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Posted by: Bryanesie

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Posted by: Bryanesie
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Yeah, I'll take my chances with getting my Japanese degree.


languages fall under 'Liberal Arts'.
Yeah, that's why I posted that.

What would be the difference between majoring in a language or just taking Rosetta Stone or something?

  • 11.27.2012 2:12 PM PDT

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  • 11.27.2012 2:12 PM PDT


Posted by: deltahalo UK
languages fall under 'Liberal Arts'.
You study Chinese, Arabic, or Russian and join the military? They'll love you. Other than that? I laugh at the idea that there is a large job market for languages such as those. The main other one would be Spanish, but that's only relevant domestically and not really that relevant in high end jobs from what I understand.

  • 11.27.2012 2:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: Bryanesie

Posted by: deltahalo UK

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Yeah, I'll take my chances with getting my Japanese degree.


languages fall under 'Liberal Arts'.
Yeah, that's why I posted that.

What would be the difference between majoring in a language or just taking Rosetta Stone or something?
It looks better on a resume.

[Edited on 11.27.2012 2:13 PM PST]

  • 11.27.2012 2:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: Bryanesie
Posted by: deltahalo UK
Posted by: Bryanesie
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Yeah, I'll take my chances with getting my Japanese degree.


languages fall under 'Liberal Arts'.
Yeah, that's why I posted that.

What would be the difference between majoring in a language or just taking Rosetta Stone or something?
I think you really overestimate the reliability of rosetta stone

  • 11.27.2012 2:13 PM PDT

Posted by: AJF1177
Look at the black plague in Europe, if medical treatment was advanced enough it might not have been as devastating.

If everyone had your mindset we would never reach the stars or learn the mysteries of the universe, we would just be a bunch of hunters and gatherers.
That's because they lived like Europeans. We should have lived like Native Americans.

Reaching the stars, learning the mysteries of the universe...how does that help the working man? How does that further our ultimate goal of communal happiness? Has society gotten more happy, more loving, since we landed on the moon? Far from it.

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Posted by: JMcDon15
Posted by: Bryanesie
Posted by: deltahalo UK
Posted by: Bryanesie
Translator/Interpreter becomes top profession for 2012

Yeah, I'll take my chances with getting my Japanese degree.


languages fall under 'Liberal Arts'.
Yeah, that's why I posted that.

What would be the difference between majoring in a language or just taking Rosetta Stone or something?
I think you really overestimate the reliability of rosetta stone

My point is that there are other means of learning a language that doesn't require $80,000.

  • 11.27.2012 2:14 PM PDT

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ITT:capitalist drones who think the only value of an education is the job one gets out of it
ITSociety: High-paying jobs require a degree relative to that job, or a rich daddy.

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Engineering isn't the only high paying job
Business. Teaching. Programming (usually, unless you're a prodigy). Medicine. Law.

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  • 11.27.2012 2:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: AJF1177
Look at the black plague in Europe, if medical treatment was advanced enough it might not have been as devastating.

If everyone had your mindset we would never reach the stars or learn the mysteries of the universe, we would just be a bunch of hunters and gatherers.
That's because they lived like Europeans. We should have lived like Native Americans.
And what scientific and technological advancements did the Native Americans have? They were nearly exterminated by European diseases because they didn't have any actual medical science.

They had herbs and -blam!-.

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Posted by: AJF1177
Look at the black plague in Europe, if medical treatment was advanced enough it might not have been as devastating.

If everyone had your mindset we would never reach the stars or learn the mysteries of the universe, we would just be a bunch of hunters and gatherers.
That's because they lived like Europeans. We should have lived like Native Americans.

Reaching the stars, learning the mysteries of the universe...how does that help the working man? How does that further our ultimate goal of communal happiness? Has society gotten more happy, more loving, since we landed on the moon? Far from it.
Look at the standard of living now and the stardard of living in 1600 then get back to me.

You wanna know why I hate hippies? Because a mindset like yours will not help progress the human race.

[Edited on 11.27.2012 2:21 PM PST]

  • 11.27.2012 2:18 PM PDT

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Seriously, if the only problem is because there aren't a lot of job opportunities for it then lol.
Lol indeed. Spending thousands of dollars to go to school and then not being able to use the skills you learned to turn a profit is definitely lotastic.
Lol for me at least. I must be complete idiot if the only reason why I am going to a university is to learn and not worry about getting a great paying job.

Listen, money isn't everything to me.
Not an idiot, it's just a bit of a waste is all. You never know what will happen in the future, and it pays to be proactive.

  • 11.27.2012 2:20 PM PDT

+1 for you good sir.


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Posted by: Adamal123
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Posted by: Adamal123
Seriously, if the only problem is because there aren't a lot of job opportunities for it then lol.
Lol indeed. Spending thousands of dollars to go to school and then not being able to use the skills you learned to turn a profit is definitely lotastic.
Lol for me at least. I must be complete idiot if the only reason why I am going to a university is to learn and not worry about getting a great paying job.

Listen, money isn't everything to me.
Not an idiot, it's just a bit of a waste is all. You never know what will happen in the future, and it pays to be proactive.
Well like I said, I have other majors in mind such as Chemistry and Biology.

  • 11.27.2012 2:22 PM PDT

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A Liberal Arts degree is why a Bachelors degree has become so muddy in terms of looking good career wise.

Anyone can go to a University, major in Liberal arts, study some Psychology, maybe a little of Sociology, a tad bit of writing, etc... and come out in the end with a Bachelors degree.

There are waaaaay to many Bachelors Degrees out there today. Why do you think so many college graduates can't get a job?


The idea of University has changed in American culture. Now it's all about going because it's what you do after High School. A place to party and get drunk and maybe get a degree afterwards.

Liberal Arts has become one of those degrees that people see as, "easy," and anyone can get. Bachelors degrees have become less valuable because of it. Want a good job, gotta get a Masters now.



Seriously, more people need to go into Blue Collar work. Go to Auto Mechanic's school. Those guys make good money.

  • 11.27.2012 2:22 PM PDT

Posted by: AJF1177

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Posted by: AJF1177
Look at the black plague in Europe, if medical treatment was advanced enough it might not have been as devastating.

If everyone had your mindset we would never reach the stars or learn the mysteries of the universe, we would just be a bunch of hunters and gatherers.
That's because they lived like Europeans. We should have lived like Native Americans.

Reaching the stars, learning the mysteries of the universe...how does that help the working man? How does that further our ultimate goal of communal happiness? Has society gotten more happy, more loving, since we landed on the moon? Far from it.
Look at the standard of living now and the stardard of living in 1600 then get back to me.

You wanna know why I hate hippies? Because a mindset like yours will not help progress the human race.
You keep bringing up Europe for some reason. Look at the standard of living in most of the northern Native American tribes and the southeast Asian tribes long ago. They were Communist in the traditional sense of the word. They were loving and peaceful. They saw each other as human beings, not as dollar signs. Above all, they were happy.

Know why I hate scientists? Because they're only concerned with a false notion of "progress".

  • 11.27.2012 2:23 PM PDT

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Jean-Jacques Rousseau has quite a few choice words to say about "progress" as we see it now, particularly in his Dialogue on the Sciences and the Arts

  • 11.27.2012 2:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
a false notion of "progress".
I hope you are not serious.
Posted by: Garem
You keep bringing up Europe for some reason.

You keep bringing up the native american tribes for some reason.

Look at the standard of living in most of the northern Native American tribes and the southeast Asian tribes long ago. They were Communist in the traditional sense of the word. They were loving and peaceful. They saw each other as human beings, not as dollar signs. Above all, they were happy.Peace and love? Ever hear of scalping?

They lived in tents.

Now we live in houses with electricity, and indoor plumbing.

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A Liberal Arts degree is why a Bachelors degree has become so muddy in terms of looking good career wise.

Anyone can go to a University, major in Liberal arts, study some Psychology, maybe a little of Sociology, a tad bit of writing, etc... and come out in the end with a Bachelors degree.

There are waaaaay to many Bachelors Degrees out there today. Why do you think so many college graduates can't get a job?


The idea of University has changed in American culture. Now it's all about going because it's what you do after High School. A place to party and get drunk and maybe get a degree afterwards.

Liberal Arts has become one of those degrees that people see as, "easy," and anyone can get. Bachelors degrees have become less valuable because of it. Want a good job, gotta get a Masters now.



Seriously, more people need to go into Blue Collar work. Go to Auto Mechanic's school. Those guys make good money.


I agree with your last point. People can make a very good living doing more blue-collared work. Seriously, a plumber or electrician can make quite a cushy living. My cousin is an electrician (or something very similar) for a private company that works with hotels and he is happy. He makes roughly $70,000 a year and he didn't graduate from college (I think he went to a trade school).

College just isn't for everyone.

  • 11.27.2012 2:28 PM PDT


Posted by: Garem
Posted by: AJF1177

Posted by: Garem
Posted by: AJF1177
Look at the black plague in Europe, if medical treatment was advanced enough it might not have been as devastating.

If everyone had your mindset we would never reach the stars or learn the mysteries of the universe, we would just be a bunch of hunters and gatherers.
That's because they lived like Europeans. We should have lived like Native Americans.

Reaching the stars, learning the mysteries of the universe...how does that help the working man? How does that further our ultimate goal of communal happiness? Has society gotten more happy, more loving, since we landed on the moon? Far from it.
Look at the standard of living now and the stardard of living in 1600 then get back to me.

You wanna know why I hate hippies? Because a mindset like yours will not help progress the human race.
You keep bringing up Europe for some reason. Look at the standard of living in most of the northern Native American tribes and the southeast Asian tribes long ago. They were Communist in the traditional sense of the word. They were loving and peaceful. They saw each other as human beings, not as dollar signs. Above all, they were happy.

Know why I hate scientists? Because they're only concerned with a false notion of "progress".


Hmmm... My suspicions have been confirmed - you "hate scientists". With this in mind, let me guess:

- You are deeply religious?
- You are an arts student?
- You think that the Earth is 6000 years old, made by god and that all geological evidence proving otherwise is "false"?
- You believe in the backwards thinking religious belief of "intelligent design" (i.e. "creationism") and you do not accept evolution?

I mean, come on, you "hate scientists"? Do you have absolutely no clue about what on Earth is going on? Do you not realise how utterly ridiculous and foolish that statement is?

  • 11.27.2012 2:31 PM PDT

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  • 11.27.2012 2:33 PM PDT

Posted by: UK Dark Wolf360
Hmmm... My suspicions have been confirmed - you "hate scientists". With this in mind, let me guess:

- You are deeply religious?
- You are an arts student?
- You think that the Earth is 6000 years old, made by god and that all geological evidence proving otherwise is "false"?
- You believe in the backwards thinking religious belief of "intelligent design" (i.e. "creationism") and you do not accept evolution?

I mean, come on, you "hate scientists"? Do you have absolutely no clue about what on Earth is going on? Do you not realise how utterly ridiculous and foolish that statement is?
-Nope, militant Agnostic.
-Yes.
-No.
-LOL, no.

I hate what scientists have become.

  • 11.27.2012 2:36 PM PDT

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Its not because there aren't a lot of job opportunities with those, its because the majority of people go into it, and they don't realize that there are already a surplus of people in that field. Chemistry and Biology aren't liberal arts. Psychology has little effect on our society, so its a complete waste of money in my opinion

  • 11.27.2012 2:38 PM PDT

Posted by: AJF1177
I hope you are not serious.
I am.

You keep bringing up the native american tribes for some reason.Because that's my idea of a utopia. 1600's Europe is your idea of a utopia?

Peace and love? Ever hear of scalping?

They lived in tents.

Now we live in houses with electricity, and indoor plumbing.
Which is why I was referring specifically to northern Native American tribes. I would take a loving, happy society that lived in tents to a dark, cynical society that lives in houses any day.

[Edited on 11.27.2012 2:38 PM PST]

  • 11.27.2012 2:38 PM PDT

>implying any degree is more pointless than Women's Studies

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Posted by: UK Dark Wolf360
Hmmm... My suspicions have been confirmed - you "hate scientists". With this in mind, let me guess:

- You are deeply religious?
- You are an arts student?
- You think that the Earth is 6000 years old, made by god and that all geological evidence proving otherwise is "false"?
- You believe in the backwards thinking religious belief of "intelligent design" (i.e. "creationism") and you do not accept evolution?

I mean, come on, you "hate scientists"? Do you have absolutely no clue about what on Earth is going on? Do you not realise how utterly ridiculous and foolish that statement is?
-Nope, militant Agnostic.
-Yes.
-No.
-LOL, no.

I hate what scientists have become.
whoa, don't associate everyone with the opinions of a few

  • 11.27.2012 2:39 PM PDT