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Subject: Halo vs Star Wars, including halo 4

Octavia is best pony.


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the unsc fired 4000 supermac shots, plus a full scle assault from an elite fleet, and the shields were barely hurt.sorry, i keep forgtiing to quote. to mojeda101

Galaxy Gun.


precursors likely had ships bigger than planets, seeing how the forreuuners largest ship 100km long.

The problem is that Halo is considerably less well documented than Star Wars, so your only evidence is what you think the Precursors had.

Besides, the Celestials are easily on the Precursor's level.

  • 11.08.2012 5:52 PM PDT


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Posted by: Helljumper427
Have you ever even heard of the Extended Universe in Star Wars? Because obviously you haven't. Star Wars has more super weapons than the Flood has Halo 4 threads. Half of them with the power to blow up a star system in a matter of seconds. The Precursor argument is so stupid because we know next to nothing about them. All we know is they left behind ruins that were indestructible. How can we assume that their ships were too? What do we know about their weapons? Nothing. For all we know their weapons could be bullets and they could use tech we have right now. Star Wars has clearly defined factions and technology levels and the inhabitants of 5 galaxies to pool from. Halo has a bunch of speculation about a race with indestructible ruins that weren't even indestructible. The Forerunners were fought to a stalemate by humans with equal tech to them. Star Wars technology is just as if not better than Forerunner therefore They could easily rout the Forerunners probably without ever leaving their galaxy.

  • 11.08.2012 5:53 PM PDT
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  • 11.08.2012 5:55 PM PDT


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Posted by: Helljumper427
Have you ever even heard of the Extended Universe in Star Wars? Because obviously you haven't. Star Wars has more super weapons than the Flood has Halo 4 threads. Half of them with the power to blow up a star system in a matter of seconds. The Precursor argument is so stupid because we know next to nothing about them. All we know is they left behind ruins that were indestructible. How can we assume that their ships were too? What do we know about their weapons? Nothing. For all we know their weapons could be bullets and they could use tech we have right now. Star Wars has clearly defined factions and technology levels and the inhabitants of 5 galaxies to pool from. Halo has a bunch of speculation about a race with indestructible ruins that weren't even indestructible. The Forerunners were fought to a stalemate by humans with equal tech to them. Star Wars technology is just as if not better than Forerunner therefore They could easily rout the Forerunners probably without ever leaving their galaxy.


if precursor ruins are indestructible, their ships are too.
and the forerrunners defeated the humans. and even if you destroy the forerruner's empire in realspace, ther's still their slipspace empire as well.

  • 11.08.2012 5:56 PM PDT

Second acct: RC Zerg Rushes

Star Wars would curbstomp the Halo Universe.

  • 11.08.2012 5:57 PM PDT

and of course, the halo array.

  • 11.08.2012 5:59 PM PDT


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Have you ever even heard of the Extended Universe in Star Wars? Because obviously you haven't. Star Wars has more super weapons than the Flood has Halo 4 threads. Half of them with the power to blow up a star system in a matter of seconds. The Precursor argument is so stupid because we know next to nothing about them. All we know is they left behind ruins that were indestructible. How can we assume that their ships were too? What do we know about their weapons? Nothing. For all we know their weapons could be bullets and they could use tech we have right now. Star Wars has clearly defined factions and technology levels and the inhabitants of 5 galaxies to pool from. Halo has a bunch of speculation about a race with indestructible ruins that weren't even indestructible. The Forerunners were fought to a stalemate by humans with equal tech to them. Star Wars technology is just as if not better than Forerunner therefore They could easily rout the Forerunners probably without ever leaving their galaxy.


if precursor ruins are indestructible, their ships are too.
and the forerrunners defeated the humans. and even if you destroy the forerruner's empire in realspace, ther's still their slipspace empire as well.

Except for the fact that a planet of Precursor tech was destroyed. And I want you to show me that Precursor ships were made of the same material as their buildings. Do we make aircraft out of concrete? No. All you have is your pure fanboy fueled specualtion based on a single sentence in a novel that later contradicted itself. The humans devastated the Forerunners to the point that they could not effectively wage war. That was a single civilization. How would the Forerunners fare against the Yuuzhan Vong? Or the Rakata? Or even the ancient Sith?

  • 11.08.2012 6:02 PM PDT

Octavia is best pony.


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Posted by: Helljumper427
Have you ever even heard of the Extended Universe in Star Wars? Because obviously you haven't. Star Wars has more super weapons than the Flood has Halo 4 threads. Half of them with the power to blow up a star system in a matter of seconds. The Precursor argument is so stupid because we know next to nothing about them. All we know is they left behind ruins that were indestructible. How can we assume that their ships were too? What do we know about their weapons? Nothing. For all we know their weapons could be bullets and they could use tech we have right now. Star Wars has clearly defined factions and technology levels and the inhabitants of 5 galaxies to pool from. Halo has a bunch of speculation about a race with indestructible ruins that weren't even indestructible. The Forerunners were fought to a stalemate by humans with equal tech to them. Star Wars technology is just as if not better than Forerunner therefore They could easily rout the Forerunners probably without ever leaving their galaxy.


if precursor ruins are indestructible, their ships are too.
and the forerrunners defeated the humans. and even if you destroy the forerruner's empire in realspace, ther's still their slipspace empire as well.

Except for the fact that a planet of Precursor tech was destroyed. And I want you to show me that Precursor ships were made of the same material as their buildings. Do we make aircraft out of concrete? No. All you have is your pure fanboy fueled specualtion based on a single sentence in a novel that later contradicted itself. The humans devastated the Forerunners to the point that they could not effectively wage war. That was a single civilization. How would the Forerunners fare against the Yuuzhan Vong? Or the Rakata? Or even the ancient Sith?

Well, the'd probably do relatively well against the Yuuzhan Vong (i.e. Halo Arrays). They'd have problems with the Rakata, who are pretty near them in terms of technological advancement. The Celestials would crush the Forerunners utterly.

  • 11.08.2012 6:04 PM PDT


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Posted by: Helljumper427
Have you ever even heard of the Extended Universe in Star Wars? Because obviously you haven't. Star Wars has more super weapons than the Flood has Halo 4 threads. Half of them with the power to blow up a star system in a matter of seconds. The Precursor argument is so stupid because we know next to nothing about them. All we know is they left behind ruins that were indestructible. How can we assume that their ships were too? What do we know about their weapons? Nothing. For all we know their weapons could be bullets and they could use tech we have right now. Star Wars has clearly defined factions and technology levels and the inhabitants of 5 galaxies to pool from. Halo has a bunch of speculation about a race with indestructible ruins that weren't even indestructible. The Forerunners were fought to a stalemate by humans with equal tech to them. Star Wars technology is just as if not better than Forerunner therefore They could easily rout the Forerunners probably without ever leaving their galaxy.


if precursor ruins are indestructible, their ships are too.
and the forerrunners defeated the humans. and even if you destroy the forerruner's empire in realspace, ther's still their slipspace empire as well.

Except for the fact that a planet of Precursor tech was destroyed. And I want you to show me that Precursor ships were made of the same material as their buildings. Do we make aircraft out of concrete? No. All you have is your pure fanboy fueled specualtion based on a single sentence in a novel that later contradicted itself. The humans devastated the Forerunners to the point that they could not effectively wage war. That was a single civilization. How would the Forerunners fare against the Yuuzhan Vong? Or the Rakata? Or even the ancient Sith?

Well, the'd probably do relatively well against the Yuuzhan Vong (i.e. Halo Arrays). They'd have problems with the Rakata, who are pretty near them in terms of technological advancement. The Celestials would crush the Forerunners utterly.

Except that the Vong decimated the Republic for the most part of the war.

  • 11.08.2012 6:06 PM PDT

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Well, the'd probably do relatively well against the Yuuzhan Vong (i.e. Halo Arrays). They'd have problems with the Rakata, who are pretty near them in terms of technological advancement. The Celestials would crush the Forerunners utterly.

Except that the Vong decimated the Republic for the most part of the war.

True. The only thing is that the Forerunner weaponry does seem ideally suited for dealing with their organic technology. (i.e. Halo Array).

  • 11.08.2012 6:07 PM PDT


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Well, the'd probably do relatively well against the Yuuzhan Vong (i.e. Halo Arrays). They'd have problems with the Rakata, who are pretty near them in terms of technological advancement. The Celestials would crush the Forerunners utterly.

Except that the Vong decimated the Republic for the most part of the war.

True. The only thing is that the Forerunner weaponry does seem ideally suited for dealing with their organic technology. (i.e. Halo Array).

But in firing the Halo array the Forerunners kill themselves. And what stops Star Wars from using the galaxy gun/centerpoint station/ every other superweapon to destroy the Halo array and Ark before deploying the Vong.

  • 11.08.2012 6:09 PM PDT

THE DALEK MASTER RACE !

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  • 11.08.2012 6:09 PM PDT


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Posted by: Helljumper427
Have you ever even heard of the Extended Universe in Star Wars? Because obviously you haven't. Star Wars has more super weapons than the Flood has Halo 4 threads. Half of them with the power to blow up a star system in a matter of seconds. The Precursor argument is so stupid because we know next to nothing about them. All we know is they left behind ruins that were indestructible. How can we assume that their ships were too? What do we know about their weapons? Nothing. For all we know their weapons could be bullets and they could use tech we have right now. Star Wars has clearly defined factions and technology levels and the inhabitants of 5 galaxies to pool from. Halo has a bunch of speculation about a race with indestructible ruins that weren't even indestructible. The Forerunners were fought to a stalemate by humans with equal tech to them. Star Wars technology is just as if not better than Forerunner therefore They could easily rout the Forerunners probably without ever leaving their galaxy.


if precursor ruins are indestructible, their ships are too.
and the forerrunners defeated the humans. and even if you destroy the forerruner's empire in realspace, ther's still their slipspace empire as well.

Except for the fact that a planet of Precursor tech was destroyed. And I want you to show me that Precursor ships were made of the same material as their buildings. Do we make aircraft out of concrete? No. All you have is your pure fanboy fueled specualtion based on a single sentence in a novel that later contradicted itself. The humans devastated the Forerunners to the point that they could not effectively wage war. That was a single civilization. How would the Forerunners fare against the Yuuzhan Vong? Or the Rakata? Or even the ancient Sith?


the flood is what defeated the forerruners, not the humans, and that was only becaause the military decisions were made by the council, a bunch of first-form idiots. had they been made by the Didact, the flood wouldn't have escaped the first system. as for the precursors, if their buildings were indestructible, then their ships. if the stuff that they made those buildings out of is estentially their form of concrete, their ship material has to be much stronger. plus the shields. the buildings were unshielded.

  • 11.08.2012 6:09 PM PDT

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  • 11.08.2012 6:10 PM PDT
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Have you ever even heard of the Extended Universe in Star Wars? Because obviously you haven't. Star Wars has more super weapons than the Flood has Halo 4 threads. Half of them with the power to blow up a star system in a matter of seconds. The Precursor argument is so stupid because we know next to nothing about them. All we know is they left behind ruins that were indestructible. How can we assume that their ships were too? What do we know about their weapons? Nothing. For all we know their weapons could be bullets and they could use tech we have right now. Star Wars has clearly defined factions and technology levels and the inhabitants of 5 galaxies to pool from. Halo has a bunch of speculation about a race with indestructible ruins that weren't even indestructible. The Forerunners were fought to a stalemate by humans with equal tech to them. Star Wars technology is just as if not better than Forerunner therefore They could easily rout the Forerunners probably without ever leaving their galaxy.


if precursor ruins are indestructible, their ships are too.
and the forerrunners defeated the humans. and even if you destroy the forerruner's empire in realspace, ther's still their slipspace empire as well.

Except for the fact that a planet of Precursor tech was destroyed. And I want you to show me that Precursor ships were made of the same material as their buildings. Do we make aircraft out of concrete? No. All you have is your pure fanboy fueled specualtion based on a single sentence in a novel that later contradicted itself. The humans devastated the Forerunners to the point that they could not effectively wage war. That was a single civilization. How would the Forerunners fare against the Yuuzhan Vong? Or the Rakata? Or even the ancient Sith?

Don't forget the Mandalorian Empire, which would be at full strength in this scenario. Mandalorian Iron is a -blam!- to punch through, and you could simply coat a ship in the stuff and skip the shields and it could bulldoze the Covenant. Plus, as for the Halo Arrays, they just have to enter Hyperspace, which is most likely another dimension, and complete dodge the pulse.

Not to mention that every catastrophic attack where there's a force sensitive on the planet runs the risk of creating a wound in the force, and then you have two Nihilus-scale entities that are not even technically alive out for your blood.

Darth Nihilus was a single entity who wiped out an entire planet with his will. No technology, no ship, just the space magic of the force. Shields wouldn't do anything to protect you.

And the Celestials could take on the Precrusors most likely. Nobody knows much about the Celestials, less than then the Precursors even. All we know is that they operated on pure space magic and likely are the reason behind the good guys always winning due to their influence in the force.

Oh, and Star Wars has Force Demons, who as far as we know, are full-blown immortal and can't be killed, and will just dick around with your Empire. The Halo Array couldn't do -blam!- to them most likely. They're not made of matter.

  • 11.08.2012 6:12 PM PDT


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They could beat everything else mentioned in this thread.

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  • 11.08.2012 6:13 PM PDT

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Halo Rings and the flood would win it for the Halo universe. Without them Starwars wins hands down. They have sheer numbers, plus far more advanced spacecraft. Although, the Didact would probably destroy a jedi one on one easy.

  • 11.08.2012 6:15 PM PDT
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Well, the'd probably do relatively well against the Yuuzhan Vong (i.e. Halo Arrays). They'd have problems with the Rakata, who are pretty near them in terms of technological advancement. The Celestials would crush the Forerunners utterly.

Except that the Vong decimated the Republic for the most part of the war.

True. The only thing is that the Forerunner weaponry does seem ideally suited for dealing with their organic technology. (i.e. Halo Array).

But in firing the Halo array the Forerunners kill themselves. And what stops Star Wars from using the galaxy gun/centerpoint station/ every other superweapon to destroy the Halo array and Ark before deploying the Vong.

And the minute they jump to hyperspace, they dodge the bullet. Gotta love them alternate dimensions.

Also, Daleks would get murdered by Star Wars. Tennat-era proved they can get destroyed by energy weapons, which Star Wars produces en masse. The only thing the Daleks have going is their reality-destroying uber-weapons.

But then you've got Time Lords who'll just -blam!- you up.

I tend to arrange it in a pecking order.

Halo < Star Trek < Star Wars < Warhammer < Doctor Who

Excluding the Q Continuum in Star Trek of course.

  • 11.08.2012 6:16 PM PDT


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Have you ever even heard of the Extended Universe in Star Wars? Because obviously you haven't. Star Wars has more super weapons than the Flood has Halo 4 threads. Half of them with the power to blow up a star system in a matter of seconds. The Precursor argument is so stupid because we know next to nothing about them. All we know is they left behind ruins that were indestructible. How can we assume that their ships were too? What do we know about their weapons? Nothing. For all we know their weapons could be bullets and they could use tech we have right now. Star Wars has clearly defined factions and technology levels and the inhabitants of 5 galaxies to pool from. Halo has a bunch of speculation about a race with indestructible ruins that weren't even indestructible. The Forerunners were fought to a stalemate by humans with equal tech to them. Star Wars technology is just as if not better than Forerunner therefore They could easily rout the Forerunners probably without ever leaving their galaxy.


if precursor ruins are indestructible, their ships are too.
and the forerrunners defeated the humans. and even if you destroy the forerruner's empire in realspace, ther's still their slipspace empire as well.

Except for the fact that a planet of Precursor tech was destroyed. And I want you to show me that Precursor ships were made of the same material as their buildings. Do we make aircraft out of concrete? No. All you have is your pure fanboy fueled specualtion based on a single sentence in a novel that later contradicted itself. The humans devastated the Forerunners to the point that they could not effectively wage war. That was a single civilization. How would the Forerunners fare against the Yuuzhan Vong? Or the Rakata? Or even the ancient Sith?


the flood is what defeated the forerruners, not the humans, and that was only becaause the military decisions were made by the council, a bunch of first-form idiots. had they been made by the Didact, the flood wouldn't have escaped the first system. as for the precursors, if their buildings were indestructible, then their ships. if the stuff that they made those buildings out of is estentially their form of concrete, their ship material has to be much stronger. plus the shields. the buildings were unshielded.

The humans weakened the Forerunners to the point that they couldn't fight the Flood. Didact said it and the Librarian said it. If humanity could do that they what's stoppint the humans of Star Wars from rendering the Forerunners combat ineffective against the other 4 galaxies worth of aliens Star Wars has to throw at them.

Fanboy fueled speculation incoming Ima show you how it's done.

The Celestials are the Gods of Star Wars. Therefore as soon as the Precursors get involved the Celestials go "lolnope" and cut off the neural pathways that make their technology "invincible" then kill off the Precursors. They then proceed to activate the Halo array in the Halo galaxy killing off all living life and destroying all sentient life in the Halo universe. They then use the centerpoint station to destroy all the Halo's and the Ark. They then deploy armies of perfect droids to eliminate whatever Flood is left and the Star Wars universe doesn't even know a war occured.

/Fanboy fueled speculation.

  • 11.08.2012 6:16 PM PDT

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without the forerunners star wars will always win.

  • 11.08.2012 6:17 PM PDT
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Hey, uh, if you like vs threads, then check out this little group right here, if you have the time. It's pretty fun, just hop right in.

But then Galactus showed up and solo'd both 'verses.

But seriously, isn't that one OP Sith guy immortal?

  • 11.08.2012 6:17 PM PDT
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But then Galactus showed up and solo'd both 'verses.

But seriously, isn't that one OP Sith guy immortal?

Technically. The only thing that could defeat Nihilus (who's still alive, he locked his soul in his armor) was another void in the force, Surik. Halo doesn't have any force sensitives, and the Halo array wouldn't affect Nihilus, as he's technically supernatural, even in the demigod zone.

And he can wipe out entire -blam!- planets with a thought. All he has to be is hungry for some souls.
Also, there's the mysterious Force Demons, who appear immortal and invincible.
But yeah, Nihilus would solo the Halo-verse with his ghost ship and technically undead crew.

Also, Star Wars has droids that could take on the flood and win, easily. IG-88 and his army of droids, teaming up with HK-47 and his private army, would ROFLSTOMP the Flood.

We also are forgetting the Chiss Ascendency and the Mnngal Mnngal.

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  • 11.08.2012 6:22 PM PDT

Chotato

though a little of topic how the hell did star wars get to where it is today when it was so fricken op with things like sunchrushers or whatever that can make stars go supernova and survive?

what happened to the guy who could destroy a planet using force, why do we have these weak guys leading it now?

  • 11.08.2012 6:37 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

*drums on desk with fingers while making noises with mouth*Posted by: dahuterschuter
You can choose:

A) True Halo and Star Wars total universes: Everything to ever canonically exist in the respective universes is included in the battle. This allows for Precursors and Forerunners, as well as millions of Jedi and Sith and Force users.

B) Latest representation of Halo and Star Wars universes: Everything which currently canonically exists in their universes. Meaning far less Jedi and Sith, and no Precursors, severely limited Forerunner.

  • 11.08.2012 6:41 PM PDT
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Star Wars is so overpowered, it isn't even funny. Halo is very underpowered when compared to most other universes.

  • 11.08.2012 6:41 PM PDT