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Subject: So how did Storm hold out for 6 months? *spoilers*
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Posted by: Wolverfrog

Posted by: Sliding Ghost
The advent of the Chief gave them the opportunity to enter, just like how his button pushing woke the Didact. It's all Chief's fault!


The Infinity was going to arrive sooner or later anyway and would have probably awoken the Didact iself, it found co-ordinates for Requiem. Mendicant Bias sent John there first because he's the best, was engineered for greatness 100,000 years ago and had the greatest chance of killing the Didact.
Yeah, didn't the Didact lure the Infinity to Requiem? That's what I got from playing Forerunner.

Still though, they would have encountered heavy resistance. I doubt they'd be able to reach the Crytum.

  • 11.17.2012 7:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sliding Ghost

Posted by: Wolverfrog

Posted by: Sliding Ghost
The advent of the Chief gave them the opportunity to enter, just like how his button pushing woke the Didact. It's all Chief's fault!


The Infinity was going to arrive sooner or later anyway and would have probably awoken the Didact iself, it found co-ordinates for Requiem. Mendicant Bias sent John there first because he's the best, was engineered for greatness 100,000 years ago and had the greatest chance of killing the Didact.
Yeah, didn't the Didact lure the Infinity to Requiem? That's what I got from playing Forerunner.

Still though, they would have encountered heavy resistance. I doubt they'd be able to reach the Crytum.


No, Infinity found coordinates on Installation 03 that led them to Requiem.

  • 11.17.2012 9:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: Yakov Sidorov
You're over thinking.
UNSC had to contend with the New Phoenix Incident, gather up more resources and possibly replace some of its Spartan contingent. Storm is supported by the Forerunner army, and Requiem was already open, it never closed.


oh yeah, like a 100.000 year old race can resuply food for Storm's Forces.
Like 100.000 years ago when Requiem shut, the Forerunners thought: 'Hmmm, let's stock some supplies in case a rebellious army would discover this "planet".


it never closed? haha
i quote:' ...it remained sealed off for a hundred millennia since the end of the war.'

[Edited on 11.18.2012 7:51 AM PST]

  • 11.18.2012 7:38 AM PDT
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The Storm didn't seem to have much of a purpose in this game.

  • 11.18.2012 9:13 AM PDT

Posted by: lime013
The Storm didn't seem to have much of a purpose in this game.

It added necessary variety; I certainly didn't want to be fighting just 3 enemy archetypes the whole game.

OT: Master Chief blitzed through the Covenant single handedly, the UNSC probably didn't consider them a serious threat.
As for returning slowly, after Earth had just been attacked by a massive Forerunner ship, I doubt anyone wanted Infinity leaving too soon.

  • 11.18.2012 11:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: lime013
The Storm didn't seem to have much of a purpose in this game.

It added necessary variety; I certainly didn't want to be fighting just 3 enemy archetypes the whole game.
Who said that there would only be three enemy types if the Storm weren't there?

  • 11.18.2012 11:16 AM PDT

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Posted by: roraj 196
Posted by: lime013
The Storm didn't seem to have much of a purpose in this game.

It added necessary variety; I certainly didn't want to be fighting just 3 enemy archetypes the whole game.
Who said that there would only be three enemy types if the Storm weren't there?

No one, I'm assuming. If there were more than 3 Promethean archetypes, why not include them in the game? Besides, the Covenant operate/play differently to the Prometheans, so whichever way you look at it, they added variety.

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Posted by: Wolverfrog

Posted by: Sliding Ghost
The advent of the Chief gave them the opportunity to enter, just like how his button pushing woke the Didact. It's all Chief's fault!


The Infinity was going to arrive sooner or later anyway and would have probably awoken the Didact iself, it found co-ordinates for Requiem. Mendicant Bias sent John there first because he's the best, was engineered for greatness 100,000 years ago and had the greatest chance of killing the Didact.

No, only the Chief could actually reawaken the Didact/open Requiem if the Librarian knows what she is talking about.

Remember the Bestarium (spelling?), guys? Read it. See how the classify the Chief and a regular human differently.

Chief was classified as the exclusive Reclaimer as far as I know.

[Edited on 11.18.2012 11:25 AM PST]

  • 11.18.2012 11:24 AM PDT

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Posted by: Chester Duncan
Wrong. Glasslands says that the elite home world only had a hand full of ships and those were beating up to hell and back, yet we still in 4 that theres not a scratch on these ones.

Which suggests to me that this new Covenant cannot feasibly be a fringe group.

Posted by: TedToaster22
Chief was able to take out a Covenant Cruiser with one Archer missile. Previously it's taken at least 3 MAC shots and hundreds of missiles to do such a thing.

I doubt those ships are operating at peak capacity.

It's shields were down, and I don't think that was an Archer missile either. The weapon used according to FuD's page on Halopedia was a Hyperion nuclear missile.

Posted by: Quantam
No, only the Chief could actually reawaken the Didact/open Requiem if the Librarian knows what she is talking about.

Remember the Bestarium (spelling?), guys? Read it. See how the classify the Chief and a regular human differently.

Chief was classified as the exclusive Reclaimer as far as I know.

He was classified as a Reclaimer.

  • 11.18.2012 11:42 AM PDT

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Posted by: the real Janaka
Posted by: roraj 196
Posted by: lime013
The Storm didn't seem to have much of a purpose in this game.

It added necessary variety; I certainly didn't want to be fighting just 3 enemy archetypes the whole game.
Who said that there would only be three enemy types if the Storm weren't there?

No one, I'm assuming. If there were more than 3 Promethean archetypes, why not include them in the game?
Because there were Storm aliens. :PBesides, the Covenant operate/play differently to the Prometheans, so whichever way you look at it, they added variety.Before Reach we only fought Elites for one and a half out of four games. The trilogy's organic storyline defined what one could expect as an enemy e.i more than just Elites as the main enemy.

During and after Halo 3, one of the main complaints people had about the campaign/story was that the Elites--the most exciting enemy to fight--no longer was the main enemy. Bungie had in many ways shot themselves in the foot by aiming the story towards a setting where they no longer were interested in wiping out humanity. (If anything, Bungie should have postponed the Great Schism towards the end of the trilogy).

By this time the Elites had become synonymous with the main enemy in Halo as a franchise. That's one of the main reasons Reach was chosen as a setting for a new Halo game. But you already know that. What I'm trying to say is that many aren't convinced that including the Storm was relevant. One could just as well say that one missed the Flood or the Brutes too, only that such a statement wouldn't resonate with popular demand; which is the primery reason for why the Storm was introduced.
Outside of their super simple premis of being on Requiem, they have no purpose. They could just as well be allies (which is what many thought they would be), and they could just as well have been left alone to stabilise their empire (or whatever it is they would have). I'm playing a bit of a devil's advocate here, but you get what I mean.

There could just as well have been Sangheili Prometheans (I suggested Forerunner cloned Elites on this very forum half jokingly, years ago), or Promatheans that moved like them just for gameplay purposes.

What do you think will happen once the Storm has been forced to settle? How would one be able to fight Elites then?

[Edited on 11.18.2012 12:07 PM PST]

  • 11.18.2012 11:58 AM PDT


Posted by: Quantam

Posted by: Wolverfrog

Posted by: Sliding Ghost
The advent of the Chief gave them the opportunity to enter, just like how his button pushing woke the Didact. It's all Chief's fault!


The Infinity was going to arrive sooner or later anyway and would have probably awoken the Didact iself, it found co-ordinates for Requiem. Mendicant Bias sent John there first because he's the best, was engineered for greatness 100,000 years ago and had the greatest chance of killing the Didact.

No, only the Chief could actually reawaken the Didact/open Requiem if the Librarian knows what she is talking about.

Remember the Bestarium (spelling?), guys? Read it. See how the classify the Chief and a regular human differently.

Chief was classified as the exclusive Reclaimer as far as I know.


Nope. Johnson and Miranda were called Reclaimers by 343 GS. Mendicant Bias referred to every human on Harvest as Reclaimers. And there are countless other instances in the series where people who aren't John have been called Reclaimer. Even in Halo 4.

Cortana: It's the symbol for Reclaimer
John: Humanity.

Note that he doesn't say 'ooh, that's me!' Humanity are the Reclaimers. The two buttons which opened the Didact's Cryptum bore Reclaimer symbols on them.

Any Tom, Dick or Harry could have let him free.

  • 11.18.2012 1:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: GhostLink2401
That seems like a gaping flaw in security.


It has been you know thousands of years- things do break.
forerunners design their technology to last. I doubt they would design the planet to break after it opened for the first time in 100,000 years.


i mean, nearly everything else relating to forerunners is still running as if it were brand new.


Containment on some of the Halo rings failed, communications failed, etc, etc.

  • 11.18.2012 4:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Honestly it sounds like the UNSC LET the covenant have Reqiuem for sixth months for some reason.


UNSC chose to stay at Earth for 6 months before the Spartan Ops Campaign.

In that time, I doubt Storm had much to contend with.

  • 11.18.2012 5:36 PM PDT

Posted by: AngryBrute1
Oh yeah, since somebody does not believe what YOU believe; that makes us vapid...
I cannot grasp that what you call "Something happened to nothing, and that nothing became something, and it was smaller than than a period."

I have no idea why, so you might just be overthinking it.

  • 11.18.2012 7:02 PM PDT


Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: TedToaster22
Chief was able to take out a Covenant Cruiser with one Archer missile. Previously it's taken at least 3 MAC shots and hundreds of missiles to do such a thing.

I doubt those ships are operating at peak capacity.

It's shields were down, and I don't think that was an Archer missile either. The weapon used according to FuD's page on Halopedia was a Hyperion nuclear missile.

Did they have a source for that? It's the first I've heard of it.

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Posted by: Wolverfrog
Any Tom, Dick or Harry could have let him free.
Not Johnson. He's immune to deceit and always prepared. :P

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Posted by: TedToaster22

Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: TedToaster22
Chief was able to take out a Covenant Cruiser with one Archer missile. Previously it's taken at least 3 MAC shots and hundreds of missiles to do such a thing.

I doubt those ships are operating at peak capacity.

It's shields were down, and I don't think that was an Archer missile either. The weapon used according to FuD's page on Halopedia was a Hyperion nuclear missile.

Did they have a source for that? It's the first I've heard of it.


Cortana. Says. It. In. Game.

  • 11.18.2012 11:35 PM PDT


Posted by: ErranInfigo

Posted by: TedToaster22

Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: TedToaster22
Chief was able to take out a Covenant Cruiser with one Archer missile. Previously it's taken at least 3 MAC shots and hundreds of missiles to do such a thing.

I doubt those ships are operating at peak capacity.

It's shields were down, and I don't think that was an Archer missile either. The weapon used according to FuD's page on Halopedia was a Hyperion nuclear missile.

Did they have a source for that? It's the first I've heard of it.


Cortana. Says. It. In. Game.

She. Just. Says. Missile. Dumbass.

  • 11.19.2012 7:01 AM PDT


Posted by: TedToaster22

Posted by: ErranInfigo

Posted by: TedToaster22

Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: TedToaster22
Chief was able to take out a Covenant Cruiser with one Archer missile. Previously it's taken at least 3 MAC shots and hundreds of missiles to do such a thing.

I doubt those ships are operating at peak capacity.

It's shields were down, and I don't think that was an Archer missile either. The weapon used according to FuD's page on Halopedia was a Hyperion nuclear missile.

Did they have a source for that? It's the first I've heard of it.


Cortana. Says. It. In. Game.

She. Just. Says. Missile. Dumbass.


It definitely says Hyperion somewhere, I think right before it cuts to the elevator sequence.

  • 11.19.2012 9:08 AM PDT


Posted by: TedToaster22

Posted by: ErranInfigo

Posted by: TedToaster22

Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: TedToaster22
Chief was able to take out a Covenant Cruiser with one Archer missile. Previously it's taken at least 3 MAC shots and hundreds of missiles to do such a thing.

I doubt those ships are operating at peak capacity.

It's shields were down, and I don't think that was an Archer missile either. The weapon used according to FuD's page on Halopedia was a Hyperion nuclear missile.

Did they have a source for that? It's the first I've heard of it.


Cortana. Says. It. In. Game.

She. Just. Says. Missile. Dumbass.


Actually, she specifies it as a Hyperion-class missile when you first open the blast shields and see the Covenant fleet outside the Dawn, before you get in the lift.

Dumbass.

  • 11.19.2012 10:26 AM PDT

Where are you guys getting this much info from.

  • 11.19.2012 12:56 PM PDT


Posted by: CBWade16
Where are you guys getting this much info from.


We make it up.

  • 11.19.2012 12:58 PM PDT

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