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Subject: bungie vs. 343

Poll: bungie vs. 343  [closed]
yes:  29%
(20 Votes)
no:  62%
(42 Votes)
same:  9%
(6 Votes)
Total Votes: 68

do you guys think that 343 did a better job on halo then bungie would had

  • 11.12.2012 1:55 PM PDT

and do anyone have 343 website

  • 11.12.2012 1:58 PM PDT

oh my god

343's website is halo waypoint.

  • 11.12.2012 2:01 PM PDT

1. 343s website .
2. 343inds was made to milk Halo dry of cash, that's all.

[Edited on 11.12.2012 3:10 PM PST]

  • 11.12.2012 2:06 PM PDT

Posted by: Mythical Wolf
Anyone that likes them, is an idiot to be honest.
Oh shut up you bigot.

  • 11.12.2012 2:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: Mythical Wolf
Anyone that likes them, is an idiot to be honest.


LOL, come on man. Thats not a very smart thing to say, 343 is doing a fantastic job on the continuation of the Halo series.

  • 11.12.2012 2:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: Anton P Nym
who says you have to be an ace to have fun?

Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
Stupid parents let their stupid children play games that are rated M when they should be playing Big Birds Spelling Adventures

Posted by: Kira Onime
Also the AR is actually good in CQB now and no longer a glorified baseball bat.

I have to say, no, 343 did not do better with Halo than Bungie did.

They followed the "Ubisoft trend" of making a game that tries to directly compete with other games(namely, Call of Duty and Battlefield) instead of just making their own distinct game that isn't drawing off of other games' features to bring in fans from the other games.

The reason I say they are trying to partially copy CoD and Battlefield is some of the "new" features such as loadouts and the instant respawning in slayer gametypes.

The ironic part is that CoD Glack Ops 2 is trying to copy features from other games that had already copied stuff from CoD. (see: Ghost Recon FS and the Rainbow Six Vegas games)

  • 11.12.2012 3:00 PM PDT

I intend to live forever, or die trying,

so far, so good.

Who cares, as long as they games they make are great.

Bungie made great Halo games, and I hope 343 does the same.

  • 11.12.2012 3:44 PM PDT

Happy hunting.

Posted by: Aj6627

They followed the "Ubisoft trend" of making a game that tries to directly compete with other games(namely, Call of Duty and Battlefield) instead of just making their own distinct game that isn't drawing off of other games' features to bring in fans from the other games.



This is a good point. Bungie made Halo, well, Halo. They built a game that they wanted to play.

343 were just given a blank check by Microsoft. To make a game that was big in this whole 'FPS war'. But they did nail some areas in Halo 4. Just not as much as Bungie did.

  • 11.12.2012 3:46 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
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Bungie had this nack for the details that 343, as of right now, lacks.

  • 11.12.2012 3:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: Kira Onime
Bungie had this nack for the details that 343, as of right now, lacks.

I haven't played Halo 4 yet.

Care to elaborate on what kind of details (gameplay, art design, ect)?

If you're talking about campaign, well, don't elaborate because I don't want any spoilers.


One thing I loved about Bungie, unlike most games, is that they always put detail into things that weren't even significant.

For example: in Reach, the compass on the AR changed position based on direction even if the weapon was on the ground. This detail is insignificant, yet it made me appreciate the game more. Same thing with the ammo counter. Or how the warthog and mongoose had a light that went from green to red next to the wheel, based on speed despite the fact that this detail is very small and can really only be noticed and appreciated if you were to closely examine the vehicle.

Is this the kind of detail that you meant, Kira?

btw: Your name reminds of of Death Note...

[Edited on 11.12.2012 4:03 PM PST]

  • 11.12.2012 4:00 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
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I'm mostly talking about multiplayer details.

They promoted their new stuff so much they forgot to include the options to either deactivate them, or change them.


-Flag/odball are instant pickup - can't toggle
-Join in progress is retarded by moments - can't select to have it on or off
-Can't turn off default sprint
-Limited playlists.

Little stuff like that that give Bungie the upper hand IMO.
Let's not forget Bungie have already proven themselves in the past while 343 has yet to do so.



I do like H4, way more than Reach, but H4 has so much potential locked away.

  • 11.12.2012 4:15 PM PDT

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Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: SAAKILLER


I'm mostly talking about multiplayer details.

They promoted their new stuff so much they forgot to include the options to either deactivate them, or change them.


-Flag/odball are instant pickup - can't toggle
-Join in progress is retarded by moments - can't select to have it on or off
-Can't turn off default sprint
-Limited playlists.

Little stuff like that that give Bungie the upper hand IMO.
Let's not forget Bungie have already proven themselves in the past while 343 has yet to do so.



I do like H4, way more than Reach, but H4 has so much potential locked away.

Ok. I think 343i said something about using updates to fix these problems with the flag/oddball.

Wait, did you say that if I go MM, I might accidentally join a session in progress? Because I hate that. Everytime I'm playing CoD and that happens, I end up joining a game in which the enemy's got Gunship and I get spawn-killed. t(-_-) Cod!

As for the playlists, that can always be changed.

Are the weapons balanced?

  • 11.12.2012 4:37 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
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Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
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Posted by: SAAKILLER
Ok. I think 343i said something about using updates to fix these problems with the flag/oddball.

Wait, did you say that if I go MM, I might accidentally join a session in progress? Because I hate that. Everytime I'm playing CoD and that happens, I end up joining a game in which the enemy's got Gunship and I get spawn-killed. t(-_-) Cod!

As for the playlists, that can always be changed.

Are the weapons balanced?



Yup, you can join in on a game that's already half way done with the other team having 30 more kills than yours.


As for weapons..... DMR can pretty much shat on everything at any range. Close range be be somewhat tricky due to the massive amounts of CQB weapons.


Also, starting with a shotgun lol.

  • 11.12.2012 4:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: SAAKILLER
Ok. I think 343i said something about using updates to fix these problems with the flag/oddball.

Wait, did you say that if I go MM, I might accidentally join a session in progress? Because I hate that. Everytime I'm playing CoD and that happens, I end up joining a game in which the enemy's got Gunship and I get spawn-killed. t(-_-) Cod!

As for the playlists, that can always be changed.

Are the weapons balanced?



Yup, you can join in on a game that's already half way done with the other team having 30 more kills than yours.


As for weapons..... DMR can pretty much shat on everything at any range. Close range be be somewhat tricky due to the massive amounts of CQB weapons.


Also, starting with a shotgun lol.

I can spawn with a shotgun? WHAT THE 4UCK! That's a power weapon. Cmon! This better be a joke. Please say so.

Is the AR good? What's its SK?

[Edited on 11.12.2012 4:51 PM PST]

  • 11.12.2012 4:48 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
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Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
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Posted by: SAAKILLER
I can spawn with a shotgun? WHAT THE 4UCK! That's a power weapon. Cmon! This better be a joke. Please say so.

Is the AR good? What's its SK?


Well, it's actually the boltshot.... a plasma pistol-ish kinda weapon.

Hold down the trigger to charge up a shotgun-like shot.

Also the AR is actually good in CQB now and no longer a glorified baseball bat.

But again, DMR gona shat on it.

  • 11.12.2012 4:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: Kira Onime

How 'bout the reticule size of the AR. Does it resemble the anu$ of a person before prison or after?

[Edited on 11.12.2012 4:59 PM PST]

  • 11.12.2012 4:58 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
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Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
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Posted by: Kira Onime

How 'bout the reticule size of the AR. Does it resemble the anu$ of a person before prison or after?


AR still has some bloom to it, so do all the weapons.
But bloom is so neglectable in H4.

  • 11.12.2012 5:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: Kira Onime

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Posted by: Kira Onime

How 'bout the reticule size of the AR. Does it resemble the anu$ of a person before prison or after?


AR still has some bloom to it, so do all the weapons.
But bloom is so neglectable in H4.

Ok. I'm gonna play Halo 4 soon. Hopefull I'll like it.

Though it pisses me off how emblems need to be unlocked.
The emblem is a way of expressing yourself in Halo. It's been like that since Halo 2.

*sigh

[Edited on 11.12.2012 5:13 PM PST]

  • 11.12.2012 5:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: Anton P Nym
who says you have to be an ace to have fun?

Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
Stupid parents let their stupid children play games that are rated M when they should be playing Big Birds Spelling Adventures

Posted by: Kira Onime
Also the AR is actually good in CQB now and no longer a glorified baseball bat.

Posted by: Kira Onime
Also the AR is actually good in CQB now and no longer a glorified baseball bat.


Thank you for that quote! I just edited my signature for probably the first time in 6-7 years!

  • 11.12.2012 10:49 PM PDT


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Posted by: Mythical Wolf
Anyone that likes them, is an idiot to be honest.


LOL, come on man. Thats not a very smart thing to say, 343 is doing a fantastic job on the continuation of the Halo series.

-Takes out old but good features for no reason
-Replaces old features with new ones that are nonsensical by comparison

Yep, they're doing great.

[Edited on 11.12.2012 10:54 PM PST]

  • 11.12.2012 10:53 PM PDT

No...

Halo 4 has more glitches than the Reach Beta...

  • 11.13.2012 12:48 AM PDT
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Posted by: SatansReverence
No...

Halo 4 has more glitches than the Reach Beta...

Reach, from a glitches standpoint, was easily one of the best FPS games.

Most FPS games when shipped are inherently broken, easily glitch-able and require patches.

Reach did not have any major game breaking glitches, and most of the glitches in the game were physics issues, with the light speed glitch being the most common.

Reach had a lot of balance issues but Bungie seemed to do a damn fine job that the game worked properly from the technical perspective.

Although the engine issues on the other hand...

As for the question: A large percentage of Bungie employees who made Halo 1-2-3 are still there, so Bungie.

[Edited on 11.13.2012 2:08 AM PST]

  • 11.13.2012 2:07 AM PDT

lol ... poll to compare 'reach engine from bungie' to another 'reach engine with new maps'.

There is only so much lipstick ypu can slap on bungies pig.
(although, hate to admit it, but 343 did make it look almost attractive - without being drunk)

  • 11.13.2012 4:59 AM PDT
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How can I compare a dev that has only developed one game to one that has developed, like, fifteen?

For what it's worth, Halo 4 is excellent. I'm not sure I can say it's just as good as previous Halo games but when a franchise is on it's seventh installment that's natural. It's still a damn good game and if 343 were tasked with making an entirely orginal game they'd probably give the Halo series a run for it's money with all it's top notch talent at the helm.

  • 11.13.2012 4:47 PM PDT

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