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Subject: Spartan Ops Ep. 3

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Posted by: the real Janaka
Posted by: MaxRealflugel
Do you watch/read Game of Thrones and complain about the politics?
No, because that's what Game of Thrones is about. Halo is about the action-adventure side of a war between Humanity and The Covenant in a world that is defined by the actions of Forerunner and Flood. Is Halo supposed to continue after whatever climax the sixth game has to offer as a deep, action free, drama just because there aren't any conflicts?

If there is no action, jump to where there is action, jump between the high notes/high lights of the one universe defining story line, don't dilute and ware out the experience with petty squabble. Don't look for excuses to trip, don't turn it from a neat and highly qualitative little package to a loosely wrapped doubtfull bundle.

There isn't a war on at the moment. Not a formal one, anyway. So, like real life, things develop and evolve on the political front.As I wrote, the resolution of the narrative as increased. It's like a graph. You have the high notes and you have the curves between them, the lower it gets, the less important it is. Don't wear it thin by wasting time down there.When 'war' breaks out again, you'll be able to breathe a sigh of relief, as the politics will most likely take a step back.

But let's jump back to the crux of this argument/opinion. The Halo universe is vast, full of opinions, viewpoints and secrets. There may be something that we know nothing about that will provide greater clarity in the future, and we'll see Halsey put back on her scientific throne and a lot of apologies offered.

We don't know everything. Yet.
I know one thing, and it is that this clarity is not the same answer as the one I was promised back when I tried to unravel the mysteries CE, Iris, AdjutantReflex, and Halo 3 teased me with, it is a reimagined, heavily retconed one, with an entirely different pace and resolution. 343i are teasing me with the carrot and making me walk those extra miles (that did not exist in the past), which are just making this trip tedious.

I think you're being a bit naive here, seeing it from far too positive angle. Do you really wan't Halo to become such a thoroughly--to the point of mundanity--described regularly occurring science fiction franshise that's so oftenly shown that it wears off its glow? Again, that's why I brought it up in this thread. Because evidently 343i believes that Spartan Ops is sufficient enough in quality to tell a story in the Haloverse.

One can tell all kinds of stories in most universes, but that doesn't mean that one should. A franchise is not bound to be an alternative universe in which one depicts everything. Halo most certainly wasn't, it was a slice/thread of a story, and I'll stick with that it shouldn't be anything more. Expanding it just ruins it as a whole. Otherwise, where's the human civilian side, I want a trilogy about that. What do the poets say of the war?

We'll see what everyone feels in ten years...Posted by: SOME cGUY789Oh, I totally agree, Chief too should be set on trial for the ODSTs that he accidentally killed.
Uhh im sory but the thing you just described, the alternate universe is what i wanted all along, i want Halo to be an actual universe, with an actual history, actual politics and all the cake it can get, i want it to become a huge and complex universe, you might not like it, but believe it or not i want Halo to become a Game of thrones, Star wars etc... just because you cant enjoy it doesnt mean there are no people who enjoy it or that Spartan Ops is a all time low for the series, it is actually quite an up from the old Halo with it's daring plotholes and contradictions.

  • 11.20.2012 11:55 AM PDT

As somebody said to me in a xbox party. You cannot have the story that explores the "moral side" of things, without showing both ends. Traviss said she'd give an unbiased book IIRC, and then we got books that show only one viewpoint and hardly ever (if at all) the opposite, despite having great chances to do so. Raia and Naomi could've been used to show a pro-peace for good and a pro-halsey viewpoint, even if other characters don't accept those bits. It'd be more interesting to have Vaz hear the bad AND good parts of the program and decide for himself.

Anyway, Spartan ops episode 3 the CGI is fairly good, even if the story bit is a little blah. The 'crimson team' side of the story is utterly =_= and starting to kill my suspension of disbelief.

  • 11.20.2012 11:56 AM PDT


Posted by: Ds2vet FL...Sorry I was kinda sleepy when I wrote the post you replying to nothing I said even really was writen how I wanted it I don't now why I posted it like that. But anyway I completely understand your first post, I think all individuals involved should be punished were part of the spratan projects origins. However In-Universe Mendez sort-of disappears afer Glasslands and he's not in the picture right now. Form what Kilo-5 seen they only know the one who did the gathering and augementions for the spartans not those who trained them. But Mendez did willingly train child soldier's and if evidence for it could be found he should be punished for it. And Parangosky, Parangosky is the worse she didn't only approve the spartan program but also ordered the deaths and imprisionment of soldiers and civilians she believed knew too much.

I also know that Spartan project was funded by the UNSC, she was kidnapping them with the help of Keyes. And following orders has no bearing on what i'm talking about in war if your ordered to kill a civilian...That's a war crime you will end up punished if it gets out.

[Edited on 11.20.2012 12:09 PM PST]

  • 11.20.2012 12:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: fsabran
Uhh im sory but the thing you just described, the alternate universe is what i wanted all along, i want Halo to be an actual universe, with an actual history, actual politics and all the cake it can get, i want it to become a huge and complex universe, you might not like it, but believe it or not i want Halo to become a Game of thrones, Star wars etc... just because you cant enjoy it doesnt mean there are no people who enjoy it or that Spartan Ops is a all time low for the series, it is actually quite an up from the old Halo with it's daring plotholes and contradictions.
Let's turn the tables just for arguments sake. Here we go:

Just becasue you can't enjoy Halo as it once was, doesn't mean that it should change to accommodate your taste, push aside those who liked it the way it was.

I've been with Halo since it was first announced. Why am I to step aside just because some people like it another way?

Care to justify why it should?

[Edited on 11.20.2012 12:12 PM PST]

  • 11.20.2012 12:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
As somebody said to me in a xbox party. You cannot have the story that explores the "moral side" of things, without showing both ends. Traviss said she'd give an unbiased book IIRC, and then we got books that show only one viewpoint and hardly ever (if at all) the opposite, despite having great chances to do so. Raia and Naomi could've been used to show a pro-peace for good and a pro-halsey viewpoint, even if other characters don't accept those bits. It'd be more interesting to have Vaz hear the bad AND good parts of the program and decide for himself.

Anyway, Spartan ops episode 3 the CGI is fairly good, even if the story bit is a little blah. The 'crimson team' side of the story is utterly =_= and starting to kill my suspension of disbelief.


Hear, Hear. Thursday war was the first Halo novel I didnt buy and read. Glasslands was so blatantly biased against a character that I could barely stomach to finish it. If it had some counter opinions and pro Halsey rhetoric to balance it out then I wouldnt have an argument right now. Although i'd still be pissed about a few other things wrong with this novel, and subsequently where Halo is heading because of it, (ie the elites, brutes etc) but I wouldnt nearly be raging about it like I am now.

  • 11.20.2012 12:11 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
As somebody said to me in a xbox party. You cannot have the story that explores the "moral side" of things, without showing both ends. Traviss said she'd give an unbiased book IIRC, and then we got books that show only one viewpoint and hardly ever (if at all) the opposite, despite having great chances to do so. Raia and Naomi could've been used to show a pro-peace for good and a pro-halsey viewpoint, even if other characters don't accept those bits. It'd be more interesting to have Vaz hear the bad AND good parts of the program and decide for himself.

Anyway, Spartan ops episode 3 the CGI is fairly good, even if the story bit is a little blah. The 'crimson team' side of the story is utterly =_= and starting to kill my suspension of disbelief.


In my mind the story should'nt be focused on the spartans shown, in the videos.It should've been focused on Crimson but regardless they need to add a lot more dialogue and story in the missions for Spratan Ops to feel like...well a story. Right now it feels like a firefight lite with a background as to why im fighting where I am.

[Edited on 11.20.2012 12:14 PM PST]

  • 11.20.2012 12:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: fsabran
Uhh im sory but the thing you just described, the alternate universe is what i wanted all along,

I question how you could wish it to be something else rather than just simply not caring about it. How many other fictional universes that don't strike your fancy just now do you wish were more like GoT's so that you can enjoy them? I'd wager not many, because you just don't care for them. You probably don't even care that you don't enjoy them.

With Halo, the fact that you are still here and have been here suggests to me that there is something distinct from GoT that you like in Halo. Otherwise, if you did care that you did not like it, then why would you tolerate it? The fact that you are trying to say that you care that Halo isn't what you want suggests to me that in fact that it is and that you are perhaps just fishing for reasons to justify this, because like I said, you probably wouldn't care if you didn't care for it.

Posted by: fsabran
i want Halo to be an actual universe, with an actual history, actual politics and all the cake it can get, i want it to become a huge and complex universe,

Implying it wasn't already.

Sure it ain't no Foundation, but it meets those qualifiers competently in my opinion.

Posted by: fsabran
you might not like it, but believe it or not i want Halo to become a Game of thrones, Star wars etc... just because you cant enjoy it doesnt mean there are no people who enjoy it or that Spartan Ops is a all time low for the series, it is actually quite an up from the old Halo with it's daring plotholes and contradictions.

If I reversed that argument into making GoT a happy story where everyone gets along and resolves their issues over a cup of tea, how would you feel?

  • 11.20.2012 12:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: anton1792
I think you got what i was trying to say the wrong way, i always liked Halo i just like it more now, you see it's not that i dont like the more closed down and simplistic Halo, it's just that i like it better this way, for me the more complex the better (not always obviously). The reaso i made that statement is because you and Janka were saying that this is a bastardization of the Halo we knew and while that may be true to some, to others it's not, so what about we make a deal? you people stay with the Original trilogy and forget that 343I ever hapened and the people who like the new direction staywith it, also, and this one i wont let down, you cant complain about the new Halo being to much space magic and -blam!- because all of the actual believable stuf in Halo went rigth out the window with the NOVA bomb.

  • 11.20.2012 12:32 PM PDT


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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
As somebody said to me in a xbox party. You cannot have the story that explores the "moral side" of things, without showing both ends. Traviss said she'd give an unbiased book IIRC, and then we got books that show only one viewpoint and hardly ever (if at all) the opposite, despite having great chances to do so. Raia and Naomi could've been used to show a pro-peace for good and a pro-halsey viewpoint, even if other characters don't accept those bits. It'd be more interesting to have Vaz hear the bad AND good parts of the program and decide for himself.

Anyway, Spartan ops episode 3 the CGI is fairly good, even if the story bit is a little blah. The 'crimson team' side of the story is utterly =_= and starting to kill my suspension of disbelief.


In my mind the story should'nt be focused on the spartans shown, in the videos.It should've been focused on Crimson but regardless they need to add a lot more dialogue and story in the missions for Spratan Ops to feel like...well a story. Right now it feels like a firefight lite with a background as to why im fighting where I am.


My issues is A: the reused campaign areas. 343 said they weren't doing this.
B: How in episode 2, they tended to spawn a swarm of enemies right ontop of you. Episode 3 seems to kick it up a notch.
C: The fact episode 2 and 3 have us reclaiming areas. AGAIN.

episode 1 we clear an area that was giving marines trouble. Episode 2 we get shot down by entrenched covenant with AA IN THE EXACT SAME SPOT.

Episode 1 we clear a staging area in the opening.
Episode 3 we go back to it, only now it's not a UNSC captured camp, it's a -blam!- depot of the guy's stolen tech and gear. He sure set it up like a UNSC camp.

Episode 2 we clear a group of covenant squatters with AA guns from the gate.
Episode 3 the named elite is killed there, it's again, a fortified covenant spot.

  • 11.20.2012 12:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: MaxRealflugel
And Cortana isn't dead. In fact, she far more powerful now than she's ever been.

Who needs a datachip when you've got Slipspace supporting your matrix?

Source? Last time I checked, Cortana said she left enough of herself down on the Didact's ship to get Chief out before it was completely destroyed by a nuke. Did I miss some crucial piece of dialogue that said Cirtana survived?

  • 11.20.2012 12:35 PM PDT

So is the campaign called Halo:Infinity now hmmm

  • 11.20.2012 12:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: fsabran

Posted by: anton1792
I think you got what i was trying to say the wrong way, i always liked Halo i just like it more now, you see it's not that i dont like the more closed down and simplistic Halo, it's just that i like it better this way, for me the more complex the better (not always obviously). The reaso i made that statement is because you and Janka were saying that this is a bastardization of the Halo we knew and while that may be true to some, to others it's not, so what about we make a deal? you people stay with the Original trilogy and forget that 343I ever hapened and the people who like the new direction staywith it, also, and this one i wont let down, you cant complain about the new Halo being to much space magic and -blam!- because all of the actual believable stuf in Halo went rigth out the window with the NOVA bomb.


I dont come down on this one way or the other. I like traditional Halo, always have. But I also understand that new content and themes have to be introduced in order to keep it alive (just not at the expense of creating an entirely new game/story masquerading as Halo in name only). This is a double edged plasma sword... I only felt compelled to comment bc I lolled at your thinly veiled attempt to tell those two to live in "Halo"s past while you enjoy the new direction Halo is going into without any input from them whatsoever.

  • 11.20.2012 12:46 PM PDT


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Posted by: MaxRealflugel
And Cortana isn't dead. In fact, she far more powerful now than she's ever been.

Who needs a datachip when you've got Slipspace supporting your matrix?

Source? Last time I checked, Cortana said she left enough of herself down on the Didact's ship to get Chief out before it was completely destroyed by a nuke. Did I miss some crucial piece of dialogue that said Cirtana survived?


I think he's just quoting star wars.

  • 11.20.2012 12:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: fsabran
Posted by: anton1792
I think you got what i was trying to say the wrong way, i always liked Halo i just like it more now, you see it's not that i dont like the more closed down and simplistic Halo, it's just that i like it better this way, for me the more complex the better (not always obviously). The reaso i made that statement is because you and Janka were saying that this is a bastardization of the Halo we knew and while that may be true to some, to others it's not, so what about we make a deal? you people stay with the Original trilogy and forget that 343I ever hapened and the people who like the new direction staywith it, also, and this one i wont let down, you cant complain about the new Halo being to much space magic and -blam!- because all of the actual believable stuf in Halo went rigth out the window with the NOVA bomb.
If you convince 343i to make it an official differentiation, then yes.

It honestly feels like a horde of knee-high, Jar Jar loving, super excited and giggling toddlers swarmed the room and piled up hugging my legs and reaching for my Halo figurines.

I simply do not know how it happened (who opened the doors?!), and I feel that if I struggle, I'll hurt someone, and if I don't give them my figurines, they'll start to cry. Then miss 343i gives me the stare, and I have to pry open my very own fingers and let Arby and Chief fall down into the chaos.

  • 11.20.2012 12:48 PM PDT

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Praisers are going to praise.

The Bungie Forums are what keeps my mind sharp and my fingers active, between writing my own movie scripts, drawing, and studying industrial design. At the moment I'm working on miniatures for a short movie that I'll hopefully be able to film once I've saved up for a camera... That's me, with the mug, trying to have a conversation with Konoko.

Posted by: Ds2vet FL
But I also understand that new content and themes have to be introduced in order to keep it alive
First of all, Halo had enough threads to spawn about three pieces of media by the time Halo 3 ended, without comming up with anything new.

Seconly, why should it survive if the only way it could was through a Frankenstein's monster kind of way? Why not let it die in peace? (Not diminish the entire franchise).

Thirdly, it truly is an unhealthy misconception that a franchise must renew/redefine/reimagine itself in order to stay alive, it sad how many seem to think it a fact.

  • 11.20.2012 12:58 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: SOME cGUY789

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
As somebody said to me in a xbox party. You cannot have the story that explores the "moral side" of things, without showing both ends. Traviss said she'd give an unbiased book IIRC, and then we got books that show only one viewpoint and hardly ever (if at all) the opposite, despite having great chances to do so. Raia and Naomi could've been used to show a pro-peace for good and a pro-halsey viewpoint, even if other characters don't accept those bits. It'd be more interesting to have Vaz hear the bad AND good parts of the program and decide for himself.

Anyway, Spartan ops episode 3 the CGI is fairly good, even if the story bit is a little blah. The 'crimson team' side of the story is utterly =_= and starting to kill my suspension of disbelief.


In my mind the story should'nt be focused on the spartans shown, in the videos.It should've been focused on Crimson but regardless they need to add a lot more dialogue and story in the missions for Spratan Ops to feel like...well a story. Right now it feels like a firefight lite with a background as to why im fighting where I am.


My issues is A: the reused campaign areas. 343 said they weren't doing this.
B: How in episode 2, they tended to spawn a swarm of enemies right ontop of you. Episode 3 seems to kick it up a notch.
C: The fact episode 2 and 3 have us reclaiming areas. AGAIN.

episode 1 we clear an area that was giving marines trouble. Episode 2 we get shot down by entrenched covenant with AA IN THE EXACT SAME SPOT.

Episode 1 we clear a staging area in the opening.
Episode 3 we go back to it, only now it's not a UNSC captured camp, it's a -blam!- depot of the guy's stolen tech and gear. He sure set it up like a UNSC camp.

Episode 2 we clear a group of covenant squatters with AA guns from the gate.
Episode 3 the named elite is killed there, it's again, a fortified covenant spot.


Yeah the repeated enviroments irked me as well, but then I realized if they were completely new we would have to download them everytime a new episode is released. They're probably just reusing maps for the simpl fact that most players have no patience. Another fact that I think needs to be changed is respawning, sometimes iv'e noticed enemies happen to get really close to where you spawn. Sometimes if they're Hunters or have fuel rods you can be killed just after respawing, and thats obviously no fun.

[Edited on 11.20.2012 1:03 PM PST]

  • 11.20.2012 1:02 PM PDT


Posted by: SOME cGUY789

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: SOME cGUY789

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
As somebody said to me in a xbox party. You cannot have the story that explores the "moral side" of things, without showing both ends. Traviss said she'd give an unbiased book IIRC, and then we got books that show only one viewpoint and hardly ever (if at all) the opposite, despite having great chances to do so. Raia and Naomi could've been used to show a pro-peace for good and a pro-halsey viewpoint, even if other characters don't accept those bits. It'd be more interesting to have Vaz hear the bad AND good parts of the program and decide for himself.

Anyway, Spartan ops episode 3 the CGI is fairly good, even if the story bit is a little blah. The 'crimson team' side of the story is utterly =_= and starting to kill my suspension of disbelief.


In my mind the story should'nt be focused on the spartans shown, in the videos.It should've been focused on Crimson but regardless they need to add a lot more dialogue and story in the missions for Spratan Ops to feel like...well a story. Right now it feels like a firefight lite with a background as to why im fighting where I am.


My issues is A: the reused campaign areas. 343 said they weren't doing this.
B: How in episode 2, they tended to spawn a swarm of enemies right ontop of you. Episode 3 seems to kick it up a notch.
C: The fact episode 2 and 3 have us reclaiming areas. AGAIN.

episode 1 we clear an area that was giving marines trouble. Episode 2 we get shot down by entrenched covenant with AA IN THE EXACT SAME SPOT.

Episode 1 we clear a staging area in the opening.
Episode 3 we go back to it, only now it's not a UNSC captured camp, it's a -blam!- depot of the guy's stolen tech and gear. He sure set it up like a UNSC camp.

Episode 2 we clear a group of covenant squatters with AA guns from the gate.
Episode 3 the named elite is killed there, it's again, a fortified covenant spot.


Yeah the repeated enviroments irked me as well, but then I realized if they were completely new we would have to download them everytime a new episode is released. They're probably just reusing maps for the simpl fact that most players have no patience. Another fact that I think needs to be changed is respawning, sometimes iv'e noticed enemies happen to get really close to where you spawn. Sometimes if they're Hunters or have fuel rods you can be killed just after respawing, and thats obviously no fun.


Ugh, and the weapon despawn is WAY to freaking fast. If you die and don't get to your corpse nearly instantly, the gun is gone 90% of the time it feels like.

Episode 3 crimson-team wise at least was better in the fact all five missions actually tied together instead of being random/different firefight matches.

Still feel it probably would've been better to just do fireteam majestic and the CGI for 15-30 minute episodes like a web series or TV show since they manage to do the CGI fairly well.

  • 11.20.2012 1:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: fsabran
you see it's not that i dont like the more closed down and simplistic Halo, it's just that i like it better this way, for me the more complex the better

What is more complex about it now? Before it could be considered to have been painted with very broad strokes of optimism, heroism and romanticism. Now it is just the opposite shade of absolute colour; painted in broad strokes of pessimism, cynicism and debasement. I don't see how that's more intrinsically complex though over some balance. I'd actually say that it was always balanced before rather than being broadly optimistic and romanticised, but now it has just plunged into the deep end.

Posted by: fsabran
The reaso i made that statement is because you and Janka were saying that this is a bastardization of the Halo we knew and while that may be true to some, to others it's not, so what about we make a deal?

At some fundamental level it ceases to be a matter of opinion. If you take the issue of the Elite's in this new canon, they have been made to do a 180 degree on their prior characterization in every qualitative and quantitative standard. This in itself is bad enough, but it also undermines certain aspects of the story (Such as Thel's entire character arc in the trilogy) and affects larger plot points such as the Great Schism. Halo cannot be better off when several of its foundational and defining concepts lie in tatters.

Really, I'm not against change. I'm against these changes. I'm not against introducing new themes, I'm against introducing themes that attack the other fiction and undermine its value.

Posted by: fsabran
you cant complain about the new Halo being to much space magic and -blam!- because all of the actual believable stuf in Halo went rigth out the window with the NOVA bomb.

It went out the window in the first game with the Halo rings, which means that this was never an issue.

  • 11.20.2012 1:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: fsabran
you see it's not that i dont like the more closed down and simplistic Halo, it's just that i like it better this way, for me the more complex the better

What is more complex about it now? Before it could be considered to have been painted with very broad strokes of optimism, heroism and romanticism. Now it is just the opposite shade of absolute colour; painted in broad strokes of pessimism, cynicism and debasement. I don't see how that's more intrinsically complex though over some balance. I'd actually say that it was always balanced before rather than being broadly optimistic and romanticised, but now it has just plunged into the deep end.

Posted by: fsabran
The reaso i made that statement is because you and Janka were saying that this is a bastardization of the Halo we knew and while that may be true to some, to others it's not, so what about we make a deal?

At some fundamental level it ceases to be a matter of opinion. If you take the issue of the Elite's in this new canon, they have been made to do a 180 degree on their prior characterization in every qualitative and quantitative standard. This in itself is bad enough, but it also undermines certain aspects of the story (Such as Thel's entire character arc in the trilogy) and affects larger plot points such as the Great Schism. Halo cannot be better off when several of its foundational and defining concepts lie in tatters.

Really, I'm not against change. I'm against these changes. I'm not against introducing new themes, I'm against introducing themes that attack the other fiction and undermine its value.

Posted by: fsabran
you cant complain about the new Halo being to much space magic and -blam!- because all of the actual believable stuf in Halo went rigth out the window with the NOVA bomb.

It went out the window in the first game with the Halo rings, which means that this was never an issue.
Sory i cant actualy discus things right right now because i am very busy but to sum it up.
1- I was talking about Janka's statement that Spartan Ops is useles because it's not about a main story ark or something,now that is wrong because as long as it's done right than any new ficion is welcome in my opinion.
2-I agree with you but it is still not clear if the storm avtualy won or not as we have been over quite some times, especialy now that Ep. 3 refers as Barla Vong(?) as a terrorist and not a military lider or something more oficial.
3-We could acept the Rings because they were foreruners creations so it's aceptable but the UNSC was suposed to be at least grounded on reality.

  • 11.20.2012 1:27 PM PDT

No, I'm not quoting Star Wars.

Let's just say that Halsey's Slipspace experiment was more fruitful than a lot of people realise.

  • 11.20.2012 1:28 PM PDT


Posted by: MaxRealflugel
No, I'm not quoting Star Wars.

Let's just say that Halsey's Slipspace experiment was more fruitful than a lot of people realise.


Do provide proof to back up that claim.

  • 11.20.2012 2:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: goldhawk
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Posted by: MaxRealflugel
No, I'm not quoting Star Wars.

Let's just say that Halsey's Slipspace experiment was more fruitful than a lot of people realise.

Then you won't mind me asking for proof, will you?

  • 11.20.2012 2:36 PM PDT

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Praisers are going to praise.

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Hold on.. When exactly did Halsey make the Infinity? It must have been after she left Onyx right, in which case it must have been buildt within two years? Anyone recall exactly what Cortana said about it?

  • 11.20.2012 3:33 PM PDT

I don't have any proof. I just know Halo really well, and how it will turn out.

Halo 5 will reveal all.

The clues are there. And the path has already been laid. It was laid quite a while ago. Expect Blue Team at some point, Cortana and Thel to make an appearance later on in the trilogy.

Of course, this is just my theory. But in case you doubt my abilities I did predict the following:

Geas
UNSC Infinity
The Master Chief's change in attitude.
An ancient evil.

All were predicted whilst Bungie still made Halo.

Whether you still believe me or not is entirely up to you...

[Edited on 11.20.2012 3:58 PM PST]

  • 11.20.2012 3:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: MaxRealflugel
I don't have any proof. I just know Halo really well, and how it will turn out.

Halo 5 will reveal all.

The clues are there. And the path has already been laid. It was laid quite a while ago. Expect Blue Team at some point, Cortana and Thel to make an appearance later on in the trilogy.

Of course, this is just my theory. But in case you doubt my abilities I did predict the following:

Geas
UNSC Infinity
The Master Chief's change in attitude.
An ancient evil.

All were predicted whilst Bungie still made Halo.

Whether you still believe me or not is entirely up to you...


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  • 11.20.2012 4:19 PM PDT