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Subject: Cigarettes, Should They Be Banned?

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Posted by: lethaldonut

Posted by: l Wersonian l

Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
No, it shouldn't matter what an adult wants to put into their own body.

By this logic, should marijuana, cocaine and all the bunch be legal?

These things all impair your ability to function as a human being, and being high might cause damage to yourself or others. Remember that story about a man cutting his face off while high on meth? Smoking doesn't cause that. Drugs that affect the mind are completely different.
Yeah meth is totally something comparable to mushrooms, LSD, Mescaline, and Marijuana. hahahaha... dear lord

  • 11.27.2012 9:21 PM PDT


Posted by: Chuck berry22

Posted by: lethaldonut

Posted by: l Wersonian l

Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
No, it shouldn't matter what an adult wants to put into their own body.

By this logic, should marijuana, cocaine and all the bunch be legal?

These things all impair your ability to function as a human being, and being high might cause damage to yourself or others. Remember that story about a man cutting his face off while high on meth? Smoking doesn't cause that. Drugs that affect the mind are completely different.
Yeah meth is totally something comparable to mushrooms, LSD, Mescaline, and Marijuana. hahahaha... dear lord

Your argument is backed up so well. So unbelievably well. Whereas I try to provide a reasonable solution to the matter, you simply mock me. Put on your cool guy pants, because you are obviously cool.
Allow me to elaborate the effects of meth on the human mind.
EDIT
"Methamphetamine abuse is a grave problem that can lead to serious health conditions including brain damage, memory loss, psychotic-like behavior, heart damage, hepatitis, and HIV transmission," says Dr. Nora D. Volkow, director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse. Just adding in a quote from an expert.

[Edited on 11.27.2012 9:28 PM PST]

  • 11.27.2012 9:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: Chuck berry22
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Posted by: Chuck berry22
You sir don't understand the principals of freedom and have Fascist like qualities to your argument.

You serious?
100%

Alright. -blam!- this thread. I'm out.

  • 11.27.2012 9:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: lethaldonut

Posted by: Chuck berry22

Posted by: lethaldonut

Posted by: l Wersonian l

Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
No, it shouldn't matter what an adult wants to put into their own body.

By this logic, should marijuana, cocaine and all the bunch be legal?

These things all impair your ability to function as a human being, and being high might cause damage to yourself or others. Remember that story about a man cutting his face off while high on meth? Smoking doesn't cause that. Drugs that affect the mind are completely different.
Yeah meth is totally something comparable to mushrooms, LSD, Mescaline, and Marijuana. hahahaha... dear lord

Your argument is backed up so well. So unbelievably well. Whereas I try to provide a reasonable solution to the matter, you simply mock me. Put on your cool guy pants, because you are obviously cool.
ugh you want some links there buddy? You must have no experience with psychedelics or havent seen someone on speed... Or maybe you have because for some reason doctors like to prescribe it to our kids and expect them not to have addictive personalities later on in life.

here you are loads of testimony and information on all said drugs Erowid

and hey man you know why that meth you're talking about even was invented? because junkies couldnt get the clean stuff legally. and heres another example for you on what happens when people in Russia cant get legal heroin... Krokadile
The point is, drugs should be monitored and regulated not controlled by ruthless gangs, cartels, and junkies.

Hence why America has the highest incarceration rate in the world and private prisons have become a profitable industry. Your twisted super hero logic has failed America with ample evidence that the "war on drugs" is failed policy that has added to our debt and put people in jail for victimless crimes.
Not my favorite president, but I believe that Jimmy Carter once said "If the law does more harm to an individual than the drug... then we need to change said law"
Get a grip on reality and stop being a public education drone

[Edited on 11.27.2012 9:44 PM PST]

  • 11.27.2012 9:29 PM PDT
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Without The Flood, I wouldn't know what an opinion is.

In public yes, in private no. Smoked substances are unique from things like alcohol in that everyone around the consumer gets a bit of it too. Do what you want, but don't bug other people with it.

  • 11.27.2012 9:46 PM PDT



Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
No, it shouldn't matter what an adult wants to put into their own body. [/quote]
By this logic, should marijuana, cocaine and all the bunch be legal?[/quote]
These things all impair your ability to function as a human being, and being high might cause damage to yourself or others. Remember that story about a man cutting his face off while high on meth? Smoking doesn't cause that. Drugs that affect the mind are completely different.[/quote]Yeah meth is totally something comparable to mushrooms, LSD, Mescaline, and Marijuana. hahahaha... dear lord[/quote]
Your argument is backed up so well. So unbelievably well. Whereas I try to provide a reasonable solution to the matter, you simply mock me. Put on your cool guy pants, because you are obviously cool.[/quote]ugh you want some links there buddy? You must have no experience with psychedelics or havent seen someone on speed... Or maybe you have because for some reason doctors like to prescribe it to our kids and expect them not to have addictive personalities later on in life.

here you are loads of testimony and information on all said drugs Erowid

and hey man you know why that meth you're talking about even was invented? because junkies couldnt get the clean stuff legally. and heres another example for you on what happens when people in Russia cant get legal heroin... Krokadile
The point is, drugs should be monitored and regulated not controlled by ruthless gangs, cartels, and junkies.

I think you are a bit off. This stuff you are saying is pretty much irrelevant to the original post, which was stating the differences between psychology altering drugs and smoking. My question is...

What are you trying to prove with this post? That the government should regulate illegal drugs? That's bringing in something completely irrelevant to the conversation, and doesn't really help your point besides.

Edit: whoops quote fail

[Edited on 11.27.2012 9:48 PM PST]

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In public areas, yes.

  • 11.27.2012 9:50 PM PDT

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To LethalDonut-
The topic in general was the question of banning cigarettes. You were the one off-topic. I resorted to show you why any bans are irrelevant which ties to you trying state a "difference" between drugs.

[Edited on 11.27.2012 9:53 PM PST]

  • 11.27.2012 9:51 PM PDT


Posted by: Chuck berry22
To LethalDonut-
The topic in general was the question of banning cigarettes. You were the one off-topic. I resorted to show you why any bans are irrelevant which ties to you trying state a "difference" between drugs.

My original reply was to this

By this logic, should marijuana, cocaine and all the bunch be legal?

After I posted something relevant to the convo. Look at the first page of the thread to see my relevance, please.

  • 11.27.2012 9:57 PM PDT

I'm an Anarchist. I don't need a government to be a good person, but I'm glad it's here because some of you clearly do.

35/32 with illegality winning, despite illegality having virtually no voice in this thread.

I don't get it. Unable to support your opinions?

  • 11.27.2012 10:01 PM PDT


Posted by: lethaldonut
If people want to mess up their lungs, let them. But don't smoke around kids or people who don't want it.

  • 11.27.2012 10:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: lethaldonut

Posted by: Chuck berry22
To LethalDonut-
The topic in general was the question of banning cigarettes. You were the one off-topic. I resorted to show you why any bans are irrelevant which ties to you trying state a "difference" between drugs.

My original reply was to this

By this logic, should marijuana, cocaine and all the bunch be legal?

After I posted something relevant to the convo. Look at the first page of the thread to see my relevance, please.
This is becoming redundant... I did read your original postings... My response to all of this was- It doesnt matter what difference the mind altering properties have on the person. Any ban on any drug is stupid. By the way, with enough tolerance anybody can function on their drug of choice.

Once again heres why bans are silly-
ugh you want some links there buddy? You must have no experience with psychedelics or havent seen someone on speed... Or maybe you have because for some reason doctors like to prescribe it to our kids and expect them not to have addictive personalities later on in life.

here you are loads of testimony and information on all said drugs Erowid

and hey man you know why that meth you're talking about even was invented? because junkies couldnt get the clean stuff legally. and heres another example for you on what happens when people in Russia cant get legal heroin... Krokadile
The point is, drugs should be monitored and regulated not controlled by ruthless gangs, cartels, and junkies.

Hence why America has the highest incarceration rate in the world and private prisons have become a profitable industry. Your twisted super hero logic has failed America with ample evidence that the "war on drugs" is failed policy that has added to our debt and put people in jail for victimless crimes.
Not my favorite president, but I believe that Jimmy Carter once said "If the law does more harm to an individual than the drug... then we need to change said law"
Get a grip on reality and stop being a public education drone

  • 11.27.2012 10:03 PM PDT

I know my ways. So just stay back.

Too many people who never even touched a cigarette get cancer from cigarette smoke. Ban them.

  • 11.27.2012 10:05 PM PDT

Life?
I have the internet and Doctor Who; i don't need a life.

they should never have been banned over here.
instead of smokers being inside closed-off rooms they're outside where the smoke can get everywhere and cause the most harm.

  • 11.27.2012 10:07 PM PDT

Glory to Jesus Christ

That would be pretty totalitarian.

  • 11.27.2012 10:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: JacobTheGreat2
Too many people who never even touched a cigarette get cancer from cigarette smoke. Ban them.
Source?
and too many people have died from alcoholic madness without ever even drinking it.

Look, cancer is cancer and there are multiple ways that one can obtain abnormalities in cell growth. You can't go around restricting freedoms because you think one is worse than the other.

imagine what horrors will be discovered after years of GMOs in our food, noise pollution, air pollution, electronic emissions, etc. Cigs are the least of your worries and the world has went from accepting it socially to universally recognizing the health risks. That just doesnt stop folks and neither will your fascist ban.



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Posted by: Acres 057
35/32 with illegality winning, despite illegality having virtually no voice in this thread.

I don't get it. Unable to support your opinions?

More like unwilling to deal with the "one political party that I'm not going to name because I don't wanna risk licking the banhammer" mindset dominating this thread.

  • 11.27.2012 10:12 PM PDT

Ban it in public (outdoors and in) or at least have designated smoking areas instead of designated "no smoking" areas.

There is nothing wrong with an individual wanting to poison their body at their own free will. However, exposing others to the deadly chemicals and risk of things like cancer is a hazard to society.

Why should I risk cancer because some guy wants a smoke at a bus stop?

[Edited on 11.27.2012 10:18 PM PST]

  • 11.27.2012 10:17 PM PDT

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Posted by: Methew
Posted by: Acres 057
35/32 with illegality winning, despite illegality having virtually no voice in this thread.

I don't get it. Unable to support your opinions?

More like unwilling to deal with the "one political party that I'm not going to name because I don't wanna risk licking the banhammer" mindset dominating this thread.
Yeah I forgot, having viable, constructive sociological-political debate is forbidden even in the off-topic section of this mindless forum that resorts to one liners and 4chan degenerate memes.
Of course the argument is take your discussion somewhere else if you want to talk about important things. lol so sad too bad. Theres also the group that immediately start flaming each other because they can't handle an opinion opposite to where thing sit politically.

the reason the "ban cigs" vote won is because its being fueled by public education and mob mentality. Thats the reason it has no support in words in this thread. The people really dont know why they are banning it besides "its bad"

Just like in early American pop culture people really didnt know why they smoked except "its cool"

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  • 11.27.2012 10:18 PM PDT
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Doesn't matter if they should be banned, they won't be any time soon, way too much money to be made.

  • 11.27.2012 10:20 PM PDT
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Only thing what bugs me is all the cigarette butts around all around, most people just throw them out the window or on the ground and don't care about it.

  • 11.27.2012 10:21 PM PDT

Why restrict more freedom?




OT: I don't smoke

  • 11.27.2012 10:22 PM PDT

With the amount of adults Ive seen WANT to quit but don't possess the willpower I say ban it.

  • 11.27.2012 10:22 PM PDT

I wonder what the economic effects of smoking (and later on, cancer) are on businesses and governments.

  • 11.27.2012 10:24 PM PDT