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Subject: So what exactly is wrong with majoring in liberal arts?

I'm your biggest fan!

Seven pages of idealists and realists bashing their heads against each other. No thanks.

OP, doing whatever you want is fine. It's your life, so do what you want with it. Just ask yourself a few questions, such as:
Is this degree worth the money?
Does it need formal tuition or can I study it in my free time?
Can it get me a career?
Am I contributing to the world around me by becoming an expert in that field?

I hope that helps.

  • 11.27.2012 2:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
Posted by: UK Dark Wolf360

Posted by: Garem
Posted by: UK Dark Wolf360
I am genuinely surprised - it would seem you are an anomaly, perhaps it goes deeper than this: have you lost a relative who was ill and the doctors couldn't save? Or maybe it's as trivial as failing your science exams at school and then blaming it all on scientists? There must be some proper reason as to why you "hate scientists", I am intrigued (and disgusted, of course).
Perhaps "hate scientists" is too harsh. I disagree with the idea of science. "Sci", meaning "know". The problem is that we try to know too much. Some things in this universe can't and shouldn't be explained. Instead of spending billions of dollars exploring space, we should first create a better world here on earth.


- Okay, so you disagree with the idea of science? Why? Elaborate further? What is wrong with finding the answers to the questions that humanity has had for millennia? What is wrong with allowing our species to progress through means of medical advances and increasing our ability to survive for longer as a species?

- We try to know too much? Why? Elaborate! There is nothing wrong with gaining knowledge!
I just explained why. As humans, we have an unnatural fascination with knowledge. We don't need to know as much as we're trying to know. A dollar spent on NASA is a dollar that could've fed a starving homeless man for a day. And that's more important than some petty idea of progress.

Love is always more important than knowledge.
What is the point of feeding a homeless man if he isn't aiding society, but is feeding off of the hard work of others?

  • 11.27.2012 2:59 PM PDT

'Κύριε Ἰησοῦ Χριστέ, Υἱὲ τοῦ Θεοῦ, ἐλέησόν με τὸν ἁμαρτωλόν.'

There is nothing wrong with it if you are going into college just for an education and can afford it. But if you do not have very much money and are going to college to become qualified for a good career, then you are not going to find very many opportunities with a liberal arts degree.

  • 11.27.2012 3:00 PM PDT

Posted by: karsttheninja99

Posted by: Garem
Posted by: Wyzilla
We must expand and conquer all domains, otherwise we increase the likelihood of extinction.


Good -blam!- god, where the hell does your logical backwardness come from? This is a new level of ridiculousness I've seen on here.
We need to conquer nothing. We need to help each other. If we don't, we shouldn't be allowed to survive as a species in the first place.
Humans aren't allowed to have opposing views? Thats like saying its illegal for different wolf packs to hunt each other. Animals shouldn't have the right to survive either?
Opposing views are fine. Killing each other over those views isn't.

  • 11.27.2012 3:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888
And is it directly caused by radiation and GMOs?
Yes.
Then why is it legal to use them?

  • 11.27.2012 3:00 PM PDT

Posted by: karsttheninja99
What is the point of feeding a homeless man if he isn't aiding society, but is feeding off of the hard work of others?
Everyone aids society. We are all equal. That homeless man is just as important as a fast food CEO.

  • 11.27.2012 3:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: MadMax888

Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888

Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888
So should we stop trying to cure cancer?
We wouldn't have cancer if it weren't for all the radiation, and all the GMO's we have in food.
Yes, because cancer didn't exist before those things...
Ack. Messed that one up. Of course, it's been around forever, but the rate at which people are getting it has sped up substantially over the past few decades.
And is it directly caused by radiation and GMOs?
Yes, but that doesn't mean cancer hasn't been around for some time. Radiation happens naturally. Uranium is natural, solar radiation, UVA and IVB happen naturally.

  • 11.27.2012 3:01 PM PDT

Posted by: MadMax888

Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888
And is it directly caused by radiation and GMOs?
Yes.
Then why is it legal to use them?
They've been banned in most European countries, but America is fascinated by the dollar sign.

  • 11.27.2012 3:01 PM PDT


Posted by: Garem
Posted by: UK Dark Wolf360

Posted by: Garem
Posted by: UK Dark Wolf360
I am genuinely surprised - it would seem you are an anomaly, perhaps it goes deeper than this: have you lost a relative who was ill and the doctors couldn't save? Or maybe it's as trivial as failing your science exams at school and then blaming it all on scientists? There must be some proper reason as to why you "hate scientists", I am intrigued (and disgusted, of course).
Perhaps "hate scientists" is too harsh. I disagree with the idea of science. "Sci", meaning "know". The problem is that we try to know too much. Some things in this universe can't and shouldn't be explained. Instead of spending billions of dollars exploring space, we should first create a better world here on earth.


- Okay, so you disagree with the idea of science? Why? Elaborate further? What is wrong with finding the answers to the questions that humanity has had for millennia? What is wrong with allowing our species to progress through means of medical advances and increasing our ability to survive for longer as a species?

- We try to know too much? Why? Elaborate! There is nothing wrong with gaining knowledge!
I just explained why. As humans, we have an unnatural fascination with knowledge. We don't need to know as much as we're trying to know. A dollar spent on NASA is a dollar that could've fed a starving homeless man for a day. And that's more important than some petty idea of progress.

Love is always more important than knowledge.


Now I ask this seriously before I waste any more of my time on this - are you trolling? Or are you actually being serious? As I have never, ever seen someone with such backwards views who isn't a creationist.

Do you not realise that money invested in scientific research (which includes NASA) will inevitably contribute to the prevention of diseases, providing food to the homeless (more efficient crop production comes from scientific research) etc?

  • 11.27.2012 3:02 PM PDT

I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted.

Ní thagann ciall roimh aois.

Gach rud mo creideamh ea etfilu Dia.


Posted by: kikashi hatake
Try finding a job with it.

  • 11.27.2012 3:02 PM PDT

There is nothing wrong with studying the humanities and social sciences. Fields of study such as psychology and history are some of the most intriguing academic disciplines and serve their purpose in the world. It's just that from a vocational standpoint degrees in humanities and social sciences aren't really going to find you much work unless you teach them. Even then teaching jobs can be hard to come by and very competitive.

If you really want to study liberal arts and believe that it would be beneficial to your life go for it. However if you want to major in something more practical such as engineering or computer science for starting a career you could always just take a minor in whatever your personal interest is. Just my two cents.

  • 11.27.2012 3:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
Posted by: karsttheninja99

Posted by: Garem
Posted by: Wyzilla
We must expand and conquer all domains, otherwise we increase the likelihood of extinction.


Good -blam!- god, where the hell does your logical backwardness come from? This is a new level of ridiculousness I've seen on here.
We need to conquer nothing. We need to help each other. If we don't, we shouldn't be allowed to survive as a species in the first place.
Humans aren't allowed to have opposing views? Thats like saying its illegal for different wolf packs to hunt each other. Animals shouldn't have the right to survive either?
Opposing views are fine. Killing each other over those views isn't.
I can agree with that, but why do animals kill each other?

  • 11.27.2012 3:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: Jagdflieger
ITT:capitalist drones who think the only value of an education is the job one gets out of it


Quite the contrary. Most of us folks who see college as a way to get a job are actually the lower-income working-class fellows who are just looking for a way to make an honest living and cannot afford to leisurely go to college just for the sake of learning. Don't get me wrong, I love learning, and if I had the resources and time, I would go to college probably all my life just to learn about things that interest me. But I don't. I only got about one shot in college given my situation so I have to make it count by learning something that will give me career opportunities.

  • 11.27.2012 3:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888

Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888
And is it directly caused by radiation and GMOs?
Yes.
Then why is it legal to use them?
They've been banned in most European countries, but America is fascinated by the dollar sign.
Can you blame them? When you make a cheap product illegal, you're only making it more difficult to increase revenue. And that's why businesses exist - to make money.

  • 11.27.2012 3:03 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888

Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888
And is it directly caused by radiation and GMOs?
Yes.
Then why is it legal to use them?
They've been banned in most European countries, but America is fascinated by the dollar sign.
The fact that corn is used for ethanol, which the US is producing in enormous amounts in order to meet global fuel demands doesn't help

  • 11.27.2012 3:03 PM PDT

Posted by: UK Dark Wolf360
Now I ask this seriously before I waste any more of my time on this - are you trolling? Or are you actually being serious? As I have never, ever seen someone with such backwards views who isn't a creationist.

Do you not realise that money invested in scientific research (which includes NASA) will inevitably contribute to the prevention of diseases, providing food to the homeless (more efficient crop production comes from scientific research) etc?
I am honestly not, and I amend my previous statement. Science is important for a limited number of things, mainly basic disease prevention. Exploring space, however, is pointless, IMO.

  • 11.27.2012 3:04 PM PDT

Posted by: MadMax888
Can you blame them? When you make a cheap product illegal, you're only making it more difficult to increase revenue. And that's why businesses exist - to make money.
Yes, I can. And it's why I'm morally opposed to capitalism. It puts money over morality and profit over people.

  • 11.27.2012 3:05 PM PDT

Please do not send me group invites.


Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888
Can you blame them? When you make a cheap product illegal, you're only making it more difficult to increase revenue. And that's why businesses exist - to make money.
Yes, I can. And it's why I'm morally opposed to capitalism. It puts money over morality and profit over people.
What other economic system works better?

  • 11.27.2012 3:05 PM PDT

I gaze upon the stars and see the majesty that is the universe.


EGO mos bulla astrum.

Is it not ironic that this thread actually goes into the analysis of one's reasoning to go to college? If liberal arts is so stupid then why are all of you on a forum to discuss topics with others?

  • 11.27.2012 3:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
Posted by: UK Dark Wolf360
Now I ask this seriously before I waste any more of my time on this - are you trolling? Or are you actually being serious? As I have never, ever seen someone with such backwards views who isn't a creationist.

Do you not realise that money invested in scientific research (which includes NASA) will inevitably contribute to the prevention of diseases, providing food to the homeless (more efficient crop production comes from scientific research) etc?
I am honestly not, and I amend my previous statement. Science is important for a limited number of things, mainly basic disease prevention. Exploring space, however, is pointless, IMO.
I honestly don't see why you've attached yourself to this concept. We've gained so much knowledge about the workings of our world from the study of the universe. Your using the internet right now, which was developed to ease the study of atomic particles at CERN

  • 11.27.2012 3:06 PM PDT

Posted by: MadMax888
What other economic system works better?
Socialism.

  • 11.27.2012 3:06 PM PDT
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Posted by: Garem
Posted by: UK Dark Wolf360
Now I ask this seriously before I waste any more of my time on this - are you trolling? Or are you actually being serious? As I have never, ever seen someone with such backwards views who isn't a creationist.

Do you not realise that money invested in scientific research (which includes NASA) will inevitably contribute to the prevention of diseases, providing food to the homeless (more efficient crop production comes from scientific research) etc?
I am honestly not, and I amend my previous statement. Science is important for a limited number of things, mainly basic disease prevention. Exploring space, however, is pointless, IMO.
No it most certainly is not.

I'm not getting into this because of your thickheadedness

  • 11.27.2012 3:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888
What other economic system works better?
Socialism.
But its been shown time and time again that it won't work because there is no incentive to work hard

  • 11.27.2012 3:07 PM PDT

Posted by: karsttheninja99
I honestly don't see why you've attached yourself to this concept. We've gained so much knowledge about the workings of our world from the study of the universe. Your using the internet right now, which was developed to ease the study of atomic particles at CERN
I would rather live in mud huts with loving people than in skyscrapers with cynics.

  • 11.27.2012 3:07 PM PDT

http://i.imgur.com/fsISj.png

Posted by: Garem
Posted by: MadMax888
And is it directly caused by radiation and GMOs?
Yes.

Learn2research. That paper has been pretty much annihilated by the scientific community. Somebody's even been nice enough to give links to the relevant replies on the Wikipedia page for GM food controversies, you could've found out as much with a quick Google search on the issue. To be honest, alarm bells should've started ringing when the publisher refused to show his paper to anybody except scientifically untrained reporters who were specifically barred from consulting experts on the subject.

Oh, and MadMax888, I'm disappointed in the way you accepted what he said as true just because he provided a source. Blue text doesn't mean infallibility.

[Edited on 11.27.2012 3:09 PM PST]

  • 11.27.2012 3:07 PM PDT