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Subject: Is the Halo 2 announce trailer a sneak peek at Halo 3?

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Hold your horses, people -- this has to do with Halo 3. And, if my ideas are correct, then we may have seen more of Halo 3 than we thought...

Many people were dissapointed with the Halo 2 announce trailer, and the pre-release hype in general. All the commercials, the promos, the previews -- the entire ad campaign, really -- were based on the idea that the Covenant were about to strike Earth hard, and that the Master Chief was the planet's only hope.

When Halo 2 was released, people everywhere were disgusted that only two levels took place on Earth, and that even then there was no big invasion -- just an accidental discovery. The Covenant had no idea that Earth was the human homeworld. They came with a small fleet that quickly fled. The big battle promised in countless ad blitzes was seen only in the game's penultimate cutscene, when the Master Chief arrives at Earth in Truth's ship.

Now, it is believed by many that Halo 2 was cut short -- that it was supposed to end the series, but that Microsoft forced Bungie to chop off the second half of the game and sell it as Halo 3 for the benefit of the Xbox 360. This would explain the missing vehicles and weapons, the Halo 3 artwork (especially the Ark concept sketches) seen in the Halo 2 behind-the-scenes DVD, and the misleading nature of the ad campaign. If this theory is true, then the events of Halo 3 were originally meant to be the second half of Halo 2.

Now, consider this: what if the Halo 2 ad campaign, including the announce trailer, was already well into production before the choice to split Halo 2 in half was made? If true, then these ads would contain elements of Halo 3, which were supposed to be part of Halo 2 at the time they were made.

If all this is true, then the Halo 2 announce trailer may be a peek at the action to come in Halo 3. Think about it: the events seen in the Halo 3 trailer have been confirmed by Bungie to take place about halfway into the game. So why wouldn't they do the same thing with the Halo 2 trailer? Maybe the epic bombardment of Earth seen there is not misleading hype, but actually a glimpse of the battle that is occurring at the end of Halo 2! It makes sense; at the time the trailer was made, it's possible that that particular battle was only supposed to be about halfway through the game. If Halo 2 was split in two, then that battle and everything following it, including the Ark's discovery, was used to make Halo 3.

So, if my theory is correct, then the events seen in the Halo 2 trailer (the bombing of Earth, the failing defenses, etc.) are actually events that will happen in at the beginning of Halo 3. Heady stuff...

PS: If you want to see this for yourself, here is the Halo 2 announce trailer. As you watch it, imagine that it takes place shortly after Halo 2 ends -- that the Master Chief has caused havoc on Truth's ship and has escaped onto a disabled human vessel. In the meantime, all of the Covenant ships seen at Delta Halo have arrived and are now attacking Earth. So now the Master Chief is diving down onto another Covenant ship to make it to the surface, and to the Ark. It all makes sense now...

[Edited on 7/2/2006]

  • 07.02.2006 2:23 PM PDT
Subject: The Halo 2 announce trailer -- a sneak peek at Halo 3?
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that's some interesting stuff
good thinking

  • 07.02.2006 2:27 PM PDT
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You could be on to something, but I don't think the ad campaigne was created before the game was split in half, or that it was split in half at all. I think that the ad campaigne was misleading because it was giving hints at what Halo3 would contain. The only thing that doesn't fit is that the scenes from the ad campaigne that never made it into halo2 never looked anything like a desert landscape, which is where halo3 supposedly takes place.

  • 07.02.2006 2:29 PM PDT
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good job

  • 07.02.2006 2:30 PM PDT
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We all can hope. I hope H3 has everything they promised us in H2.

  • 07.02.2006 2:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: SpeedyWhoOwnsj00
The only thing that doesn't fit is that the scenes from the ad campaigne that never made it into halo2 never looked anything like a desert landscape, which is where halo3 supposedly takes place.

What scenes are those? If you mean the Earth City environment seen at E3, that was only an early version of New Mombasa.

  • 07.02.2006 2:34 PM PDT
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i never really thought about any thing like that, u could actually be right

  • 07.02.2006 2:35 PM PDT

"You're never gonna fight me, I'll wipe the world away"

This guy might have something because think about it, the Master Chief never fought Brutes in Halo 2 until he got to High Charity which was close to the end of the game but in the trailer they were on earth.

[Edited on 7/2/2006]

  • 07.02.2006 2:41 PM PDT

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If Team Swat became ranked, would there still be no shields?


Amazing!

Posted by: t00fat
We all can hope. I hope H3 has everything they promised us in H2.

Like what, sprinting, more types of Warthogs, ATV and... what? There wasn't a lot they removed that everybody was excited for. Sure, more Warthog types would be cool, but one was a "Jungle hog" and it was only camo. The troop hog would have been cool, but for what game and why remove a normal Warthog or Ghost in favor of that? The snow-hog would've been nice, but how fast would it go? Who knows.

As for the others, they served no purpose on the campaign and were dropped. ATV would've been crap without no firing.

  • 07.02.2006 2:42 PM PDT
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I would like to see some kind of troop carrier.

No ATV.
No other hogs.

I also want the massive battle we were promised.
Only better.

  • 07.02.2006 2:54 PM PDT
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True. Not only am I taking you seriously because you know how to type English, but the H2 special edition DVD says that Halo 2 was cut in a lot of places. It says that there was so much they wanted to tell, but didn't have a chance too.

Nice job.

  • 07.02.2006 2:59 PM PDT

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"heh"

It is true that Halo 2 would end the Halo storyline - Joseph Staten said they had 9 levels which would start you at Earth, bring you out to space, and back to Earth.

It may make sense... but...

  • 07.02.2006 3:07 PM PDT
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Blasphemy! Halo 2 was not cut in half!

  • 07.02.2006 3:11 PM PDT
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thats pretty good thinking there

  • 07.02.2006 3:39 PM PDT
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NO NO NO! I just started watching it, but it cant be, as you are watching it your here Cortanas voice and she sounds normal and is talking to the Marines, At the end of Halo 2 she was left in the clutches of the GraveMind, it cant be because she seems fine to me in the Trailer!!! It doesnt fit

  • 07.02.2006 3:59 PM PDT

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  • 07.02.2006 4:15 PM PDT

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Also, it appears im the only one thats noticed, but that cutscene is just a cinematic from Halo2 but the bomb was replaced by a BR....
If you mean the one where cortana is like "bet you can't stick it" you could be right, but not the one you linked

  • 07.02.2006 4:20 PM PDT
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what about the trailer that has Master Cheif kneeling with 2 SMGs with a fiery atmosphere and destroyed background and with phantoms flying over his head

anyone remember that?

that was probably the trailer that really got me hyped and then let me down considerably because it showed that Earth was severly under attack and many of the earth cities were ablaze

anyone remember this trailer

  • 07.02.2006 4:25 PM PDT
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Well I still doubt that it was cut in half, and proof, well we know cortana is just fine in that trailer, what more is there!

  • 07.02.2006 4:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: X13Classified31X
NO NO NO! I just started watching it, but it cant be, as you are watching it your here Cortanas voice and she sounds normal and is talking to the Marines, At the end of Halo 2 she was left in the clutches of the GraveMind, it cant be because she seems fine to me in the Trailer!!! It doesnt fit


Just because Cortana was left in Gravemind's clutches at the end of Halo 2 doesn't mean she gave up right away...it may have taken a while for her to be overcome by his powers. I'm not saying this kid is right, or that he is wrong, but it is definitely possible. Good thinking kid.

  • 07.02.2006 4:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: X13Classified31X
NO NO NO! I just started watching it, but it cant be, as you are watching it your here Cortanas voice and she sounds normal and is talking to the Marines, At the end of Halo 2 she was left in the clutches of the GraveMind, it cant be because she seems fine to me in the Trailer!!! It doesnt fit


Just because Cortana was left in Gravemind's clutches at the end of Halo 2 doesn't mean she gave up right away...it may have taken a while for her to be overcome by his powers. I'm not saying this kid is right, or that he is wrong, but it is definitely possible. Good thinking kid.


agreed, Bungie did say that the Halo 3 announce trailer was a third through the game, so its possible that Contana becomes crazy a little into the game

and why are there so many pictures for the trailers for Halo 2 that have Master Cheif running through destroyed and on fire areas (on of the trailers featured this)

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  • 07.02.2006 4:28 PM PDT
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kyrios, are . . . you kidding me? It was on the very DVD that came with the release game (special edition), which is also all over the internet. Of course it was cut in half. Did you watch the ending?

[Edited on 7/2/2006]

  • 07.02.2006 4:34 PM PDT

Posted by: X13Classified31X
NO NO NO! I just started watching it, but it cant be, as you are watching it your here Cortanas voice and she sounds normal and is talking to the Marines, At the end of Halo 2 she was left in the clutches of the GraveMind, it cant be because she seems fine to me in the Trailer!!! It doesnt fit


do you always say "NO NO NO!" in your posts? and NO NO NO - she doesnt seem fine in the trailer.

[Edited on 7/2/2006]

  • 07.02.2006 4:37 PM PDT

I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.

I thought of that a long time ago while watching the halo 2 trailer.

  • 07.02.2006 4:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: X13Classified31X
NO NO NO! I just started watching it, but it cant be, as you are watching it your here Cortanas voice and she sounds normal and is talking to the Marines, At the end of Halo 2 she was left in the clutches of the GraveMind, it cant be because she seems fine to me in the Trailer!!! It doesnt fit


do you always say "NO NO NO!" in your posts? and NO NO NO - she doesnt seem fine in the trailer.


As a matter of fact I do! Ive been in the Halo 3 forums all day and Im really irritated, But I dont suppose your gonna come through the screen and beat me to a bloody pulp!

  • 07.02.2006 4:39 PM PDT

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