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Subject: WW2 Russia "strategies"?

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Posted by: Raptorx7
You guys have no idea what your talking about. In some cases human wave tactics were used early on but as they fought and learned they developed tactics.

Operation saturn and Uranus come to mind, the Russians allowed the Germans to become stuck in Stalingrad in grueling urban combat, what the Germans called "Ratenkrieg" or rat war.

Germans were trained for fighting over wide swaths of land and fast attacks not urban slow combat.

When the German 6th army was fighting at Stalingrad the Russians built up on there flanks with massive amounts of troops and armor and surrounded the 6th army cutting it off forever and effectively destroying it.

The Russians were not to be messed with and they deserve to be respected.



lol, Uranus.

Tell Germany not to attack Russia during Winter.

  • 11.27.2012 7:38 PM PDT

"I will show you how a true Prussian officer fights!"

"And i will show you where the iron crosses grow..."

- "Cross of Iron"

This is completely false to guys, of course there would be situations but this definitely didn't happen everywhere. Be careful what you believe on here.
Posted by: Opt1mu5Pr1m3 15
Basically yeah.. they would send in recruits unarmed and tell them to pick up guns too.

  • 11.27.2012 7:39 PM PDT

"I will show you how a true Prussian officer fights!"

"And i will show you where the iron crosses grow..."

- "Cross of Iron"

They didnt attack during the Winter, Operation Barbarossa commenced on June 22nd 1941. Infact German attacks coincided with the spring "thaw" as they called it. They never really launched attacks during the winter. The Russians were also reluctant to do it as well. ALSO the rasputa "torrential rain' was almost a bigger problem than the cold in the last few months of 1941, overflowing roads and bogging down German supplies, troops, and panzers.
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Posted by: Raptorx7
You guys have no idea what your talking about. In some cases human wave tactics were used early on but as they fought and learned they developed tactics.

Operation saturn and Uranus come to mind, the Russians allowed the Germans to become stuck in Stalingrad in grueling urban combat, what the Germans called "Ratenkrieg" or rat war.

Germans were trained for fighting over wide swaths of land and fast attacks not urban slow combat.

When the German 6th army was fighting at Stalingrad the Russians built up on there flanks with massive amounts of troops and armor and surrounded the 6th army cutting it off forever and effectively destroying it.

The Russians were not to be messed with and they deserve to be respected.



lol, Uranus.

Tell Germany not to attack Russia during Winter.


[Edited on 11.27.2012 7:41 PM PST]

  • 11.27.2012 7:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: Raptorx7
They didnt attack during the Winter, Operation Barbarossa commenced on June 22nd 1941. Infact German attacks coincided with the spring "thaw" as they called it. They never really launched attacks during the winter. The Russians were also reluctant to do it as well. ALSO the rasputa "torrential rain' was almost a bigger problem than the cold in the last few months of 1941, overflowing roads and bogging down German supplies, troops, and panzers.
Posted by: Tehnoobtube15

Posted by: Raptorx7
You guys have no idea what your talking about. In some cases human wave tactics were used early on but as they fought and learned they developed tactics.

Operation saturn and Uranus come to mind, the Russians allowed the Germans to become stuck in Stalingrad in grueling urban combat, what the Germans called "Ratenkrieg" or rat war.

Germans were trained for fighting over wide swaths of land and fast attacks not urban slow combat.

When the German 6th army was fighting at Stalingrad the Russians built up on there flanks with massive amounts of troops and armor and surrounded the 6th army cutting it off forever and effectively destroying it.

The Russians were not to be messed with and they deserve to be respected.



lol, Uranus.

Tell Germany not to attack Russia during Winter.


Is it sad I learned more in this thread about WW2 than school?

  • 11.27.2012 7:44 PM PDT

"I will show you how a true Prussian officer fights!"

"And i will show you where the iron crosses grow..."

- "Cross of Iron"

I am glad i could teach you, i hope to teach WW2 one day!

It isnt sad at all infact. The American education system doesn't teach us anything about the Russians which is pathetic. I have just read many books on the subject. I recommend at least reading one book just so you know more than the average person!
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Posted by: Raptorx7
They didnt attack during the Winter, Operation Barbarossa commenced on June 22nd 1941. Infact German attacks coincided with the spring "thaw" as they called it. They never really launched attacks during the winter. The Russians were also reluctant to do it as well. ALSO the rasputa "torrential rain' was almost a bigger problem than the cold in the last few months of 1941, overflowing roads and bogging down German supplies, troops, and panzers.
Posted by: Tehnoobtube15

Posted by: Raptorx7
You guys have no idea what your talking about. In some cases human wave tactics were used early on but as they fought and learned they developed tactics.

Operation saturn and Uranus come to mind, the Russians allowed the Germans to become stuck in Stalingrad in grueling urban combat, what the Germans called "Ratenkrieg" or rat war.

Germans were trained for fighting over wide swaths of land and fast attacks not urban slow combat.

When the German 6th army was fighting at Stalingrad the Russians built up on there flanks with massive amounts of troops and armor and surrounded the 6th army cutting it off forever and effectively destroying it.

The Russians were not to be messed with and they deserve to be respected.



lol, Uranus.

Tell Germany not to attack Russia during Winter.


Is it sad I learned more in this thread about WW2 than school?

  • 11.27.2012 7:46 PM PDT

I'm glad you cared to look at this box with letters. Lets hang out sometime! :D


Posted by: Raptorx7
I am glad i could teach you, i hope to teach WW2 one day!

It isnt sad at all infact. The American education system doesn't teach us anything about the Russians which is pathetic. I have just read many books on the subject. I recommend at least reading one book just so you know more than the average person!
Posted by: Tehnoobtube15

Posted by: Raptorx7
They didnt attack during the Winter, Operation Barbarossa commenced on June 22nd 1941. Infact German attacks coincided with the spring "thaw" as they called it. They never really launched attacks during the winter. The Russians were also reluctant to do it as well. ALSO the rasputa "torrential rain' was almost a bigger problem than the cold in the last few months of 1941, overflowing roads and bogging down German supplies, troops, and panzers.
Posted by: Tehnoobtube15

Posted by: Raptorx7
You guys have no idea what your talking about. In some cases human wave tactics were used early on but as they fought and learned they developed tactics.

Operation saturn and Uranus come to mind, the Russians allowed the Germans to become stuck in Stalingrad in grueling urban combat, what the Germans called "Ratenkrieg" or rat war.

Germans were trained for fighting over wide swaths of land and fast attacks not urban slow combat.

When the German 6th army was fighting at Stalingrad the Russians built up on there flanks with massive amounts of troops and armor and surrounded the 6th army cutting it off forever and effectively destroying it.

The Russians were not to be messed with and they deserve to be respected.



lol, Uranus.

Tell Germany not to attack Russia during Winter.


Is it sad I learned more in this thread about WW2 than school?


That's what I get for living in Arizona...

But thanks for the history lesson. I like WW2.

  • 11.27.2012 7:47 PM PDT

Russians were also crazy good at fortifying buildings.

They would post snipers up top, machine gunners on the second floor, bolt action riflemen on the ground floor, and then they would put mortar teams inside the basement firing out of doors leading down.

They would do this with entire cities of buildings. Sometimes it would take hours for one building to be overrun with just infantry.

  • 11.27.2012 7:48 PM PDT

"I will show you how a true Prussian officer fights!"

"And i will show you where the iron crosses grow..."

- "Cross of Iron"

"Pavlovs" house in Stalingrad was defended for 40 or 50 straight days with about only 20 men or so. They were exceptional at it.
Posted by: Onlinemph
Russians were also crazy good at fortifying buildings.

They would post snipers up top, machine gunners on the second floor, bolt action riflemen on the ground floor, and then they would put mortar teams inside the basement firing out of doors leading down.

They would do this with entire cities of buildings. Sometimes it would take hours for one building to be overrun with just infantry.

  • 11.27.2012 7:49 PM PDT

“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
― Albert Einstein


Posted by: Onlinemph
Russians were also crazy good at fortifying buildings.

They would post snipers up top, machine gunners on the second floor, bolt action riflemen on the ground floor, and then they would put mortar teams inside the basement firing out of doors leading down.

They would do this with entire cities of buildings. Sometimes it would take hours for one building to be overrun with just infantry.

Yes, this was a necessity, especially in the ruble strewn streets of Stalingrad. Also, some key districts and buildings in Stalingrad that were used as command points, sniper's nests, and spotting "towers" would exchange hands repeatedly.

[Edited on 11.27.2012 7:51 PM PST]

  • 11.27.2012 7:50 PM PDT


Posted by: Raptorx7
"Pavlovs" house in Stalingrad was defended for 40 or 50 straight days with about only 20 men or so. They were exceptional at it.


50 days?

That's hardcore, got to love the Russians.

  • 11.27.2012 7:51 PM PDT
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Zerg Rush
Blitzkrieg
Kamikaze

Just a few.

  • 11.27.2012 7:52 PM PDT

“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
― Albert Einstein


Posted by: Kat_Ana
Kamikaze

That was Japan, and later in the war Germany.

  • 11.27.2012 7:54 PM PDT

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well for one I know they did a pincer thingy when defending (close to stalingrad i think). They cut through Romanian soldiers and thus destroyed the axis line that was letting german troops receive reinforcements, ammo, food, etc.

  • 11.27.2012 7:55 PM PDT

"I will show you how a true Prussian officer fights!"

"And i will show you where the iron crosses grow..."

- "Cross of Iron"

German kamikazes weren't as extreme actually.

Me109's were fitted with steel tipped wings to rip bombers wings off. These crews weren't exactly suicidal as they were intended to survive there attacks.
Posted by: Cpt Nicholson

Posted by: Kat_Ana
Kamikaze

That was Japan, and later in the war Germany.

  • 11.27.2012 7:55 PM PDT

Posted by: SwizZz Gambino
gogurt us just yogurt

It was basically "Take a -blam!-load of dudes, some of them not even armed, and hurl them all at the enemy".

  • 11.27.2012 7:56 PM PDT

"I will show you how a true Prussian officer fights!"

"And i will show you where the iron crosses grow..."

- "Cross of Iron"

Nope, read through this thread so you can learn that it wasn't always like that and infact it was pretty rare. The soviet union always had enough weapons for there troops if not food.
Posted by: OneDeadCaveMan
It was basically "Take a -blam!-load of dudes, some of them not even armed, and hurl them all at the enemy".

  • 11.27.2012 7:57 PM PDT

“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
― Albert Einstein


Posted by: Raptorx7
German kamikazes weren't as extreme actually.

Me109's were fitted with steel tipped wings to rip bombers wings off. These crews weren't exactly suicidal as they were intended to survive there attacks.
Posted by: Cpt Nicholson

Posted by: Kat_Ana
Kamikaze

That was Japan, and later in the war Germany.

I am quite aware, Messerschmidt's would lightened and flown into B-17's in a despite bid to disrupt allied bombing runs. The pilots would try to bail out before impact, although sometimes, it didn't quite go as planned.

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Posted by: Cpt Nicholson

Posted by: Kat_Ana
Kamikaze

That was Japan, and later in the war Germany.

It was obviously a joke. If you read my two other strategies or had a sense of humor you might've got it.

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Posted by: Raptorx7
You guys have no idea what your talking about. In some cases human wave tactics were used early on but as they fought and learned they developed tactics.

Operation saturn and Uranus come to mind, the Russians allowed the Germans to become stuck in Stalingrad in grueling urban combat, what the Germans called "Ratenkrieg" or rat war.

Germans were trained for fighting over wide swaths of land and fast attacks not urban slow combat.

When the German 6th army was fighting at Stalingrad the Russians built up on there flanks with massive amounts of troops and armor and surrounded the 6th army cutting it off forever and effectively destroying it.

The Russians were not to be messed with and they deserve to be respected.



this. very much so.

  • 11.27.2012 8:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: Gold Rogue Guy
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well for one I know they did a pincer thingy when defending (close to stalingrad i think). They cut through Romanian soldiers and thus destroyed the axis line that was letting german troops receive reinforcements, ammo, food, etc.
Ye

  • 11.27.2012 8:14 PM PDT

Yeah. They purposely allowed Germans to get deep into Soviet turf to expand German supply lines and then destroyed them which made the remaining German font extremely weaked which gave them victory.

  • 11.27.2012 8:18 PM PDT

~lemurs~

http://dampolitics.blogspot.com/

they had the first jets

  • 11.27.2012 8:20 PM PDT

"I will show you how a true Prussian officer fights!"

"And i will show you where the iron crosses grow..."

- "Cross of Iron"

The Germans created the first jet actually.

The ME-262.
Posted by: lemurs
they had the first jets

  • 11.27.2012 8:21 PM PDT

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