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Subject: Let's Be Honest, Xbox Live Gold Has Become a Huge Ripoff...

Religion breeds hate


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Posted by: Phoenix9508
Posted by: Legendary Toilet
Posted by: AcedannyK 7
XBL is awesome. £40 a year is nothing for the entertainment you get.

Yet PSN is free.
I don't believe LIVE should be a paid service, but I gotta play devil's advocate here. By all accounts, PSN is pretty bad compared to LIVE. The one feature I know I couldn't do without is cross-game chat.


And yet you need not pay for the service. You'll have to pay for XBL but not PSN. Even though PSN is -blam!- that doesn't matter cos it doesn't cost anything.
R U dumb? el oh el... That is the reason why people pay for it... because it is better

  • 11.26.2012 3:27 PM PDT

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Xbox live is a waste of money. Sheep gonna sheep.

  • 11.26.2012 3:28 PM PDT

Love your friends, Die laughing.

The only thing that piss me off is the implementation of ads, besides that, xbox live gold is a pretty good service.

  • 11.26.2012 3:32 PM PDT


Posted by: Legendary Toilet

Posted by: AcedannyK 7
XBL is awesome. £40 a year is nothing for the entertainment you get.

Yet PSN is free.
PSN doesn't have halo or skyrim DLC. If you have a job 60 bucks for a year is very cheap and it is worth paying to get things xbox has that PSN doesn't.

[Edited on 11.26.2012 3:39 PM PST]

  • 11.26.2012 3:38 PM PDT

Dating Age

For those looking to vent, get proper advice, or give it to those in need.

XBL: Pay so you can unlock the ability to pay.

Maybe people will start rejecting this ripoff when Microsoft starts locking offline single player content as they've already started with Spartan Ops.

  • 11.26.2012 3:45 PM PDT

Proud member of the Herd


Posted by: mikeman92
I continue to play because I enjoy it

  • 11.26.2012 3:45 PM PDT

List Of Free Services Available On PSN (* Subscription to third party service when required)

Some of these are free optional services that you can try out and if you wish purchase a subscription. NOT LIKE XBOX LIVE you need gold just to access it and a extra subscription on top of that.

Music Unlimited
Video Unlimited
4oD (via link, UK Only)[
ABC iView (via link, Australia only)
Amazon Instant Video (United States only)
Animax (Germany Only)
BBC iPlayer (UK only)
Crackle (USA & Canada)
CinemaNow (USA)
edyViewer (Japan only)
FirstPlay (UK only)
Hulu Plus (USA only)[35]
ITV Player (UK & Ireland Only)
3 Player (Ireland only)
LoveFilm (Europe only)[36]
MLB.tv (United States & Canada only)
MUBI (Europe & Oceania only)[37]
Netflix (North America, Latin America, UK and Ireland and Europe)[38]
NFL Sunday Ticket (North and South America)
NHL GameCenter Live
now TV (application, Hong Kong only)
RTE Player (Ireland worldwide)
SEC Digital Network (worldwide)
Plus7 (via link, Australia only)
TVNZ ondemand (via link, New Zealand only)
VidZone (Europe & Oceania only)[39][40]
VUDU (USA Only)
XOS College Sports (USA Only)[41]
YLE (Finland only)
YouTube

PSN PLUS PAID SERVICE

These include PlayStation Store discounts and free PlayStation Network games and Downloadable Content (DLC), PSone Classics and PlayStation Minis which the user will own for the duration of their subscription as well as themes and avatars which the user can keep after their subscription has lapsed. PlayStation Plus also offers "Full Game Trials" of some PlayStation Network and retail games, allowing the user to download the full game and use it for one hour (the game expires 1 year after download until the trial has commenced, after which, the trial expires 60 minutes after it has been launched from the XMB). Users can later purchase the game and continue their progress (earned trophies are not added to the users PSN profile until the game is purchased).

AND MUCH MORE does your xbox live gold let you choose from a range of free full games to download? NO you cant even play online without a gold.

One thing i give for xbox is the metro UI is far superior then the XMB is my opinion. XMB is simple and bare bones does the job though.

all that doesnt matter dont care what service the xbox live has and what xbox gold gives me which i can get for free anywhere else. The main thing is i want to play online i dont give two craps about the services on each platforms.

PSN gives me the choices but still lets me play online.

XBL gives me the choices only if i pay gold to access them and doesnt let me even play online without gold.









[Edited on 11.26.2012 4:00 PM PST]

  • 11.26.2012 3:57 PM PDT

ONLY service i use on my ps3 console and xbox 360 console is LOVEFILM as i am a custormer with them. If your from the uk you would know this popular streaming and renting service.

The notion here is xbox live service is better...hmm ps3 all can stream the thousands of on demand movies from this service and so can the xbox 360. Only difference is that on PS3 i can organise my rental list and add or remove WHEREAS on xbox 360 you CANT!.

PS3 LOVEFILM service much better then xbox 360. Plus on xbox 360 you need a gold to access it to begin with!

  • 11.26.2012 4:05 PM PDT

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Posted by: A Good Troll
ITT: The OP does not know that the XBox 360 console is a loss leader and Microsoft uses revenue from Live and game sales to make up for development costs.

The point is/was to have sold the XBox 360 for less than it cost to develop and create per unit to makes its price more affordable for more homes, with the understanding that the revenue would be made up for in other areas of the business.

  • 11.26.2012 4:06 PM PDT

I <3 Halo:Reach - amazingly fun and best campaign + amazing Soundtrack
I <3 Halo 3:ODST - best soundtrack + Firefight + Coastal Highway and Mombassa Streets, amazingly unique campaign.
I <3 Halo 3 - best multiplayer levels + Forge + best Custom Games + soundtrack
I <3 Halo 2 - amazing huge fun campaign + soundtrack + Fun multiplayer
I <3 Halo: CE - started it all

I dont really care if they have adds on the dashboard. I honestly dont, and I've been a member for 5 years. I buy Xbox LIVE to play with players online, not to sit on my dashboard.

  • 11.26.2012 4:08 PM PDT


Posted by: ultratog1028
Mine's expiring soon. I've already had questions about this. With all the advertisements, why do we pay? Certainly not for quality of service, since the interface gets clunkier and worse every year.

It's not like subscription apps are free either. I have to pay for Live AND Netflix to watch Netflix on my xbox. Shouldn't just paying for netflix allow that? It allows it on the other consoles.

Well, certainly we sho0uld get DLC at a cheaper price for being members. Wait, same price? Well, there must be some free dlc exclusive to Gold Members. No? Oh wait there is. Thank go- ONLY LIKE 8 FOR GAMES LONG SINCE MADE OBSOLETE!?

Well, er is there first dibs on DLC? No?

I know! We pay for multiplayer, that is free on every other system. Party chat? Skype hasn't cost me yet, and the quality is clearer.

Bigger Friendslist? nope. Still at 100.

I give up. Why do we pay again, if we get little benefits that the other systems offer for free?

See this is why I PC Game now.


The sheeps will still buy. Black Ops 2 free online on ps3. Same game same multiplayer you need to pay to access on xbox 360. Thats xbox most,played game and yet they,dont realise other platforms are doing same thing for free.

  • 11.26.2012 4:26 PM PDT

> Paying to use the internet on your Xbox you already pay for seperately

> 2012

I don't understand why PC games have free connections to dedicated servers, yet consoles have to pay (not included PS Network, which is objectively garbage anyways).

  • 11.27.2012 5:42 AM PDT

<(-_-)> Teh mokey is not amused

I pay for it because its the only way I can play games online. My PC is too old to run games and I don't have a PS3.

  • 11.27.2012 5:48 AM PDT

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mah twitter

60 dollars per year is nothing.

  • 11.27.2012 5:50 AM PDT
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  • 11.27.2012 5:54 AM PDT

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I graduated from high school on June-11-2011. I'm 19 right now. I'm turning 20 in December. I like playing video games, and board games. I like reading Sci-Fi, and World War II novels, and what not.

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This should be locked for spam.

How's it spam?

  • 11.27.2012 5:55 AM PDT

Yeah I'm ditching it in February when my renewal comes up.

  • 11.27.2012 6:06 AM PDT
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Posted by: Legendary Toilet

Posted by: AcedannyK 7
XBL is awesome. £40 a year is nothing for the entertainment you get.

Yet PSN is free.
PSN doesn't have halo or skyrim DLC. If you have a job 60 bucks for a year is very cheap and it is worth paying to get things xbox has that PSN doesn't.
Xbox Live doesn't have Steam workshop conterpart, and well Skyrim DLC come to the PC too, and well are way better on the PC version.

  • 11.27.2012 6:06 AM PDT

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The only reason I have XBL is cause of Halo, in fact the only reason I have a 360 is cause of Halo.

  • 11.27.2012 6:12 AM PDT

The Risk Is Worth The Reward.
Cry Havoc And Let Slip The Dogs Of War.

Meh I'm happy with live, doesn't really bother me all that much to be paying for it.

  • 11.27.2012 6:13 AM PDT
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He won't remember me, but it's always nice to let a complete stranger on the internet know that you care.


Posted by: Exile78
Sir I can't help but get the sense that you don't want to really talk about this, you want to "nail" me.

After getting a PS3 I really don't like paying for Live anymore. It's ridiculous that they still charge for it.

  • 11.27.2012 6:16 AM PDT

Country: United States.
State: Pennsylvania.
County: Warren.
I graduated from high school on June-11-2011. I'm 19 right now. I'm turning 20 in December. I like playing video games, and board games. I like reading Sci-Fi, and World War II novels, and what not.

"There is nothing better in the world than being better at a video game than someone else....oh wait"

I hate to see what their version of the PS Vita would be like. I have a feeling for the online instead of it being included in the Gold you pay for the 360. You have to pay a separate subscription. Their greedy enough where if you have lets say 2 accounts on the same Xbox. You have to pay Gold separately for them. So it wouldn't surprise me if they did that for a handhold.

  • 11.27.2012 6:39 AM PDT

Honestly, this must be a joke. Child, listen, stop trying to defend yourself because clearly you are incapable of it. The only idiot in this thread is yourself, and trust me, it is obvious. So, how about you do as I asked earlier and log off, mommy and daddy wouldn't want you staying up this late.
-- Direct Control, BAMF

Posted by: Vgnut117
XBL: Pay so you can unlock the ability to pay.

Maybe people will start rejecting this ripoff when Microsoft starts locking offline single player content as they've already started with Spartan Ops.

People as in people? Sure. People as in The Flood? Don't hold your breath.

  • 11.27.2012 6:42 AM PDT

What a waste....

iOS games in general suck. PC Master Race.

  • 11.27.2012 6:50 AM PDT