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Subject: Police Officer Loses Job After Losing Temper.

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Posted by: spartain ken 15

Posted by: TheBestTheyHad
Kid should do as he's told.


Ah yes, lets all always follow what big brother wants.

"Dissension is the greatest form of Patriotism"
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  • 11.26.2012 1:32 PM PDT

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The only thing I can gather from the videos is that the kid is very small for a 15 year old. Looks like a 12 year old at best. I'd assume the kids size relative to the officers , all of which double him or more, makes this look much worse.

  • 11.26.2012 1:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: deltahalo UK
lol no it isn't.
A Police Officer keeps the peace and enforces the law. Individual discipline is not within their realms of responsibility. They can act if a lack of discipline is preventing their legal duty, but they have no right to teach discipline


Enforcing Laws is nearly the same thing as discipline.

Props to him for doing what the lad's failures of parents could not.

  • 11.26.2012 1:32 PM PDT

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lmao, that kid looks short. He should have been no problem, even if he got violent. If words don't work on someone, you're saying the wrong thing, There was no need for such a maneuver, at least not until the teen became violent.

  • 11.26.2012 1:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: spartain ken 15

Posted by: TheBestTheyHad
Kid should do as he's told.


Ah yes, lets all always follow what big brother wants.

"Dissension is the greatest form of Patriotism"
- Thomas Jefferson

Anarchy FTW!
No, that's not what that means.

  • 11.26.2012 1:33 PM PDT

I love how everyone here is standing up for the dick cop. The kid didn't need to be "disciplined", the cop needs to learn some respect.

[Edited on 11.26.2012 1:35 PM PST]

  • 11.26.2012 1:35 PM PDT

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Kid was trying to be a tough guy and disobey a perfectly reasonable order from a higher authority. He's plenty old enough to understand the concept of complying with an officer of the law and the consequences of not doing so. Little degenerate got what he deserved.

Speaking of little... 4'8" at age 15? Jesus.

The officer should have been reprimanded in some way because his use of force was a tad (lifting him off the ground) excessive, but not forced into resignation. If that were my kid acting that way, I would have shook the officer's hand for putting him in his place. Unfortunately, since the officer is being severely punished for this, the kid probably will go on to think he can just keep on being a little jackass and most likely end up being just another crime statistic.

As for the bruised chest and nosebleed, as somebody else ITT already said, poor baby. Who cares? That's what happens when you act like a jackass. Society has seriously gotten too soft and apologetic.

[Edited on 11.26.2012 1:47 PM PST]

  • 11.26.2012 1:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
I love how everyone here is standing up for the dick cop. The kid didn't need to be "disciplined", the cop needs to learn some respect.


Ahah- no.

  • 11.26.2012 1:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: Telec
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Now get in the van.


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Posted by: Sgt Drifter

Posted by: deltahalo UK
lol no it isn't.
A Police Officer keeps the peace and enforces the law. Individual discipline is not within their realms of responsibility. They can act if a lack of discipline is preventing their legal duty, but they have no right to teach discipline


Enforcing Laws is nearly the same thing as discipline.

Props to him for doing what the lad's failures of parents could not.


That refers to, as Plato puts it, the 'social contract' between citizen and state. The Police are merely the enforcers of that, and only when it relates to the breach of that contract. A child refusing to empty his pockets can fall into that, and they have the authority to use force to enforce their authority in that respect, true. When, however, related to anything else, such as teaching discipline - no. All they do is react when shown indiscipline, when that indiscipline relates directly to their authority.
They are reactionary, and have no rights beyond those allocated. Teaching a child a lesson is not one of those rights. You could probably argue that it violates parental sovereignty too.

[Edited on 11.26.2012 1:47 PM PST]

  • 11.26.2012 1:46 PM PDT
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Kid shouldn't have given the cop a reason. It's not that hard to be good.

  • 11.26.2012 1:47 PM PDT

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Good. The fewer cops with a chip on their shoulder roaming the streets, the better.

  • 11.26.2012 1:48 PM PDT

Posted by: Sgt Drifter

Posted by: Garem
I love how everyone here is standing up for the dick cop. The kid didn't need to be "disciplined", the cop needs to learn some respect.


Ahah- no.
?

Yes. The cop blatantly abused his authority. Like cops usually do.

  • 11.26.2012 1:50 PM PDT

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Posted by: deltahalo UK
You could probably argue that it violates parental sovereignty too.


What, a parent's right to a have a muppet running around and doing whatever he pleases and not complying with authority (WHEN that authority is in the right)?

Hah- I don't think so.

It's not exactly teaching discipline- it's using it and having the kid learn the hard way.

If he was going to teach a lesson he'd have gone further. Hell, even teachers can discipline.

  • 11.26.2012 1:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
Posted by: Sgt Drifter

Posted by: Garem
I love how everyone here is standing up for the dick cop. The kid didn't need to be "disciplined", the cop needs to learn some respect.


Ahah- no.
?

Yes. The cop blatantly abused his authority. Like cops usually do.


Congrats, second dumbest thing I have heard all year.

  • 11.26.2012 1:51 PM PDT

so he put the kid into a hammer lock...a very easy and light method of restraint... and got fired for doing his job?

Dafuq.

  • 11.26.2012 1:52 PM PDT

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  • 11.26.2012 1:53 PM PDT
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I've no sympathy for the man. He gave a 15 year old (who wasn't acting dangerously) a bloodied nose and a bruised chest.

  • 11.26.2012 1:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: Snake Plissken
I've no sympathy for the man. He gave a 15 year old (who wasn't acting dangerously) a bloodied nose and a bruised chest.


Oh, c'mon. Let him cry a river. That's nothing.

  • 11.26.2012 1:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: Telec
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Now get in the van.


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Posted by: Sgt Drifter

Posted by: deltahalo UK
You could probably argue that it violates parental sovereignty too.


What, a parent's right to a have a muppet running around and doing whatever he pleases and not complying with authority (WHEN that authority is in the right)?

Hah- I don't think so.

It's not exactly teaching discipline- it's using it and having the kid learn the hard way.

If he was going to teach a lesson he'd have gone further. Hell, even teachers can discipline.


In that only a parent has the right to imbue lessons upon a child, or when someone has the legal right of 'In Loco Parentis', which is why teachers have the right to discipline.
If someone wishes not to comply with the Police, that is their right. The only time the police are able to interject is when that lack of compliance violates a law. In this case the kid probably did do so, but then the Officer reacted with what has been deemed 'excessive force' - thus he doesn't have a job anymore.

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Posted by: Sgt Drifter

Posted by: Snake Plissken
I've no sympathy for the man. He gave a 15 year old (who wasn't acting dangerously) a bloodied nose and a bruised chest.

Oh, c'mon. Let him cry a river. That's nothing.
And he's lucky that it's not, else I'd say he deserves jail time.

  • 11.26.2012 1:55 PM PDT

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The cop had all rights. Typical court system will bend over for a minor. Sad how messed up are system works.

  • 11.26.2012 1:56 PM PDT

Posted by: Sgt Drifter

Posted by: Garem
Posted by: Sgt Drifter

Posted by: Garem
I love how everyone here is standing up for the dick cop. The kid didn't need to be "disciplined", the cop needs to learn some respect.


Ahah- no.
?

Yes. The cop blatantly abused his authority. Like cops usually do.


Congrats, second dumbest thing I have heard all year.
Everyone on this forum always sucks up to cops and the military. It's sad.

Anyway, in my personal experience, cops usually do abuse their power.

  • 11.26.2012 1:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: deltahalo UK

Posted by: Sgt Drifter

Posted by: deltahalo UK
You could probably argue that it violates parental sovereignty too.


What, a parent's right to a have a muppet running around and doing whatever he pleases and not complying with authority (WHEN that authority is in the right)?

Hah- I don't think so.

It's not exactly teaching discipline- it's using it and having the kid learn the hard way.

If he was going to teach a lesson he'd have gone further. Hell, even teachers can discipline.


In that only a parent has the right to imbue lessons upon a child, or when someone has the legal right of 'In Loco Parentis', which is why teachers have the right to discipline.
If someone wishes not to comply with the Police, that is their right. The only time the police are able to interject is when that lack of compliance violates a law. In this case the kid probably did do so, but then the Officer reacted with what has been deemed 'excessive force' - thus he doesn't have a job anymore.


Except that excessive force is case by case and is determined mainly by public outcry, not anything legal.

If this did not get any news, I doubt the officer would have lost his job and at most would have gotten paid leave.

If it was uniform, then yeah- but it's not.

[Edited on 11.26.2012 1:58 PM PST]

  • 11.26.2012 1:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
Posted by: Sgt Drifter

Posted by: Garem
Posted by: Sgt Drifter

Posted by: Garem
I love how everyone here is standing up for the dick cop. The kid didn't need to be "disciplined", the cop needs to learn some respect.


Ahah- no.
?

Yes. The cop blatantly abused his authority. Like cops usually do.


Congrats, second dumbest thing I have heard all year.
Everyone on this forum always sucks up to cops and the military. It's sad.

Anyway, in my personal experience, cops usually do abuse their power.


It's not sucking up- it's pointing out that many people, such as yourself- have issues with authority and somehow conjure these stereotypes that every cop is a bad cop, or even that a majority are.

  • 11.26.2012 1:59 PM PDT

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