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Subject: So how did Storm hold out for 6 months? *spoilers*

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The faction of Covies we fight in 4 is supposed to be more of a rag-tag group, right? So how did they have the resources to secure and keep Requiem for 6 months after the campaign? How did they even get inside? It's only supposed to open for Reclaimers, I thought.

And why did the UNSC take so long to get back? You'd think the resting place of the (now dead) last Forerunner would be a priority target.

Or am I overthinking it?

  • 11.16.2012 3:32 PM PDT

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You're over thinking.
UNSC had to contend with the New Phoenix Incident, gather up more resources and possibly replace some of its Spartan contingent. Storm is supported by the Forerunner army, and Requiem was already open, it never closed.

  • 11.16.2012 3:47 PM PDT

Glory and fame, blood is our name!
Souls full of thunder, hearts of steel!
Killers of men, a warrior's friend!
Sworn to avenge our fallen brothers!
Sons of the gods, today we shall die.
Open Valhalla's door!
Let the battle begin, with swords in the wind! Hail Gods of War!

That seems like a gaping flaw in security.

  • 11.16.2012 5:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: GhostLink2401
That seems like a gaping flaw in security.


It has been you know thousands of years- things do break.

  • 11.16.2012 5:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: GhostLink2401
You'd think the resting place of the (now dead) last Forerunner would be a priority target.

Or am I overthinking it?


Aside from the actual topic. Note that the Didact isn't really dead.

  • 11.16.2012 6:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: GhostLink2401
You'd think the resting place of the (now dead) last Forerunner would be a priority target.

Or am I overthinking it?


Aside from the actual topic. Note that the Didact isn't really dead.

Unconfirmed

  • 11.16.2012 6:44 PM PDT
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Totally awesome!

I don't know but Jul is a badass.

  • 11.16.2012 6:48 PM PDT

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Unconfirmed


I won't, by any means, derail the thread so I'll just nod and agree.

*Edit for poor grammar.

[Edited on 11.16.2012 7:04 PM PST]

  • 11.16.2012 7:01 PM PDT


Posted by: Sgt Drifter

Posted by: GhostLink2401
That seems like a gaping flaw in security.


It has been you know thousands of years- things do break.
forerunners design their technology to last. I doubt they would design the planet to break after it opened for the first time in 100,000 years.


i mean, nearly everything else relating to forerunners is still running as if it were brand new.

[Edited on 11.16.2012 8:30 PM PST]

  • 11.16.2012 8:30 PM PDT

Honestly it sounds like the UNSC LET the covenant have Reqiuem for sixth months for some reason.

  • 11.16.2012 9:03 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Honestly it sounds like the UNSC LET the covenant have Requiem for sixth months for some reason.
maybe to let them dig sh*it up so they can come in and take it?

  • 11.16.2012 9:05 PM PDT

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In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten

I like how the UNSC is now on the offensive and attacking the covies directly because they have the firepower now.

  • 11.16.2012 9:09 PM PDT
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The advent of the Chief gave them the opportunity to enter, just like how his button pushing woke the Didact. It's all Chief's fault!

As for resources, blame Jul. He's the one who can undermine ONI's operations and unite the Elites.

  • 11.16.2012 9:34 PM PDT


Posted by: Sliding Ghost
The advent of the Chief gave them the opportunity to enter, just like how his button pushing woke the Didact. It's all Chief's fault!


The Infinity was going to arrive sooner or later anyway and would have probably awoken the Didact iself, it found co-ordinates for Requiem. Mendicant Bias sent John there first because he's the best, was engineered for greatness 100,000 years ago and had the greatest chance of killing the Didact.

  • 11.17.2012 2:28 AM PDT
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I cannot fathom how Storm is supposed to be any sort of a "ragtag" faction.

From what I've seen, they are far better equipped than any other Covenant force I've ever encountered. I suppose it was retconned, but didn't the Sangheili lose manufacturing capability of their warships? You'd think whoever was in charge on Sangheilios would zealously guard her final navies.

I can't understand how so many dozens of operational cruisers fell into the hands of a Sangheili terrorist[?] cell.

As for their ground forces, they do seem a little worse for wear, but there are so damn many of them.

I never felt once like I was fighting a bunch of aging war Vets. It felt like I was getting my ass kicked by the best the Old Covenant had to offer.

  • 11.17.2012 2:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: GhostLink2401
The faction of Covies we fight in 4 is supposed to be more of a rag-tag group, right?

I'm not sure it was ever supposed to be, to be honest. Fans seemingly just made that up to avoid the fact that the conclusion and final setting established in the original trilogy, as well as the Arbiter's character arc and the work the player did therein, has been overturned and thrown in the garbage.

They are far too large in terms of numbers, ships and resources; far too well equipped and organised, and experienced, and aggressive, to be some rag-tag faction that has broken away from the main body of ex-Covenant society. I all likelihood it is just the old Covenant reformed in near totality and back to business as usual in spite of everything to the contrary of that possibility.

  • 11.17.2012 3:01 AM PDT
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Posted by: GhostLink2401
The faction of Covies we fight in 4 is supposed to be more of a rag-tag group, right?

I'm not sure it was ever supposed to be, to be honest. Fans seemingly just made that up to avoid the fact that the conclusion and final setting established in the original trilogy, as well as the Arbiter's character arc and the work the player did therein, has been overturned and thrown in the garbage.

They are far too large in terms of numbers, ships and resources; far too well equipped and organised, and experienced, and aggressive, to be some rag-tag faction that has broken away from the main body of ex-Covenant society. I all likelihood it is just the old Covenant reformed in near totality and back to business as usual in spite of everything to the contrary of that possibility.


That's the way I figure it too. Glad I'm not the only one.

  • 11.17.2012 3:04 AM PDT


Posted by: Sliding Ghost
The advent of the Chief gave them the opportunity to enter, just like how his button pushing woke the Didact. It's all Chief's fault!

As for resources, blame Jul. He's the one who can undermine ONI's operations and unite the Elites.


Only because of ONI.

ONI is at fault for the Covenant (Seriously, I think storm was just a made up name after hearing about the storm elites/jackals, cause nobody calls it such ingame or in the guide.) coming back.

  • 11.17.2012 8:12 AM PDT


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Posted by: GhostLink2401
The faction of Covies we fight in 4 is supposed to be more of a rag-tag group, right?

I'm not sure it was ever supposed to be, to be honest. Fans seemingly just made that up to avoid the fact that the conclusion and final setting established in the original trilogy, as well as the Arbiter's character arc and the work the player did therein, has been overturned and thrown in the garbage.

They are far too large in terms of numbers, ships and resources; far too well equipped and organised, and experienced, and aggressive, to be some rag-tag faction that has broken away from the main body of ex-Covenant society. I all likelihood it is just the old Covenant reformed in near totality and back to business as usual in spite of everything to the contrary of that possibility.
Wrong. Glasslands says that the elite home world only had a hand full of ships and those were beating up to hell and back, yet we still in 4 that theres not a scratch on these ones.

  • 11.17.2012 11:11 AM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Sliding Ghost
The advent of the Chief gave them the opportunity to enter, just like how his button pushing woke the Didact. It's all Chief's fault!

As for resources, blame Jul. He's the one who can undermine ONI's operations and unite the Elites.


Only because of ONI.

ONI is at fault for the Covenant (Seriously, I think storm was just a made up name after hearing about the storm elites/jackals, cause nobody calls it such ingame or in the guide.) coming back.
Hey there Cmdr. BTW do you know where the hell that name came from?

  • 11.17.2012 11:12 AM PDT


Posted by: Chester Duncan

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Sliding Ghost
The advent of the Chief gave them the opportunity to enter, just like how his button pushing woke the Didact. It's all Chief's fault!

As for resources, blame Jul. He's the one who can undermine ONI's operations and unite the Elites.


Only because of ONI.

ONI is at fault for the Covenant (Seriously, I think storm was just a made up name after hearing about the storm elites/jackals, cause nobody calls it such ingame or in the guide.) coming back.
Hey there Cmdr. BTW do you know where the hell that name came from?


Theory is news groups saw "storm jackal" "storm elite" and "storm rifle" and went "This group must be called the STORM!"

  • 11.17.2012 12:03 PM PDT

I prefer using Storm to Covenant even if the former is a fan-coined name based on misunderstanding, because it distinguishes the new order from that run by the San 'Shyuum.

Same way people call R'tas 'half jaw.' It's just for clarity's sake, and if everyone knows what you mean I hardly think it matters.

  • 11.17.2012 12:14 PM PDT

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I prefer using Storm to Covenant even if the former is a fan-coined name based on misunderstanding, because it distinguishes the new order from that run by the San 'Shyuum.

Same way people call R'tas 'half jaw.' It's just for clarity's sake, and if everyone knows what you mean I hardly think it matters.
Well, the thing is that "Storm is a small/medium-sized splinter faction", as opposed to being a "real" successor to the old Covenant seems to be pretty widespread thing.

[Edited on 11.17.2012 1:42 PM PST]

  • 11.17.2012 1:41 PM PDT


Posted by: GhostLink2401
The faction of Covies we fight in 4 is supposed to be more of a rag-tag group, right? So how did they have the resources to secure and keep Requiem for 6 months after the campaign? How did they even get inside? It's only supposed to open for Reclaimers, I thought.

And why did the UNSC take so long to get back? You'd think the resting place of the (now dead) last Forerunner would be a priority target.

Or am I overthinking it?


It seems like they held it because no one was sent to fight for it. And Didact became friendly with the Storm so im guessing he made it so the stuff in Requiem can interact with the Storm. And it took that long because humans got wrecked in the last war.... i dont think they have the resources to put up a good fight that quick.

  • 11.17.2012 3:30 PM PDT


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Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: GhostLink2401
The faction of Covies we fight in 4 is supposed to be more of a rag-tag group, right?

I'm not sure it was ever supposed to be, to be honest. Fans seemingly just made that up to avoid the fact that the conclusion and final setting established in the original trilogy, as well as the Arbiter's character arc and the work the player did therein, has been overturned and thrown in the garbage.

They are far too large in terms of numbers, ships and resources; far too well equipped and organised, and experienced, and aggressive, to be some rag-tag faction that has broken away from the main body of ex-Covenant society. I all likelihood it is just the old Covenant reformed in near totality and back to business as usual in spite of everything to the contrary of that possibility.
Wrong. Glasslands says that the elite home world only had a hand full of ships and those were beating up to hell and back, yet we still in 4 that theres not a scratch on these ones.

Chief was able to take out a Covenant Cruiser with one Archer missile. Previously it's taken at least 3 MAC shots and hundreds of missiles to do such a thing.

I doubt those ships are operating at peak capacity.

  • 11.17.2012 6:59 PM PDT

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