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Subject: Vaccinations are extremely harmful; natural remedies are essential

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"Ignorance is a plague."

Close, but the plague killed those infected with it, and the ignorant are still alive.
I wish ignorance was a plague.


Posted by: LiberatorOfMind
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Posted by: LiberatorOfMind

Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
OP, do you know how vaccinations work?

Yes, but they can be damaging and are entirely unnecessary.

For example, there are countless herbs out there that can be much more effective at fighting disease than vaccinations.
Ok, find me a herb that causes the immune system to produce antibodies to fight the polio virus.
Astragalus root and coriander can kill the virus flat.
That would have been great if it was true, but unfortunately for the hundreds of thousands of people who were paralysed or killed, it is a lie.

  • 11.10.2012 5:21 PM PDT

If we disagree, it's nothing personal, opinions are opinions.
Antagonizing me to build a false sense of worth is so damn cute.

Brighten your day with science.

Successful troll is successful.

  • 11.10.2012 5:21 PM PDT

I know my ways. So just stay back.

This has to be a troll post.

  • 11.10.2012 5:21 PM PDT

Generalizations.
Helping idiots hate other idiots since people have existed.


Posted by: LiberatorOfMind

Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr

Posted by: LiberatorOfMind

Posted by: Ric_Adbur
Good thing you know so much better than scientists and doctors. If only our entire society embraced this sort of folksy intuitive reasoning, we might be enjoying such technologies as the horse-drawn wagon, or even fire by now.

Damn science, always holding us back.

It's not the science that's holding us back. It's the pharmaceutical corporations who engineer vaccines and "modern" medicine to thrall us. They hate natural herbs because they free the mind and the body.


Bob Marley thought he could treat his cancer with natural herbs, and he refused treatment that would have saved his life.
It was too late by the time he used herbalism.


In 1977, doctors wanted to amputate his toe. He refused. There was time to save him.
He died a few years later when the cancer spread through his body.

[Edited on 11.10.2012 5:22 PM PST]

  • 11.10.2012 5:22 PM PDT

Posted by: borrowedchief
We aren't here to ruin your experience (Well Qbix is).


Posted by: DarkSunnyboy1
Successful troll is successful.
Reached 100+ replies. Must be successful.

  • 11.10.2012 5:22 PM PDT


Posted by: destroys u

Posted by: LiberatorOfMind
Posted by: CND AAA Beef

Posted by: LiberatorOfMind

Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
OP, do you know how vaccinations work?

Yes, but they can be damaging and are entirely unnecessary.

For example, there are countless herbs out there that can be much more effective at fighting disease than vaccinations.
Ok, find me a herb that causes the immune system to produce antibodies to fight the polio virus.
Astragalus root and coriander can kill the virus flat.
That would have been great if it was true, but unfortunately for the hundreds of thousands of people who were paralysed or killed, it is a lie.
No, it's not. Do some research. It hundreds of times more effective than the vaccine.

  • 11.10.2012 5:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: LiberatorOfMind

Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr

Posted by: LiberatorOfMind
I know what they are. They're just ridiculous and only benefit the greedy pharmaceutical companies who profit off of disease and death. It's the same thing with the fluoridation of tap water.


Yeah, because eradicating polio and smallpox is just ridiculous, right?

Polio wasn't cured by the polio vaccine. I do admit that the smallpox vaccine is beneficial, but vaccines for things like the flu is ridiculous.
Polio wasn't cured by the vaccine. it was wiped out by it. There are now less than a thousand cases reported worldwide each year, and effectively none in the developed world.

Also, your claim that polio was dying out by the time a vaccine was developed is completely false. Polio cases and deaths were actually increasing before the vaccine was developed and deployed.

  • 11.10.2012 5:23 PM PDT
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I think OP shows a good case for homoeopathy causing autism.

+1000

  • 11.10.2012 5:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: JacobTheGreat2
This has to be a troll post.
Unfortunately, it's often difficult to tell the difference between a troll and an idiot. Some people actually do believe this crap, after all.

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Penn and Teller on Vaccines

  • 11.10.2012 5:24 PM PDT

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Case and point: don't worry about it. Girls start getting boobies pretty soon, and then you'll have plenty of other things to think about. Being an Inheritor is not a life goal.
-TGP-

Posted by: petitminou
Such a troll.
Relevant

  • 11.10.2012 5:24 PM PDT


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Posted by: LiberatorOfMind

Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr

Posted by: LiberatorOfMind
I know what they are. They're just ridiculous and only benefit the greedy pharmaceutical companies who profit off of disease and death. It's the same thing with the fluoridation of tap water.


Yeah, because eradicating polio and smallpox is just ridiculous, right?

Polio wasn't cured by the polio vaccine. I do admit that the smallpox vaccine is beneficial, but vaccines for things like the flu is ridiculous.
Polio wasn't cured by the vaccine. it was wiped out by it. There are now less than a thousand cases reported worldwide each year, and effectively none in the developed world.

Also, your claim that polio was dying out by the time a vaccine was developed is completely false. Polio cases and deaths were actually increasing before the vaccine was developed and deployed.
A .gov site? Really?

They're the ones who are advocating for the vaccine, of course they would argue in favor of it!

  • 11.10.2012 5:24 PM PDT

Generalizations.
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Posted by: LiberatorOfMind

Posted by: CND AAA Beef

Posted by: LiberatorOfMind

Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr

Posted by: LiberatorOfMind
I know what they are. They're just ridiculous and only benefit the greedy pharmaceutical companies who profit off of disease and death. It's the same thing with the fluoridation of tap water.


Yeah, because eradicating polio and smallpox is just ridiculous, right?

Polio wasn't cured by the polio vaccine. I do admit that the smallpox vaccine is beneficial, but vaccines for things like the flu is ridiculous.
Polio wasn't cured by the vaccine. it was wiped out by it. There are now less than a thousand cases reported worldwide each year, and effectively none in the developed world.

Also, your claim that polio was dying out by the time a vaccine was developed is completely false. Polio cases and deaths were actually increasing before the vaccine was developed and deployed.
A .gov site? Really?

They're the ones who are advocating for the vaccine, of course they would argue in favor of it!


lol

  • 11.10.2012 5:25 PM PDT
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Is amused by many of those arguing for no reason


Posted by: LiberatorOfMind

Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr

Posted by: LiberatorOfMind
I know what they are. They're just ridiculous and only benefit the greedy pharmaceutical companies who profit off of disease and death. It's the same thing with the fluoridation of tap water.


Yeah, because eradicating polio and smallpox is just ridiculous, right?

Polio wasn't cured by the polio vaccine. I do admit that the smallpox vaccine is beneficial, but vaccines for things like the flu is ridiculous.


I'm trying to understand your point of view and at the moment it just seems like you are either deliberately ignoring factual evidence or basing your opinions entirely off wildly speculative websites.

Oh look, a badly constructed website written on the subject I'm talking about, it must be true!

Back on topic though, homeopathy is viable in some instances, research is hard to do in an area where people insist on keeping their "secret recipes". In that respect, homeopathy is much like clairvoyance, where people refuse to say how they do it so they can't be proven to be fakes.
The flu jab is necessary not because it lowers your chances of getting the flu, but because it lessens the exposure to it for other people. This is why doctors and dentists in the UK have to have a flu jab to continue working; if they didn't have a flu jab then they could become very efficient spreaders of the disease, one patient infecting them and then the doctors spreading it to the rest.

Short Version: Think of the children!

  • 11.10.2012 5:26 PM PDT


Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
lol

What a compelling argument.

  • 11.10.2012 5:26 PM PDT


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Posted by: LiberatorOfMind

Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr

Posted by: LiberatorOfMind
I know what they are. They're just ridiculous and only benefit the greedy pharmaceutical companies who profit off of disease and death. It's the same thing with the fluoridation of tap water.


Yeah, because eradicating polio and smallpox is just ridiculous, right?

Polio wasn't cured by the polio vaccine. I do admit that the smallpox vaccine is beneficial, but vaccines for things like the flu is ridiculous.


I'm trying to understand your point of view and at the moment it just seems like you are either deliberately ignoring factual evidence or basing your opinions entirely off wildly speculative websites.

Oh look, a badly constructed website written on the subject I'm talking about, it must be true!

Back on topic though, homeopathy is viable in some instances, research is hard to do in an area where people insist on keeping their "secret recipes". In that respect, homeopathy is much like clairvoyance, where people refuse to say how they do it so they can't be proven to be fakes.
The flu jab is necessary not because it lowers your chances of getting the flu, but because it lessens the exposure to it for other people. This is why doctors and dentists in the UK have to have a flu jab to continue working; if they didn't have a flu jab then they could become very efficient spreaders of the disease, one patient infecting them and then the doctors spreading it to the rest.

Short Version: Think of the children!
I'm not talking about homeopathy, I'm talking about herbalism.

  • 11.10.2012 5:28 PM PDT

Gamers don't die, they just go offline.

"...and the fanboys will unite to slay the Call of Duty threat for the greater good of gaming."

You're a bad person if you don't vaccinate your children or yourself.

And herbalism is a sham also.

[Edited on 11.10.2012 5:29 PM PST]

  • 11.10.2012 5:28 PM PDT

If we disagree, it's nothing personal, opinions are opinions.
Antagonizing me to build a false sense of worth is so damn cute.

Brighten your day with science.

OP right now.

  • 11.10.2012 5:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: Telec
"like a sniper using bollocks for ammunition..."
Yessss, I was waiting for this one.

Anti-vac people really don't have a leg to stand on, there's no actual peer-reviewed literature that links vaccines with autism or [insert disease here], and they've been ridiculously successful and giving us a herd immunity and generally making life less painful.

  • 11.10.2012 5:29 PM PDT


Posted by: DarkSunnyboy1
OP right now.

It's funny because that kid's a badass.

  • 11.10.2012 5:29 PM PDT

Generalizations.
Helping idiots hate other idiots since people have existed.


Posted by: LiberatorOfMind

Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
lol

What a compelling argument.


No matter how many sources we give you, your argument will always be,

"That source is biased!"

It makes no difference where we list the source from. You'll always say "it's biased." It's impossible to argue with someone who refuses to recognize the scientific method and hides behind the excuse of, "The science is biased."

You're just like the conspiracy theorists who say, "I have no evidence because it's all been locked up by government."

[Edited on 11.10.2012 5:31 PM PST]

  • 11.10.2012 5:29 PM PDT

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"Ignorance is a plague."

Close, but the plague killed those infected with it, and the ignorant are still alive.
I wish ignorance was a plague.

Posted by: LiberatorOfMind
Posted by: destroys u
That would have been great if it was true, but unfortunately for the hundreds of thousands of people who were paralysed or killed, it is a lie.
No, it's not. Do some research. It hundreds of times more effective than the vaccine.
That's it, I'm done. I wasn't sure if you were a troll, so I stuck around, hoping to inform someone who was "on the fence" about vaccinations. Just in case there is anyone like that who is reading, here is a good talk that explains the basics.

  • 11.10.2012 5:30 PM PDT


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Posted by: Telec
"like a sniper using bollocks for ammunition..."
Yessss, I was waiting for this one.

Anti-vac people really don't have a leg to stand on, there's no actual peer-reviewed literature that links vaccines with autism or [insert disease here], and they've been ridiculously successful and giving us a herd immunity and generally making life less painful.
Keyword "herd" in herd immunity. These vaccines are turning us into sheep, and that's exactly what Big Medicine wants. Of course there's no "scientific" proof that vaccinations are harmful...who do you think funds the scientists? Not Mother Nature, that's for sure.

  • 11.10.2012 5:31 PM PDT


Posted by: LiberatorOfMind

Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr

Posted by: LiberatorOfMind

Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
OP, do you know how vaccinations work?

Yes, but they can be damaging and are entirely unnecessary.

For example, there are countless herbs out there that can be much more effective at fighting disease than vaccinations.


Something tells me that you don't know how they work.
Can you explain to me how vaccinations work as proof that you know how they work?
A small, dead strain of a virus is put inside a patient so that the patient's immune system can learn to better fight the virus.

I know what they are. They're just ridiculous and only benefit the greedy pharmaceutical companies who profit off of disease and death. It's the same thing with the fluoridation of tap water.

So what your saying is: the people who make the vaccines that keep people from getting sick benefit the people who make money off people getting sick?

  • 11.10.2012 5:31 PM PDT