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Subject: there could be other spartans and here is why.(theory)
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When Reach was destroyed all the spartans were wasted except the MC. Earth knew that Reach fell because one of the generals had escaped and told that all of Reach was gone and said the spartans were lost.
Yet in halo 2 the MC gets a new armor on earth and that does not make sense because they thougth all the spartans were gone. Moreover, they still have a new armor for the chief. The only way that could be is if they were making spartans on earth also. I mean it only makes sense for the chief to get new armor. So what do you guys think?

  • 07.01.2006 8:13 PM PDT
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you idiot, read the books there are about 3 maybe four spartans left. somthing like that

  • 07.01.2006 8:15 PM PDT
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This is most likely the most over-stretched subject. We have discussed about other Spartans how many times? Please, go away.

  • 07.01.2006 8:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: Thing1
you idiot, read the books there are about 3 maybe four spartans left. somthing like that


He is correct. Between the first and second game (First Strike) the Master Chief heads back to Reach and finds a few survivors (I don't have access to the book at the moment so I can't find out how many, about 3-5 I think). On one of the last few pages before the Epilogue all of the Spartans sit at the command deck, so you can get the full list right there.

  • 07.01.2006 8:19 PM PDT

Posted by: Ada Astra
gruntfarmer is a cheeseburger.

Eight out of every six people are Chinese.

or....the armor could have already been in the final stages of developing and they just gave the chief his.

  • 07.01.2006 8:24 PM PDT
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You people do not think at all. The books do not follow the game as u know or there would have been the other 3 spartans!!! But there isn't now is there?
so how did the MC get the armor upgrade if earth thought there were no spartans left?

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Posted by: whiteultraelite8
You people do not think at all. The books do not follow the game as u know or there would have been the other 3 spartans!!! But there isn't now is there?


Try actually reading the other posts. I already mentioned the reason for this, but here it is again, just for you.

There aren't other Spartans in the game because that would mess up playability. Just like if they had Zuka Zamamee in the first game, that would've screwed it up. That would be easy, just through a few grenades on him after he looks dead, then it would be cheating to bring him back. So basically, the games only have as much of the story as is required to beat it.

[Edited on 7/1/2006]

  • 07.01.2006 8:30 PM PDT
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Posted by: whiteultraelite8
You people do not think at all.


That is the pot calling the kettle black. The books are the canon to the Halo games. I have a feeling that if I see one more person claiming that the books are unrelated, my head is going to explode.

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Posted by: whiteultraelite8
You people do not think at all. The books do not follow the game as u know or there would have been the other 3 spartans!!! But there isn't now is there?
so how did the MC get the armor upgrade if earth thought there were no spartans left?


...then the whole "admiral escaping" thing isn't to be trusted for the games either, so there goes your whole subject/theory/idea/question thingy

and it wasn't an admiral, it was an ONI officer

  • 07.01.2006 8:33 PM PDT
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Hmm.. you know if all spartans are dead, why dont they give the remaining suits to generals or marines, i mean there highly developed pieces of equipment, why put them to waste?

  • 07.01.2006 8:35 PM PDT
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quite right. just try to read other forums before creating iffy ides

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Posted by: The Misfit
Hmm.. you know if all spartans are dead, why dont they give the remaining suits to generals or marines, i mean there highly developed pieces of equipment, why put them to waste?


because in the books the spartans are trained from an early age to fight and later are strong enough to use the suits, a regular soldier or admiral /general. couldnt work the suit (in a sense)

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Posted by: whiteultraelite8
When Reach was destroyed all the spartans were wasted except the MC. Earth knew that Reach fell because one of the generals had escaped and told that all of Reach was gone and said the spartans were lost.


Almost all of the Spartan IIs were dead. Three managed to survive the fall of Reach and were haeding to Earth at the end of Fist Strike. There were also three who were not on Reach, inlcuding Spartan 062

Yet in halo 2 the MC gets a new armor on earth and that does not make sense because they thougth all the spartans were gone.

They thought all the Spartan IIs were gone. However, several Spartan IIs returned to Earth before Halo 2. And then there are the Spartan IIIs...

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im scimming through "First Strike" and it mentions SPARTANs- Fred, Kelly, Joshua, Grace, Linda, if she's still alive... now im tired of scimming

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Posted by: The Misfit
Hmm.. you know if all spartans are dead, why dont they give the remaining suits to generals or marines, i mean there highly developed pieces of equipment, why put them to waste?


they tried that when they first developed the suit. it crushed the marine alive. the only people who can physically use them are the genetically engineered spartans.

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soo much for this failing theory. i just thought since the chief got the upgrade that earth must have been making spartans thats all. I just want there to be other spartans since this is earths last stand. well sorry for wasting space.

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Posted by: psycho_117
im scimming through "First Strike" and it mentions SPARTANs- Fred, Kelly, Joshua, Grace, Linda, if she's still alive... now im tired of scimming


i think joshua died in a banshee or somthing

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in the 1st book, a marine wearing the spartan suit injured himself because he didnt have the training or experience to handle the suit's capabilities

  • 07.01.2006 8:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: psycho_117
im scimming through "First Strike" and it mentions SPARTANs- Fred, Kelly, Joshua, Grace, Linda, if she's still alive... now im tired of scimming


Joshua died when a banshee he was is was shot down. Grace died on the Unyielding Hierophant when Brutes were first encountered.

  • 07.01.2006 8:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: Thing1
you idiot, read the books there are about 3 maybe four spartans left. somthing like that



Not to mention the 3 in the Fall of Reach who were too far away to come for the mission where most of the Spartans died.

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Posted by: Thing1
Posted by: psycho_117
im scimming through "First Strike" and it mentions SPARTANs- Fred, Kelly, Joshua, Grace, Linda, if she's still alive... now im tired of scimming


i think joshua died in a banshee or somthing


correct, he did, but he didn't say whether they survived or not

the surviving spartans currently are MC, Linda, Fred, Will, and Kelly

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Posted by: The Misfit
Hmm.. you know if all spartans are dead, why dont they give the remaining suits to generals or marines, i mean there highly developed pieces of equipment, why put them to waste?


they tried that when they first developed the suit. it crushed the marine alive. the only people who can physically use them are the genetically engineered spartans.


So why not genetically enhance other people? Lemme guess, the one genius doctor who could complete the process died horribly? Oh boy oh boy.

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Posted by: The Misfit
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Hmm.. you know if all spartans are dead, why dont they give the remaining suits to generals or marines, i mean there highly developed pieces of equipment, why put them to waste?


they tried that when they first developed the suit. it crushed the marine alive. the only people who can physically use them are the genetically engineered spartans.


So why not genetically enhance other people? Lemme guess, the one genius doctor who could complete the process died horribly? Oh boy oh boy.


Nope. But half the people they tried to augment did. That's right, half the Spartan IIs were lost in the operation, more than the Covenant ever killed before Reach, and maybe still more.

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Posted by: The Misfit
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Posted by: The Misfit
Hmm.. you know if all spartans are dead, why dont they give the remaining suits to generals or marines, i mean there highly developed pieces of equipment, why put them to waste?


they tried that when they first developed the suit. it crushed the marine alive. the only people who can physically use them are the genetically engineered spartans.


So why not genetically enhance other people? Lemme guess, the one genius doctor who could complete the process died horribly? Oh boy oh boy.


No the one genius doctor who created them is alive. Dr. Hasley just you know sneaked of with Kelly the other spartan on some secret mission which made a lot of ppl who read first strike confused.

  • 07.01.2006 8:51 PM PDT

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