not better than Forerunner therefore They could easily rout the Forerunners probably without ever leaving their galaxy.

  • 11.08.2012 5:51 PM PDT