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Subject: Vaccinations are extremely harmful; natural remedies are essential

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"Ignorance is a plague."

Close, but the plague killed those infected with it, and the ignorant are still alive.
I wish ignorance was a plague.

Posted by: LiberatorOfMind
I don't understand all the parents who actually choose to inject their children with viruses, especially with all the new evidence coming out about the dangers of vaccines.
What new evidence are you talking about? Do you mean the study that started all this paranoia and was later found to be a sham? A few isolated instances of someone being vaccinated and then becoming sick is not proof, tens of thousands of people are vaccinated every day, some are bound to become ill from other factors. A "scary" list of ingredients isn't proof of anything either.

If you can present us with a randomized, blind clinical study that shows that vaccines are harmful and that that harm is greater than that caused by the multitude of disease that are easily prevented by vaccination, I will reconsider my position. Until then, I will maintain that vaccinations are useful and should be mandatory for anyone working in hospitals and all children attending public schools who do not have a valid medical condition that prevents it.

  • 11.10.2012 4:56 PM PDT

Generalizations.
Helping idiots hate other idiots since people have existed.

Posted by: Rec 6
Where's Bobcast when you need him...

  • 11.10.2012 4:57 PM PDT

If we disagree, it's nothing personal, opinions are opinions.
Antagonizing me to build a false sense of worth is so damn cute.

Brighten your day with science.

Op is a really bad troll.

  • 11.10.2012 4:58 PM PDT

Posted by: Alex Mac Kee
If pen­ises were planes Jimmy's mouth would be an airport


Posted by: DarkBen64
Don't punch a British kid, the queen'll come after you.

Posted by: destroys u
A "scary" list of ingredients isn't proof of anything either.
Oh I love it when people do this

"Watch out people, it contains chemicals! Well so does literally everything else but that's beside the point..."

  • 11.10.2012 4:58 PM PDT


Posted by: teh Chaz
If the vaccinations did cause autism then why in hell would doctors and pharmeceutical companies still use them? Doesn't that kind of go against their philosophy?

Dude, the pharmaceutical companies profit from people being sick.

  • 11.10.2012 4:59 PM PDT

Generalizations.
Helping idiots hate other idiots since people have existed.

OP, do you know how vaccinations work?

  • 11.10.2012 4:59 PM PDT


Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
OP, do you know how vaccinations work?

Yes, but they can be damaging and are entirely unnecessary.

For example, there are countless herbs out there that can be much more effective at fighting disease than vaccinations.

[Edited on 11.10.2012 5:02 PM PST]

  • 11.10.2012 5:02 PM PDT
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Seriously?

Are you serious? Did you never read about what a Vaccination actually does? Or finish basic biology?

  • 11.10.2012 5:03 PM PDT

ooga booga boooh

Apparently no one here has read "Bad Science: Hacks Quacks and Pharma Flacks".

4/10 because OP got me to reply again.

  • 11.10.2012 5:04 PM PDT


Posted by: damad3
Seriously?

Are you serious? Did you never read about what a Vaccination actually does? Or finish basic biology?
Read what I just posted a second ago.

  • 11.10.2012 5:04 PM PDT

Posted by: Alex Mac Kee
If pen­ises were planes Jimmy's mouth would be an airport


Posted by: DarkBen64
Don't punch a British kid, the queen'll come after you.

Posted by: LiberatorOfMind
Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
OP, do you know how vaccinations work?

Yes, but they can be damaging and are entirely unnecessary.

For example, there are countless herbs out there that can be much more effective at fighting disease than vaccinations.
How is a dead copy of a disease damaging?

Post a source that isn't from an alternative medicine site.

  • 11.10.2012 5:04 PM PDT

Generalizations.
Helping idiots hate other idiots since people have existed.


Posted by: LiberatorOfMind

Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
OP, do you know how vaccinations work?

Yes, but they can be damaging and are entirely unnecessary.

For example, there are countless herbs out there that can be much more effective at fighting disease than vaccinations.


Something tells me that you don't know how they work.
Can you explain to me how vaccinations work as proof that you know how they work?

  • 11.10.2012 5:04 PM PDT


Posted by: teh Chaz
Posted by: LiberatorOfMind
Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
OP, do you know how vaccinations work?

Yes, but they can be damaging and are entirely unnecessary.

For example, there are countless herbs out there that can be much more effective at fighting disease than vaccinations.
How is a dead copy of a disease damaging?

Post a source that isn't from an alternative medicine site.

>implying that alternative medicine sites are unreliable.

  • 11.10.2012 5:05 PM PDT

Posted by: Alex Mac Kee
If pen­ises were planes Jimmy's mouth would be an airport


Posted by: DarkBen64
Don't punch a British kid, the queen'll come after you.

Posted by: LiberatorOfMind
>implying that alternative medicine sites are unreliable.
They support homeopathy, something that literally makes no sense.

I think I'm justified in being sceptical about their views on matters of health.

  • 11.10.2012 5:06 PM PDT


Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr

Posted by: LiberatorOfMind

Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
OP, do you know how vaccinations work?

Yes, but they can be damaging and are entirely unnecessary.

For example, there are countless herbs out there that can be much more effective at fighting disease than vaccinations.


Something tells me that you don't know how they work.
Can you explain to me how vaccinations work as proof that you know how they work?
A small, dead strain of a virus is put inside a patient so that the patient's immune system can learn to better fight the virus.

I know what they are. They're just ridiculous and only benefit the greedy pharmaceutical companies who profit off of disease and death. It's the same thing with the fluoridation of tap water.

  • 11.10.2012 5:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: LiberatorOfMind

Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
OP, do you know how vaccinations work?

Yes, but they can be damaging and are entirely unnecessary.

For example, there are countless herbs out there that can be much more effective at fighting disease than vaccinations.

You really have no clue what a vaccine is, do you? You don't get a vaccine to fight a disease, you take a vaccine to prevent them by forcing your body to make the anti-bodies to fight the disease ahead of time, so when you are exposed to the pathogen, you body kills it on sight rather than it setting in and multiplying before your body responds.

  • 11.10.2012 5:08 PM PDT

Posted by: Alex Mac Kee
If pen­ises were planes Jimmy's mouth would be an airport


Posted by: DarkBen64
Don't punch a British kid, the queen'll come after you.

Posted by: LiberatorOfMind
A small, dead strain of a virus is put inside a patient so that the patient's immune system can learn to better fight the virus.
Kind of

More like makes the body aware of the virus so it can eliminate it immediately if it ever arrives in the system again.

I know what they are. They're just ridiculous and only benefit the greedy pharmaceutical companies who profit off of disease and death. It's the same thing with the fluoridation of tap water. Now I want to know what mental gymnastics took you here.

[Edited on 11.10.2012 5:09 PM PST]

  • 11.10.2012 5:08 PM PDT


Posted by: teh Chaz
Posted by: LiberatorOfMind
>implying that alternative medicine sites are unreliable.
They support homeopathy, something that literally makes no sense.

I think I'm justified in being sceptical about their views on matters of health.

Who is "they"? Different supporters of alternative medicine have different views.

They don't all believe in homeopathy.

  • 11.10.2012 5:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: LiberatorOfMind

Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
OP, do you know how vaccinations work?

Yes, but they can be damaging and are entirely unnecessary.

For example, there are countless herbs out there that can be much more effective at fighting disease than vaccinations.
Ok, find me a herb that causes the immune system to produce antibodies to fight the polio virus.

  • 11.10.2012 5:09 PM PDT

Posted by: teh Chaz
I know what they are. They're just ridiculous and only benefit the greedy pharmaceutical companies who profit off of disease and death. It's the same thing with the fluoridation of tap water. Now I want to know what mental gymnastics took you here.
There's no gymnastics there. Do some research. Fluoride causes autism and cancer with low doses over a long period of time.

[Edited on 11.10.2012 5:10 PM PST]

  • 11.10.2012 5:09 PM PDT

Derp


Posted by: CND AAA Beef

Posted by: LiberatorOfMind

Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
OP, do you know how vaccinations work?

Yes, but they can be damaging and are entirely unnecessary.

For example, there are countless herbs out there that can be much more effective at fighting disease than vaccinations.
Ok, find me a herb that causes the immune system to produce antibodies to fight the polio virus.
the polio herb of course

  • 11.10.2012 5:10 PM PDT

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Good thing you know so much better than scientists and doctors. If only our entire society embraced this sort of folksy intuitive reasoning, we might be enjoying such technologies as the horse-drawn wagon, or even fire by now.

Damn science, always holding us back.

[Edited on 11.10.2012 5:10 PM PST]

  • 11.10.2012 5:10 PM PDT

Posted by: Alex Mac Kee
If pen­ises were planes Jimmy's mouth would be an airport


Posted by: DarkBen64
Don't punch a British kid, the queen'll come after you.

Posted by: LiberatorOfMind
Who is "they"? Different supporters of alternative medicine have different views.

They don't all believe in homeopathy.
Homeopathy is a pretty widespread branch of alternative medicine, I used it as an example.

The rest of it often isn't proven to work either in any case.

  • 11.10.2012 5:10 PM PDT

Posted by: CND AAA Beef

Posted by: LiberatorOfMind

Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
OP, do you know how vaccinations work?

Yes, but they can be damaging and are entirely unnecessary.

For example, there are countless herbs out there that can be much more effective at fighting disease than vaccinations.
Ok, find me a herb that causes the immune system to produce antibodies to fight the polio virus.
Astragalus root and coriander can kill the virus flat.

Also, polio was already dying out by the time the vaccine arrived. Correlation vs. causation, man.

  • 11.10.2012 5:12 PM PDT

ITT: Unhealthy amounts of paranoia.

  • 11.10.2012 5:12 PM PDT