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Subject: So what exactly is wrong with majoring in liberal arts?

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Posted by: karsttheninja99
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Posted by: Wyzilla
And because of their lack of advancement, got wiped out. That's what happens if you don't keep up with the rest of the pack, someone picks you off. Not to mention you don't serve humanity well by sitting down in one spot, not building up immunity to diseases or advancing the greater good. That's just asking for extinction.

LOL this dude actually thinks humans by nature are loving and compassionate?

Wrong era bro.

They got wiped out by other humans. Humans who were doing it wrong. "Advancement" and "progress" are words we throw around to get away with doing terrible things. The goal of humans is not to progress, but to be happy and to love.

There is no "goal" of being a human other than that of any other living species, to survive and reproduce

Incorrect. Humans, being sentient, can choose their own goals. Creatures which are not sentient simply don't have a goal. Either way, nothing has an intrinsic goal to survive and reproduce, to say so is to commit a variant of the naturalistic fallacy.

  • 11.27.2012 2:50 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
Posted by: UK Dark Wolf360
I am genuinely surprised - it would seem you are an anomaly, perhaps it goes deeper than this: have you lost a relative who was ill and the doctors couldn't save? Or maybe it's as trivial as failing your science exams at school and then blaming it all on scientists? There must be some proper reason as to why you "hate scientists", I am intrigued (and disgusted, of course).
Perhaps "hate scientists" is too harsh. I disagree with the idea of science. "Sci", meaning "know". The problem is that we try to know too much. Some things in this universe can't and shouldn't be explained. Instead of spending billions of dollars exploring space, we should first create a better world here on earth.
How could you possibly support the idea that we " know too much"??

  • 11.27.2012 2:50 PM PDT

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Posted by: MadMax888
So should we stop trying to cure cancer?

We wouldn't have cancer if it weren't for all the radiation, and all the GMO's we have in food.

Were you trolling all along, or have you simply gone down this route after losing so badly?

[Edited on 11.27.2012 2:51 PM PST]

  • 11.27.2012 2:51 PM PDT

Posted by: Wyzilla
And then go right back to killing that bastard over the hill. Our goal is selfish to survival. If something interferes with this, we remove them, permanently. If someone else has something that we want, we take it with force. 'Love' does not technically exist. It's a chemical reaction in the brain between parties resulting in them wanting to reproduce and continue the species and pass on their genes.
No, war is a delusion. It is a sick, twisted anomaly. Humans don't want to hate each other. And love does exist. It's the reason for life.

  • 11.27.2012 2:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
Perhaps "hate scientists" is too harsh. I disagree with the idea of science. "Sci", meaning "know". The problem is that we try to know too much. Some things in this universe can't and shouldn't be explained. Instead of spending billions of dollars exploring space, we should first create a better world here on earth.
This is where I draw the line, the billions spent, which is relatively tiny compared to the budgets of other groups, has not been in vain, and has advanced us a lot.

Why wouldn't we want to understand space? Shouldn't we be aware of our surroundings?

  • 11.27.2012 2:51 PM PDT

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My point is that there are other means of learning a language that doesn't require $80,000.
It's costing me nowhere near that much to get my Japanese degree, even with study abroad. You can sign up for language intensive programs, but after that you have to go out and prove you have the ability to use that language on the market. However doing it through a University allows you opportunities such as study abroad or job opportunities from countries with the language you're learning.

At the start of this semester I went to a seminar where statistically Japan is planning to increase the number of foreign workers up to around 50% from what it is now. Companies there actually need a third party to go out and look for prospective people who are bilingual, can speak Japanese, and are looking at landing a job in Japan. The best place to look for these kinds of people are at language programs offered at universities.

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Troll Detected: Suggested Operation, ask aid from moderation and report Garem's comments. Another case of I hope this is a troll, otherwise I'm sad because I've found another reason to pity my species.

  • 11.27.2012 2:51 PM PDT

Posted by: annoyinginge
Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888
So should we stop trying to cure cancer?

We wouldn't have cancer if it weren't for all the radiation, and all the GMO's we have in food.

Were you trolling all along, or have you gone down this route after losing so badly?
No, I wasn't trolling. And you can't lose an opinion.

GMOs and radiation in everyday items are a large cause of cancer.

  • 11.27.2012 2:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888
So should we stop trying to cure cancer?
We wouldn't have cancer if it weren't for all the radiation, and all the GMO's we have in food.
Yes, because cancer didn't exist before those things...

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Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888
So should we stop trying to cure cancer?

We wouldn't have cancer if it weren't for all the radiation, and all the GMO's we have in food.

Were you trolling all along, or have you gone down this route after losing so badly?
No, I wasn't trolling. And you can't lose an opinion.

GMOs and radiation in everyday items are a large cause of cancer.
Cancer has been around for hundreds if not thousands of years, it just wasn't known as cancer and it was not understood until recent times

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Posted by: Garem
Posted by: Wyzilla
And then go right back to killing that bastard over the hill. Our goal is selfish to survival. If something interferes with this, we remove them, permanently. If someone else has something that we want, we take it with force. 'Love' does not technically exist. It's a chemical reaction in the brain between parties resulting in them wanting to reproduce and continue the species and pass on their genes.
No, war is a delusion. It is a sick, twisted anomaly. Humans don't want to hate each other. And love does exist. It's the reason for life.

War is good. It results in the advancement of technology, which leads to increases in the quality of life and longevity. World War 2 for example was extremely good, as not only did we squash dictators, but we also advanced our societies, expanded our cultures, and improved the human condition in our respective countries. Well. Somewhat in the USSR.

  • 11.27.2012 2:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
Perhaps "hate scientists" is too harsh. I disagree with the idea of science. "Sci", meaning "know". The problem is that we try to know too much. Some things in this universe can't and shouldn't be explained. Instead of spending billions of dollars exploring space, we should first create a better world here on earth.
This is where I draw the line, the billions spent, which is relatively tiny compared to the budgets of other groups, has not been in vain, and has advanced us a lot.

Why wouldn't we want to understand space? Shouldn't we be aware of our surroundings?
See, here's the problem. If I give my honest opinion on NASA, everyone's just going to call me a troll. So I'll just move past that.

Are surroundings are earth, not space. Mastering our own domain is more important than trying to find others.

  • 11.27.2012 2:53 PM PDT

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No, war is a delusion. It is a sick, twisted anomaly. Humans don't want to hate each other. And love does exist. It's the reason for life.

But what is love?

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Posted by: Garem
Perhaps "hate scientists" is too harsh. I disagree with the idea of science. "Sci", meaning "know". The problem is that we try to know too much. Some things in this universe can't and shouldn't be explained. Instead of spending billions of dollars exploring space, we should first create a better world here on earth.
This is where I draw the line, the billions spent, which is relatively tiny compared to the budgets of other groups, has not been in vain, and has advanced us a lot.

Why wouldn't we want to understand space? Shouldn't we be aware of our surroundings?
See, here's the problem. If I give my honest opinion on NASA, everyone's just going to call me a troll. So I'll just move past that.

Are surroundings are earth, not space. Mastering our own domain is more important than trying to find others.

We must expand and conquer all domains, otherwise we increase the likelihood of extinction.


Good -blam!- god, where the hell does your logical backwardness come from? This is a new level of ridiculousness I've seen on here.

  • 11.27.2012 2:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: MadMax888
So should we stop trying to cure cancer?
We wouldn't have cancer if it weren't for all the radiation, and all the GMO's we have in food.
Yes, because cancer didn't exist before those things...
Ack. Messed that one up. Of course, it's been around forever, but the rate at which people are getting it has sped up substantially over the past few decades.

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Posted by: Garem
Posted by: karsttheninja99
There is no "goal" of being a human other than that of any other living species, to survive and reproduce
This is where I disagree.
Humans are animals and like all animals it is in our instincts to survive and thrive.

Everyones goal in life is different there is no one universal goal or meaning to it.

To me it is the pursuit of knowledge.

[Edited on 11.27.2012 2:57 PM PST]

  • 11.27.2012 2:56 PM PDT


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Posted by: UK Dark Wolf360
I am genuinely surprised - it would seem you are an anomaly, perhaps it goes deeper than this: have you lost a relative who was ill and the doctors couldn't save? Or maybe it's as trivial as failing your science exams at school and then blaming it all on scientists? There must be some proper reason as to why you "hate scientists", I am intrigued (and disgusted, of course).
Perhaps "hate scientists" is too harsh. I disagree with the idea of science. "Sci", meaning "know". The problem is that we try to know too much. Some things in this universe can't and shouldn't be explained. Instead of spending billions of dollars exploring space, we should first create a better world here on earth.


- Okay, so you disagree with the idea of science? Why? Elaborate further? What is wrong with finding the answers to the questions that humanity has had for millennia? What is wrong with allowing our species to progress through means of medical advances and increasing our ability to survive for longer as a species?

- We try to know too much? Why? Elaborate! There is nothing wrong with gaining knowledge!

  • 11.27.2012 2:56 PM PDT

Posted by: Wyzilla
We must expand and conquer all domains, otherwise we increase the likelihood of extinction.


Good -blam!- god, where the hell does your logical backwardness come from? This is a new level of ridiculousness I've seen on here.
We need to conquer nothing. We need to help each other. If we don't, we shouldn't be allowed to survive as a species in the first place.

  • 11.27.2012 2:56 PM PDT

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The problem that arises from this situation is that people aren't wrong in picking a liberal arts degree, but can be wrong in the specifics of that degree.

For example, unless your the absolute best on a given instrument or voice, Performance Majors are not very likely to get a job.

But if you can write a decent and catchy little tune, then a Composition Major can really net some interesting jobs.

It comes down to a few factors:

How badly do you want a job in this field?
How talented are you at this field?
In what way does this field lend itself to other jobs?


For example, we can use myself. I'm a Music Education Major. Ignoring the fact that my university has a 100% employment rate for this major specifically, we can take a look at a couple benefits to this route.

A Music Education major has the benefit of choice. They can teach at a school of some sort, OR they can start their own/join with a studio and teach private lessons. What's even better is that we can do both too.

But the real benefit is that, in my state, if you have a degree in education AT ALL, you can teach any class. Of course, that speaks volumes for the schooling system here, but still, it is a neat little bonus.

So, in the end, I get to do what I want, which is music, I get to do something that is truly magical, which is teaching, and I have plenty of options and safety nets (I'm a minor in Marketing, Business and English.) If you're smart about it, you can make it work. But you have to be logical about the degree to make it work.

[Edited on 11.27.2012 2:59 PM PST]

  • 11.27.2012 2:56 PM PDT


Posted by: Garem
Posted by: Wyzilla
And because of their lack of advancement, got wiped out. That's what happens if you don't keep up with the rest of the pack, someone picks you off. Not to mention you don't serve humanity well by sitting down in one spot, not building up immunity to diseases or advancing the greater good. That's just asking for extinction.

LOL this dude actually thinks humans by nature are loving and compassionate?

Wrong era bro.
They got wiped out by other humans. Humans who were doing it wrong. "Advancement" and "progress" are words we throw around to get away with doing terrible things. The goal of humans is not to progress, but to be happy and to love.


Sorry bro, the goal of anything living is to survive. End of story. Its nice that you've fooled yourself into thinking that all humans can be "loving and compassionate" but it ISN'T happening. It's a dog eat dog world whether you want to believe it or not. There will always be the people meaning to drop your "happy and loving" life style to progress their own agenda, and if you fall behind, you WILL be picked off.

tl:dr Bottom Line: Survival of the Fittest

  • 11.27.2012 2:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
Perhaps "hate scientists" is too harsh. I disagree with the idea of science. "Sci", meaning "know". The problem is that we try to know too much. Some things in this universe can't and shouldn't be explained. Instead of spending billions of dollars exploring space, we should first create a better world here on earth.
This is where I draw the line, the billions spent, which is relatively tiny compared to the budgets of other groups, has not been in vain, and has advanced us a lot.

Why wouldn't we want to understand space? Shouldn't we be aware of our surroundings?
See, here's the problem. If I give my honest opinion on NASA, everyone's just going to call me a troll. So I'll just move past that.

Are surroundings are earth, not space. Mastering our own domain is more important than trying to find others.
You can't deny the over 1,000 obvious advancements NASA has given the world. They range from prosthetic limbs to carbon nanotubes, which are the strongest materials known to mankind. Their budget is less than 5 billion, which is about 2% of the US's budget. The military gets over 50% or somewhere close to 50%

  • 11.27.2012 2:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: MadMax888

Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888
So should we stop trying to cure cancer?
We wouldn't have cancer if it weren't for all the radiation, and all the GMO's we have in food.
Yes, because cancer didn't exist before those things...
Ack. Messed that one up. Of course, it's been around forever, but the rate at which people are getting it has sped up substantially over the past few decades.
And is it directly caused by radiation and GMOs?

  • 11.27.2012 2:58 PM PDT

Posted by: UK Dark Wolf360

Posted by: Garem
Posted by: UK Dark Wolf360
I am genuinely surprised - it would seem you are an anomaly, perhaps it goes deeper than this: have you lost a relative who was ill and the doctors couldn't save? Or maybe it's as trivial as failing your science exams at school and then blaming it all on scientists? There must be some proper reason as to why you "hate scientists", I am intrigued (and disgusted, of course).
Perhaps "hate scientists" is too harsh. I disagree with the idea of science. "Sci", meaning "know". The problem is that we try to know too much. Some things in this universe can't and shouldn't be explained. Instead of spending billions of dollars exploring space, we should first create a better world here on earth.


- Okay, so you disagree with the idea of science? Why? Elaborate further? What is wrong with finding the answers to the questions that humanity has had for millennia? What is wrong with allowing our species to progress through means of medical advances and increasing our ability to survive for longer as a species?

- We try to know too much? Why? Elaborate! There is nothing wrong with gaining knowledge!
I just explained why. As humans, we have an unnatural fascination with knowledge. We don't need to know as much as we're trying to know. A dollar spent on NASA is a dollar that could've fed a starving homeless man for a day. And that's more important than some petty idea of progress.

Love is always more important than knowledge.

  • 11.27.2012 2:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
Posted by: Wyzilla
We must expand and conquer all domains, otherwise we increase the likelihood of extinction.


Good -blam!- god, where the hell does your logical backwardness come from? This is a new level of ridiculousness I've seen on here.
We need to conquer nothing. We need to help each other. If we don't, we shouldn't be allowed to survive as a species in the first place.
Humans aren't allowed to have opposing views? Thats like saying its illegal for different wolf packs to hunt each other. Animals shouldn't have the right to survive either?

  • 11.27.2012 2:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888
So should we stop trying to cure cancer?
We wouldn't have cancer if it weren't for all the radiation, and all the GMO's we have in food.
Yes, because cancer didn't exist before those things...
Ack. Messed that one up. Of course, it's been around forever, but the rate at which people are getting it has sped up substantially over the past few decades.
And is it directly caused by radiation and GMOs?
Yes.

  • 11.27.2012 2:59 PM PDT